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35amonth · Senior Member

List coming out

TenFour16 · Guru

Nypd2532 wrote:
Was told the 850ish # was 70 and up. Which is feasible with the amount of alleged throwouts/double answers. Highest I heard was 7.

Again, there is absolutely no way that even with getting 7 points (which appears to be the highest number of points picked up) that this list hits 850.

That would mean There were 850 people who RAW SCORE had between a 100 and a 63. Do we really believe that many scored in this range ?

With an exam like this, I sure dont.

El Norte · Senior Member

A10shun wrote:
So i picked up 4. Im at a 66. Am I included in that 850?

This is what sucks about all this secrecy, the list is there how not putting it out would affect the future of the world is beyond me. Weve waited this long we could have avoided four pages of bickering Lol.

22andOut · Veteran Member

I picked up 7 (allegedly) to put me in the 80s. I dont care if anyone leapfrogs if theres a curve, hope as many as possible get promoted. I can wait a month or two if someone jumps me

Blue71898 · Veteran Member

It's a list doesn't mean it's complete. It will be released when it's released. I get your anxious but this is only going on because someone can't keep quite when there suppose to and let the process play out. Everyone gets a little taste and all hell breaks loose. I'm guilty also but whatever list is out there clearly isn't anything official yet so hasn't been released.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Blue71898 wrote:
It's a list doesn't mean it's complete. It will be released when it's released. I get your anxious but this is only going on because someone can't keep quite when there suppose to and let the process play out. Everyone gets a little taste and all hell breaks loose. I'm guilty also but whatever list is out there clearly isn't anything official yet so hasn't been released.

A large portion of us were on the brink of passing by a few points. If i had a 70 or above I would have not been worrying too much about this secret list. On the contrary since a lot of us were 61-69 I believe we were the most anxious in finding out if we actually made the 70 mark with the throwouts.

Nypd2532 · Veteran Member

TenFour16 wrote:
Nypd2532 wrote:
Was told the 850ish # was 70 and up. Which is feasible with the amount of alleged throwouts/double answers. Highest I heard was 7.
Again, there is absolutely no way that even with getting 7 points (which appears to be the highest number of points picked up) that this list hits 850.

That would mean There were 850 people who RAW SCORE had between a 100 and a 63. Do we really believe that many scored in this range ?

With an exam like this, I sure dont.

I definitely think thats possible after throwouts/doubles. There are probably 100s more between a 61 and a 69. If they do scale this exam, which presumably they will, it will likely be close to 1500.

A10shun · Senior Member

Hopefully brother. Drpapi lionel confirm anything?

A10shun · Senior Member

Im reading cpt and sgt forum. The sgt list was pretty much doubled after curve

socialwall1 · Member

More than that. Some got 40s and then with some good TOJ passed individuals that failed.

Futureauxiliary · Guru

socialwall1 wrote:
More than that. Some got 40s and then with some good TOJ passed individuals that failed.

Stop spreading lies. No one in the 40s passed in the last Sgt exam. I personally know someone who scored 54 raw and ended up a few names away from the last list#.

If you scored a 40 you would literally need 21 throwouts, highly unlikely to pick up 21 questions.

-- Edited by Futureauxiliary on Saturday 18th of November 2023 11:59:40 PM

A10shun · Senior Member

So this list of 850 is including those with 61 and above?

El Norte · Senior Member

A10shun wrote:
So this list of 850 is including those with 61 and above?

I wish someone can answer this, not all of us got to know if we picked up any points And how this list was implemented.

TransitCop · Senior Member

This is a list of everyone who took the test with their score adjusted for any throw out or doubles that they picked up. Final list is not this.

A10shun · Senior Member

Whats next step? It goes back to dcas?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

CONGRATULATIONS to ALL getting promoted on Tuesday

El Norte · Senior Member

TransitCop wrote:
This is a list of everyone who took the test with their score adjusted for any throw out or doubles that they picked up. Final list is not this.

Do why is this list 850ish

Member nypd · Member

DRPapi1983 wrote:
CONGRATULATIONS to ALL getting promoted on Tuesday

What does this promotion have to do with Lieutenant forum? Theres no list..

TransitCop · Senior Member

El Norte wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
This is a list of everyone who took the test with their score adjusted for any throw out or doubles that they picked up. Final list is not this.
Do why is this list 850ish

Its not 850 I dont know why anyone is saying 850

TenFour16 · Guru

People dont listen. The list has 2400 people. Its a list of EVERY EXAM TAKER with adjusted scores. The 850 number is made up.

El Norte · Senior Member

TenFour16 wrote:
People dont listen. The list has 2400 people. Its a list of EVERY EXAM TAKER with adjusted scores. The 850 number is made up.

Ive heard from different people that the 850ish is legit.

RachDawg · Senior Member

Maybe 850 that are at 70 and over at the moment? Pending any funny dcas business?im guessing someone counted and got 850ish over who are 70 and over

Beta86 · Veteran Member

RachDawg wrote:
Maybe 850 that are at 70 and over at the moment? Pending any funny dcas business?im guessing someone counted and got 850ish over who are 70 and over

Then if you apply the curve 1600 list

A10shun · Senior Member

850 is nothing

Futureauxiliary · Guru

We shall soon find out.The academy is done with the list and should be in puzzle palace Monday.

A10shun · Senior Member

Does it then go to dcas again?

Futureauxiliary · Guru

A10shun wrote:
Does it then go to dcas again?

Im assuming 1pp adds medals and time in rank points and probably goes back to DCAS.

I would think DCAS adds the rumored curve points.

No1isbetter · Guru

One person says the list at PA is 850. Another person says they sent a list of 2400. Get your stories straight before you guys come in here and BS everyone.

Member nypd · Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
We shall soon find out.The academy is done with the list and should be in puzzle palace Monday.

How do you know the PA is done? My JST and medals are still up on NYCAPS. Nothing will be done on weekend and probably next week either. At least on DCAS side for sure

No1isbetter · Guru

If the list at PA is 850, than thats the list. If the list is 2400, then itll be adjusted accordingly to the curve. So lets get our facts straight here, because Im pretty sick of the assumptions & opinions.

A10shun · Senior Member

They are probably going to add medals and seniority points to everyone with a 61 and above

Futureauxiliary · Guru

Member nypd wrote:
Futureauxiliary wrote:
We shall soon find out.The academy is done with the list and should be in puzzle palace Monday.
How do you know the PA is done? My JST and medals are still up on NYCAPS. Nothing will be done on weekend and probably next week either. At least on DCAS side for sure

Was told by someone who works in academy. You think that list of 850 or 2400 all have Jst points ?

TenFour16 · Guru

There is no list with just 850 people on it.

& by 2400 i didnt mean its the amount of people on it that passed. The list people were getting their scores from was a list that had EVERY TEST TAKER. That is a fact.

The 850 number is something someone made up and it spread.

-- Edited by TenFour16 on Sunday 19th of November 2023 03:42:08 AM

-- Edited by TenFour16 on Sunday 19th of November 2023 03:46:11 AM

A10shun · Senior Member

Previous exams like cpt and sgt same thing. Raw list was given back to dcas and then the final adjusted list came out with hundreds of more people on it. For sgt it was thousands. And this curve was also utilized in the 2017 sgt exam. So its been used for numerous exams.

Member nypd · Member

Futureauxiliary wrote:
Member nypd wrote:
Futureauxiliary wrote:
We shall soon find out.The academy is done with the list and should be in puzzle palace Monday.
How do you know the PA is done? My JST and medals are still up on NYCAPS. Nothing will be done on weekend and probably next week either. At least on DCAS side for sure
Was told by someone who works in academy. You think that list of 850 or 2400 all have Jst points ?

Not sure what you asking here. Do I think that everyone has extra points on record? No , I dont think so.

El Norte · Senior Member

850ish is what Ive been told from reliable person, hence my concern I dont know if I picked up points and would feel better if I knew where I stand. Is this 850ish the people that will hit 70 with the throw outs and then curve thats why I ask.

No1isbetter · Guru

If this list at 850 scrapes ppl in the high 50s then Im content with it.

Member nypd · Member

850 must be the list of ppl who hit 70for PA to apply points. As stated on exam notification letter, JSt, longevity and medals will only be added to passing scores.correct me if Im wrong

A10shun · Senior Member

But a 61 is the new 70 right?

No1isbetter · Guru

So 850 ppl got 61 after throw outs + curve? What Im saying is, if this is the #, then so be it. Im not complaining about it. Because it includes throw outs & curve. Now, I also understand that # is low, and I am not trying to take away hope for the most others, for it to be 500+ more, to glet more ppl on this list, all Im saying is, please can we get the information of whatever people CLAIMED to have see at PA to be legit

PS - I really hate having to constantly fix typos on this damn forum.

-- Edited by No1isbetter on Sunday 19th of November 2023 04:06:22 AM

Member nypd · Member

A10shun wrote:
But a 61 is the new 70 right?

If so, and if medals and toj points are being added by the PA, the curve has been already applied by DCAS. The list of people getting these points must be 70 and above

-- Edited by Member nypd on Sunday 19th of November 2023 04:12:16 AM

35amonth · Senior Member

I picked up 5 points- and also have 5 points seniority. Im curious if the 5 points I picked up was throwouts, seniority, or the curve. I originally had a 70. I might be in the high 80s if all 3 are applied.

No1isbetter · Guru

35amonth wrote:
I picked up 5 points- and also have 5 points seniority. Im curious if the 5 points I picked up was throwouts, seniority, or the curve. I originally had a 70. I might be in the high 80s if all 3 are applied.

Respectfully, no one can answer your question accurately, but if youre saying you got a 70, picked up 5 on throw outs, your score will be 75 plus curve (5.78) plus seniority(5). You can figure that out on your own. Sounds like 85.78 to me.

35amonth · Senior Member

No1isbetter wrote:
35amonth wrote:
I picked up 5 points- and also have 5 points seniority. Im curious if the 5 points I picked up was throwouts, seniority, or the curve. I originally had a 70. I might be in the high 80s if all 3 are applied.
Respectfully, no one can answer your question accurately, but if youre saying you got a 70, picked up 5 on throw outs, your score will be 75 plus curve (5.78) plus seniority(5). You can figure that out on your own. Sounds like 85.78 to me.

So its definitely not the curve- who applies the seniority (DCAS or Dept) assuming I picked up 5 throwouts?

-- Edited by 35amonth on Sunday 19th of November 2023 04:33:14 AM

A10shun · Senior Member

Who applies the curve, the job or dcas?

socialwall1 · Member

Dcas apparently because its a competitive examination.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Lets take a sec and digest all this because this thread is becoming a rambling, foaming at the mouth, mess.

If the list is 850 with throwouts, then there is no curve. Its just not possible to give back so many points and then curve it and still have a 30% pass rate. Plus- think of it from the jobs perspective, they dont give a shit about a fair test or who deserves the promotion, they need to fill seats and thats all. 850 puts them in a tight spot since the Lt list has been well over 1,000 for the past few times it was published, and the new Capt and Sgt exams are ridiculously huge as well.

If the list is 2400, this means that pretty much everyone picked up the extra points from the throwouts and the curve from prior exams was applied. It means that people with as low as a 41 passed, and that the ~100 or so who scored below 41 arent lucky and shouldnt be ranking up anyway. Wasn't there something like 2,500 total test takers? This is almost as ridiculous as the 850 sized list, but at least it is backed up by the idea that the job needs bodies.

Whether you agree there will be 2,400 Lt spots is a moot point. The job is hedging its bets on the future and it would be more likely for them to cut a list than run out and have to redo another slow and costly test.

Member nypd · Member

those of you who found out that you picked up points, has your DCAS dashboard score changed?

A10shun · Senior Member

Nope

El Norte · Senior Member

If originally 300 or so people passed another number that seems legit so far, then adding another 550 names may not have been an easy task in itself consider the extremely high number of failures. We confirmed this by the number of passers in our own commands, the 850 doesnt sound too far fetched if you think about it. The only question is did they factor in this curve already to come up with the number or is it being applied to this 850.