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Xchris176 · Senior Member

RE: Vinny is a bad union prez, the contract is lukewarm, this is something that could have been signed off on years ago

sector7 · Senior Member

I looked back at old emails. PBA contract ratified by 4/24/23, the Union emailed their members on 4/27/23 with a contract update including the expected pay dates. Vinny can you find out the dates for us or should we call Kaz?

3testwonder · Senior Member

Its been 5 days since ratification. Why are there no updates on payouts.

VetteCop · Senior Member

Because it's the Sba

NYM · Senior Member

Lmao!! If you are upset about the contract already, wait until you see how small your retro is when you finally get it, your going to be even more upset then.

LGB2024 · Veteran Member

Still no pay dates from our lovely union. It was a historic contract with zero follow up emails.

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

Still celebrating their pension bump. Stand by for your cost of living adjustment, I mean raise.

PoDoNothing · Member

What are the odds well get our raise before that golf outing.

Nyc507 · Veteran Member

I heard pay raise 5/23. First check with raise is 6/6.
Again rumors , no clue if thats accurate.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

OPA gets up to 90 days, and you are given time to make changes to 457 contributions.

Last contract was approved on 1/19 and raises took effect on 3/4 check.

-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Tuesday 13th of May 2025 12:29:54 AM

Nyc507 · Veteran Member

NauseousPBBN wrote:
OPA gets up to 90 days, and you are given time to make changes to 457 contributions.
Last contract was approved on 1/19 and raises took effect on 3/4 check.

-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Tuesday 13th of May 2025 12:29:54 AM

Good to know. Sgt class went in on 2/7. Did that group fall under old or new contract ? Since technically the raise was in affect after 2/7?

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

New contract

A10shun · Senior Member

People are saying raise should be on next check

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

This union really cant be bothered, shoot. Week and a half now. PBA knew their dates within three days.

GangGreenMets · Senior Member

This is just a reminder to not vote for Vinny or anybody associated with his administration when the election comes. Their incompetence is on full display.

-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Wednesday 14th of May 2025 01:39:49 PM

DeptIsaJoke · Veteran Member

You truly are a moron if you vote for vinny.

Jets5646 · Newbie

But who is running against them?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Jets5646 wrote:
But who is running against them?

The precinct greeter has a better chance at winning the SBA election.

Asmfish · Veteran Member

like WhatsApp chats or anybody with actual information

UncleC69 · Senior Member

Theres a few people that are planning a challenge. The reasons are layered.
Truthfully, the vote needs to get passed the delegate body. If that occurs, this unelected board is done. The problem is the delegates and directors.

Ten of them need to step up.

June of 2026

LGB2024 · Veteran Member

Guys, you honestly have to respect Vinnys trolling game at this point. Theres still more golf outing tickets left.

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

If Vinny gave us an idea of when the raise is kicking in and date on retro, maybe we could consider the golf outing.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?

Asmfish · Veteran Member

3testwonder wrote:
Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?

I heard the SBA board gets their raises this week, and the rest of us have to wait till July lol

(Trigger warning for those without a sense of humor this is satire for those who were not aware)

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

Next SBA meeting is on the 22nd. I hope we hear something then.

Asmfish · Veteran Member

3testwonder wrote:
Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?

I just looked at the PBAs email from their last contact. They send an email on 04/24/2023 that the contact was ratified and then on 04/27/2023 send an email that they where informed by the city the exact date that the pay raise and retro would be seen. it was around the full 90 days of 07/21/2023 (Im not going to count exactly). So. Its safe to say the SBA is fully aware of when we will see the raise and retro and more worried about emailing about a golf outing than their membership. Dont forget about this historical contract with no givebacks except for the give back of washup time and the give back of no raise for longevity of any sergeant with less then 10 years.

Side note Im not here for a dispute about If you think people with under 10 years deserve a raise. The fact is by keeping the longevity the same for The 5 year bump for the whole contact and not seeing a raise like the rest of the longevity, it is a giveback that they failed to mention.

-- Edited by Asmfish on Monday 19th of May 2025 05:44:43 PM

El Norte · Senior Member

Does anyone know when the updated amount for your final number with the raises will appear on the pension statement? Is it as soon as the raise kicks in? Or does it take longer.

VetteCop · Senior Member

heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week

LGB2024 · Veteran Member

I heard Vinny could care less about his constituents. Make sure you sign up for the Golf outing.

NYM · Senior Member

VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week

I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

NYM wrote:
VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.

Im more interested in knowing when this raise will take effect on our checks. Im one of those 96k base victims so the retro can come whenever.

sector7 · Senior Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
NYM wrote:
VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.
Im more interested in knowing when this raise will take effect on our checks. Im one of those 96k base victims so the retro can come whenever.

Same, when are we going to see the new salary.

Our leadership is terrible and what is worse is that they have not realized that communication is all we have been asking through this whole process

DeptIsaJoke · Veteran Member

I say again. If you vote for Vinny, you deserve every crappy contract and crappy representation on important issues.

-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Tuesday 20th of May 2025 12:22:27 PM

warnedANDadmonished · Member

No one would be confused about anything of we were simply allowed to read the contract. Anyone know why is not readily available for viewing?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

In case anyone is wondering. The pay raise has not went into effect on this weeks check.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Breaking News!

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WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

A+ trolling from this union, I gotta say.

Addy1 · Veteran Member

I just checked my ESS employment verification letter, and it states the new increased salary of $134,096, so its quite possible that we will see the raise if not this check next check.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

My ESS verification says the old amount still

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

You will not see it that soon. They are going to give you time to adjust your 457k contribution and those changes takes 2 checks minimum. So getting the raise is at minimum July.

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

The raise and the retro are 2 different things. 2 different checks. You might both be right.

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

Indeed. Been through about 5 contracts and never seen the raise go into effect more than 2 or 3 pay periods after ratification. Retro months later on account of 457 adjustments. I have never heard of effective dates being released more than two weeks after the fact though so its a brave new world where anythings possible. See you at the golf outing, quack.

Asmfish · Veteran Member

WartimeConsigliere wrote:
Indeed. Been through about 5 contracts and never seen the raise go into effect more than 2 or 3 pay periods after ratification. Retro months later on account of 457 adjustments. I have never heard of effective dates being released more than two weeks after the fact though so its a brave new world where anythings possible. See you at the golf outing, quack.

The most recent PBA contract the raise and retro came together and 3 months later

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

10-4, got promoted before that one. If thats our most recent example, then thats what we have to go on. Wonderful

Brooklynsfinest711 · Veteran Member

Does anyone know How far back are the sgts getting retro with the new contract?

Asmfish · Veteran Member

Brooklynsfinest711 wrote:
Does anyone know How far back are the sgts getting retro with the new contract?

From the date that you are out of contract to the day Before you go into the new contract

NYFINEST25 · Veteran Member

Looks like 8/1 for retro and 7/3 for pay

Brooklynsfinest711 · Veteran Member

What month and year were the sgts out of contract ?

-- Edited by Brooklynsfinest711 on Wednesday 21st of May 2025 10:47:00 PM

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

Ayyyy its not gonna be on the holiday check! Thanks notmydelegate!

Asmfish · Veteran Member

NYFINEST25 wrote:
Looks like 8/1 for retro and 7/3 for pay

Where are you hearing that from? would b nice if the SBA could let its membership know something rather then keeping everything like its some big secrete and we should be grateful that they exist as our all knowing overlords. They can only hide behind we were asked to keep negotiations secrets for so long. But then again they wont even show anyone the actual contract so what does that tell you.

Hey maybe These guys dont know how to use email.