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TenFour16 · Guru

Vinny is a bad union prez, the contract is lukewarm, this is something that could have been signed off on years ago

FelonyOutstretched · Veteran Member

Anyone have any insight as to why/how having 10+ years on the job loses you $171 in service differential?

-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Monday 2nd of June 2025 11:08:32 PM

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

FelonyOutstretched wrote:
Anyone have any insight as to why/how having 10+ years on the job loses you $171 in service differential?

-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Monday 2nd of June 2025 11:08:32 PM

Looks like someone screwed it up. They still have the wrong date up top too.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

Need to have 5 yrs in rank so 10+ line is first you can get the differential. That 1378 should be 0.

DeptIsaJoke · Veteran Member

Read your emails. Seems like the SBA is too busy committing financial crimes again.

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

The old guard need to leave. Especially anyone who was associated with Mullins.

No1isbetter · Guru

Still nothing on when raises kick in.

LGB2024 · Veteran Member

Wow, Im done. This union is officially DOA.

nychelper · Veteran Member

They are quick to clear their names but horrible at giving us contract info smh!!!!!

UncleC69 · Senior Member

The entire board needs to go. They need new blood. No one with ties to mullin. Shame on the directors and delegates for allowing this

PoDoNothing · Member

Shame on the SBA, corrupt to the core, vote these clowns out

Asmfish · Veteran Member

PoDoNothing wrote:
In 4 more days we will be in the 1st check in July pay period. How late are they going to let us know about the retro?

The day after we get it. They will have a delegate meeting to let them know we should all be happy we got a contract, and excepting to be able to just adjust out deferred comp is us being greedy.

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

E-mail dropped. 08/01 for retro and pay raise*.

*=may not apply to those jumping to top pay?

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

I guess they cracked the code/formula!

NYM · Senior Member

No one should be suprised I told everyone they were going to take until August to pay us. I thought it would be the August 15 check, I was 2 weeks off. I dont know where the rumours of June or July came from. That was unrealistic.

TransitCop · Senior Member

Time to change you deferred comp %

SaltyCrimeGuy · Senior Member

Did everyone read the email? Anyone at 97k might still have to wait for their retro and top pay wage increase. Only general wage increases and retro will be paid Aug 1

No1isbetter · Guru

This is pathetic.

SBA MIA · Veteran Member

If we are not at top pay and receive the retro on Aug 1 Im going to lose it. This union is so weak, its embarrassing at this point

SaltyCrimeGuy · Senior Member

So in reality the city could drag this on till December and blame the formula issue and we have 0 recourse. SBA still has them by the balls.

No1isbetter · Guru

All while new SGTs are STILLLL making more than us.

22 and a half and out · Member

Whens everyone changing their def comp contributions ?

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

You can go right now and change it for the August 1 pay date specifically.

UncleC69 · Senior Member

How does yet another SBA board member go down for fraud?
Is there a carbon monoxide leak in that office that makes everyone who sits there a criminal adjacent perp?

These mooks just cant help themselves from wetting the beak.

June 2026

Brutus Hamhock · Veteran Member

In the beginning was the word, and the word was good. Then the dinosaurs came. Then Marty Daltons mom discovered her home brewed colt 45 recipe, but she overindulged and let out a mighty belch, and the dinosaurs were wiped out by a blast of her hot breath. Then Petey acquired a taste for dolphin meat, and all manner of horrors ensued.

SaltyCrimeGuy · Senior Member

Anyone have any new info on when we can expect our top pay raises for the 97k group?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have any new info on when we can expect our top pay raises for the 97k group?

That 90 day rule affects all of us so it has to be resolved by August 5th ?

SaltyCrimeGuy · Senior Member

When I called the SBA they told me they have 180 days or the city has to start paying interest

Futureauxiliary · Guru

SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
When I called the SBA they told me they have 180 days or the city has to start paying interest

6 months to come up with a formula smh

No1isbetter · Guru

We all got played. Absolute fools we are. They agreed to the contract while working with the city to scam us out of our raises for as long as possible. SBA is on board with it & dont give a fuck. We are in the most technological era of our lifetime & all of a sudden, with advanced AI out there, we can figure out how to process our fucking checks to reflect a pay raise in the system? SM MF D.

SBA MIA · Veteran Member

How has the SBA not confirmed the pay raise and retro of Aug 1 for us senior non top pay Sgts. I dont want to up the deferred comp if we are still making a cadet salary

Brutus Hamhock · Veteran Member

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. But give sweet Pete a golf club on a field full of geese, and boy oh boy.

Tier3scum · Senior Member

Check emails. SBA sent out cut off date instructions for deferred comp

100questions · Senior Member

SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have any new info on when we can expect our top pay raises for the 97k group?

The raise doesnt go into effect until 8/1. Wont show until you get your 8/15 check.

100questions · Senior Member

What an absolute crock of shit. So the union basically lied and said we will be receiving retro on our new top pay once the raise is in effect, which is shortly after the contract is ratified. So the contract is overwhelmingly ratified in May, and wont be in effect until August? Which means you wont receive any retro for the top pay that youre not at until 8/1. What a joke.

speedyx · Member

100questions wrote:
SaltyCrimeGuy wrote:
Anyone have any new info on when we can expect our top pay raises for the 97k group?
The raise doesnt go into effect until 8/1. Wont show until you get your 8/15 check.

I think you need to reread the email, everything happens 8/1/25. The only reason they mention the 8/15/25 check is so if you want to lower your deffered comp % back down.

UncleC69 · Senior Member

When the board reads this in the morning, please consider some mayoral endorsements. Since were already almost out of contract, I dont think Mr. Mamdani will be willing to negotiate in good faith.

Fraternally,

The Uncle

turk_the_finest · Member

Im afraid they will be picnickin::

The SBA office will close at 1:00 pm on Thursday June 26, and will also be closed all day Friday, June 27, so we can complete the move back to our fully renovated headquarters at 35 Worth Street in Manhattan.

You will be able to contact the board and staff by phone and email during these two days.

Also, dont forget that the SBA Family Picnic is being held from 1 pm to 5 pm on Friday, June 27, at Nansen Park in Staten Island. We hope to see you there.

fully renovated headquarters if you must know.

Poor_Pigeon · Newbie

Dear Uncle, after reading all these adverse Twitter reactions , and as a New York City Resident born and raisedI am under the firm belief we truly are in trouble.

Leftbehind802 · Veteran Member

UncleC69 wrote:
When the board reads this in the morning, please consider some mayoral endorsements. Since were already almost out of contract, I dont think Mr. Mamdani will be willing to negotiate in good faith.

Fraternally,

The Uncle

Imagine Vinny rolling the dice (which he 100% would have done) and wait for the election, thinking he would get a better deal.

3testwonder · Senior Member

Sorry for the disappointing promotions this round guys. Lets us look forward to the next

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Its all good new fiscal year next month large amounts of Lts retiring. We should be good going forward hopefully!

SBA MIA · Veteran Member

Over 50 LTs on terminal and climbing

No1isbetter · Guru

Happy 4th of July! Only 4 more weeks until the suffering ends!

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Anyone know how the new federal law on tax free overtime will affect the retro check?

WartimeConsigliere · Senior Member

It wont up front, check will be taxed to death. But when you do your taxes, youll be able to write off 12.5K worth of overtime if youre single, 25K if youre a joint filer. Lots of wrinkles here and there- phaseouts over certain income levels- but between the OT write off and the SALT cap being lifted to 40K, we should be doing better come tax season- some more than others.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

yes, but does the fact that the ot was earned before the bill was signed into law be a loophole for the government?

SturdyHairBag · Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
yes, but does the fact that the ot was earned before the bill was signed into law be a loophole for the government?

Nothing else depends on when it was earned. It all depends on when it is paid in the tax world. Retro OT should probably be subject to the new OT tax deductions since it's being paid in 2025, just like it's subject to 2025 tax rates, etc.

No1isbetter · Guru

You guys nailed it. But remember, as single filer, deductions decrease after $150k up to $275k. Married filers $300k out to $550k. I believe this may benefit married filers a bit more unless youre married to another cop or FD or Sanitation. For every $1000 you make above $150k your deduction goes down $100. So for instance if you made $200k single filer, your new deduction is $7,500.

NauseousPBBN · Senior Member

Also its a deduction not a credit, so you don't pay the taxes owed on that 12,500. (2-3kish back in your pocket)