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Other than the 13 directors and board members there cant be a single Sgt thats happy with whats going on. This needs to be done now. The entire board needs to go- no one from the current board can/should replace Vinny. If you think Vinny is incompetent, just wait till you have a chat with the VP. Dont blow this off.

To challenge the board, you need the support of 10 delegates. To run for a board position, you must be a delegate and have served in that role for at least a year. After Mullins, the board went unopposed because no director or delegate saw it as an issue. The current cycle ends in June 2026. While a challenge is unlikely, someone could step up and contest the board however this needs to start now.

Not true, but indeed, most people here are on their way out via promotion or retirement or desperate for news, or some combination. Election eligibility information is good to have out there and googleable when the only other source is the very union that needs to be shaken up.

Your delegate may or may not be a good person who takes their job seriously- but they need to be held to account and willing to stand up to the board if things are bad off.

Anyone participating in this thread or lurking for info needs to know that the only way to have an election in the first place is to have a delegate willing to run in office by THIS summer- which means starting the process of having elections for delegates NOW.

Allegedly there is an emergency SBA board meeting tomorrow at noon.

My delegate 

I hope it leads to some good news.

Fedup69 wrote:

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Why is my delegate saying its fake news. Whos the troll

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 Probably a new delegate 

VetteCop wrote:

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There is a meeting tomorrow. Confirmed with a high level rep. Unknown what it's for but we can all hope for the best.

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 Maybe one of the trustees/higher level reps are aging out and they plan on grandfathering someone else in. As always, we get zero info.

Be advised there is an sba directors meeting today. This was last minute. Meeting at 12

No1isbetter wrote:

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So from someone within PA, I heard the reason for the no SGT classes is because theyre ahead of the targeted amount of promotions at this point in time. Not staffing or contract. That the realistic targeted cut-off of the list is approx 3,000.

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 interesting. Did they say when they will pick back up with the promotions  ?

Waiting for these Hershey park ticket discounts to be announced!

The steak is probably extra rare today. These guys really need to retire asap

This was a useless meeting Im hearing. Nothing important

I truly believe the only ones trolling are those already at top pay, and it would be best if they just kept their mouths shut, because they dont understand truly what some ppl are going thru right now. This isnt a fkn joke. Putting out misinformation on shit like this is stupid. Doesnt make you look any cooler to seem like you know the inside scoop. 1200+ are hoping today a contract was agreed to and put forward. 

From my delegate:

Some notes from our meeting:

We do not have a contract agreement yet. They're still harping on us doing 12 hr tours for free. We did submit to the city a study that shows how bad 12 hour tours are for the health, welfare, and safety of cops who do them. I can't repeat anything the mediator has told us but this is the only bump left in the road. We're not subjecting sgts to a summer of 12s, for free, only to have the whole 12 hour tour program die afterwards. 

If we had taken the initial deal the city offered us a year and half ago, we'd all be stuck making much less then we are now. We're almost to making everyone whole with every Sgt being brought to top pay. A lot of sgts will be brought to top pay much sooner than they normally would have been. 

Tier 3. Tier 3 is an entry level position and the PBA created it. There are bills in Albany to help fix some of that tier and they're being considered. 

The retention bill is still in Albany and we are hopeful that it'll be included in the next state budget. 

Have your bwc on for signing off on vouchers. The video should account for all of the property listed on the invoice.

If you log in and watch a BWC. You are responsible for everything in that video as if you were physically there. Merely pulling the video up, puts you on the hook for it. Take necessary action if you see any issues. Sgts are getting smoked for watching videos and not taking action when the video is bad. And by smoked, I mean, going to the Advocate Office. Also, cases of early deactivation and late activation are going to the Advocate Office. 

Ensure you're scratching cops sitting on perps in the hospital early in the tour. The reasons should be obvious.

When scratching a cop, the Sgt should be actually reviewing the book. Downtown is seeing scratches in books that are far from accurate. Sgts are taking hits for this.

Our current PC is a disciplinarian like I've never seen. She makes Kelly look like a pushover. Everything is the Matrix or Charges.

It's time to get back to old school supervision because that's the environment we live in. You can be their boss or their friend. You can't be both. That cop you think of as a friend will throw you under the Q54 in a heartbeat. I am not advocating for hurting cops. I am advocating for looking out for yourselves and your fellow sgts.

No contract

This is the best we are gonna get.either we sign it or we negotiate with cuomo next year12 hour tours is a pilot program and will only affect a minimal amount of sergeants

These dopes are concerned about losing money from 12hr tours (that probably wont happen) but not concerned that were losing money right now. These guys are dumb AF.

Sounds like long story short, good luck 97k Sgt's paying your bills, see you in 2026.

Maybe we should call the SBA Office as a Daily News reporter looking for an update.

Only way to get info these days. Absolute BS!

The 97k sergeants waiting for this contract and EVERY SINGLE PASSING DAY getting screwed for basically nothing. Imagine being a 4 year sergeant at 97k being "made" 2 months before getting to top pay because a handful of old timers did not like 12 hour tours. I know we all signed the contract and agreed to the terms, but the city loophole should be considered just that, a loophole. There was an administrative loophole, aka a mistake on your part for getting to this point, you pay us and start anew. And guess what? The city actually agreed on this most important part of this contract! But lo and behold... it is our own union decided to screw us at this point. Enjoy your $50 union dues while we lose an average of $150 every single working day, not to even mention the other stuff like pension contributions. This is dereliction of duty (in administrative sense) at this point. I would love to see Mr. Vallelong stand in front of those sergeants, many of whom are likely struggling financially due to current economic climate, and tell them "you are not going to get this big raise that will fix many of your problems because we do not like this one thing in the contract talks." Insanity.

Please share where, Ill gladly shove my foot up his ass. 

From the SBA Constitution, whatever this is worth:

https://sbanypd.nyc/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/sba-constitution2015.pdf

ARTICLE XIII CHARGES

Section 1 Procedure

Charges may be preferred by any member against any other member for a violation of the principles as set forth in the Constitution & By-Laws of the Association. They shall be specific, written, signed and submitted to the President. The President shall furnish a copy to the charged member and present the charges at the next regular meeting of the Association.

Section 2 Censure-Expulsion

After due consideration of charges made against a member at a regular meeting and with the affirmation of a two-thirds vote of the delegates present, the charged member may be censured and/or expelled from the Association. Those members who are expelled shall forfeit all rights, benefits, and privileges of membership.

I guess Vinny has ultimate control in this process anyways but sending info along