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TenFour16 · Guru

100 For Jan ?

TransitCop · Senior Member

I have a friend whos 1010s and he didnt get mentoring email so unless all previous Passovers are going in I dont see this happening

gmen18 · Senior Member

we need people who got the emails to state where there list # is around

Caralho · Senior Member

TransitCop wrote:
I have a friend whos 1010s and he didnt get mentoring email so unless all previous Passovers are going in I dont see this happening

That doesnt mean anything. Your friend needs to be cleared. Doesnt mean he doesnt have a case on them. U dont know.

making dcas great again · Senior Member

I don't think it's a 100 people for mentoring. We need people who actually received an email to post there list number

Putt4dough · Veteran Member

If it helps, myself and a friend are in the very low 1000s and neither of us got an email or any indication

narco26 · Senior Member

False info list will slow down a lot of Sgts are waiting for the 3 percent and test will be announced soon. We are all going to get same deal as Lts and captains.

Taketheday · Guru

narco26 wrote:
False info list will slow down a lot of Sgts are waiting for the 3 percent and test will be announced soon. We are all going to get same deal as Lts and captains.

I agree list hasn't cracked 1000 yet and its about to be 2 years old next month and now a test is around the corner, its getting cut if your over 2000 ur not making it start studying for 2021. not trying to be negative but gotta look at the numbers, if they are averaging 500 per year then list is lucky to get to 2000.

TransitCop · Senior Member

No one expected this to go over 2k mark and if they did they were delusional.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

still waiting on that huge boost in promotions.. any day now

cop · Senior Member

I think its to early to say still, but even with a possible new test there are things to remember. One they pushed ours back two it took forever for list to come out and 3 the list is good for four years from date they promote off it. There is nothing to prevent them from extending current list either. With all that said there are many ready to pack their bags and retire this year and next and my opinion it will go a long way. I personally think it will get too 75 as a score point.

PD2FD · Guru

cop wrote:
I think its to early to say still, but even with a possible new test there are things to remember. One they pushed ours back two it took forever for list to come out and 3 the list is good for four years from date they promote off it. There is nothing to prevent them from extending current list either. With all that said there are many ready to pack their bags and retire this year and next and my opinion it will go a long way. I personally think it will get too 75 as a score point.

With the contracts being settled and due to expire in 2021, I foresee a lot of people sticking around at least until 2021. After 2021, the mass exodus will commence.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

PD2FD wrote:
cop wrote:
I think its to early to say still, but even with a possible new test there are things to remember. One they pushed ours back two it took forever for list to come out and 3 the list is good for four years from date they promote off it. There is nothing to prevent them from extending current list either. With all that said there are many ready to pack their bags and retire this year and next and my opinion it will go a long way. I personally think it will get too 75 as a score point.
With the contracts being settled and due to expire in 2021, I foresee a lot of people sticking around at least until 2021. After 2021, the mass exodus will commence.

That was just LT and CPT, not SGTs. Also that statement makes no sense. Bc come 2021 and they get a new Contract then your logic is that theyll stay until the end of that one. People dont retire based on when contracts end. (Its actually beneficial to retire when out of a contract) they retire at the 0 and 5 anniversaries or at 27. Those are the big ones. And then theres the few age outs. We get a lot of those where I am with bosses.

brooklynbacon · Guru

cop wrote:
I think its to early to say still, but even with a possible new test there are things to remember. One they pushed ours back two it took forever for list to come out and 3 the list is good for four years from date they promote off it. There is nothing to prevent them from extending current list either. With all that said there are many ready to pack their bags and retire this year and next and my opinion it will go a long way. I personally think it will get too 75 as a score point.

Afaik a list has never been extended. Even when the economy tanked and promotions froze half a year and academy classes had 250 cops they didnt extend lists and people died on them.

Hoping for an extension is a pipe dream.

gmen18 · Senior Member

thats false, last test there were people being promoted after the test expiration date. entire list was made

Taketheday · Guru

gmen18 wrote:
thats false, last test there were people being promoted after the test expiration date. entire list was made

Yea well that list didn't have 2700 names on it...

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

The last list went active at the end of 2015 and the last guys ( hold overs) got promoted with the first class of our list. No one was getting promoted after it expired

brooklynbacon · Guru

gmen18 wrote:
thats false, last test there were people being promoted after the test expiration date. entire list was made

Come back in two years and people will be talking about writing a petition to the pc and about getting together to hire a lawyer to stop the list from dying. Mark my words.

gmen18 · Senior Member

im in no way saying the entire list will be made. but im stating that the last 2 lists havnt been cut short.

mike16 · Senior Member

the two previous lists were not as big as this one. 2011 list had 1663 people and were promoted in 3 and 2/1 yrs with no mentoring. 2013 had less than 1000.

-- Edited by mike16 on Sunday 22nd of December 2019 06:21:10 AM

Putt4dough · Veteran Member

Couldnt agree more about the lawsuits . Absolutely will be the case if that happens. And btw, people who got promoted after the list expired - many of them were passed over and had decent list numbers. One example of someone in that case, had an unfounded open IAB complaint that was dragging on with no substance. Eventually they got made when the list was exhausted - not extended

-- Edited by Putt4dough on Sunday 22nd of December 2019 06:43:44 AM

-- Edited by Putt4dough on Sunday 22nd of December 2019 06:45:07 AM

Taketheday · Guru

Putt4dough wrote:
Couldnt agree more about the lawsuits . Absolutely will be the case if that happens. And btw, people who got promoted after the list expired - many of them were passed over and had decent list numbers. One example of someone in that case, had an unfounded open IAB complaint that was dragging on with no substance. Eventually they got made when the list was exhausted - not extended

-- Edited by Putt4dough on Sunday 22nd of December 2019 06:43:44 AM

-- Edited by Putt4dough on Sunday 22nd of December 2019 06:45:07 AM
Lawsuits for what? What could anyone possibly sue for? They curved it and threw out questions to make it as fair as humanly possible specifically so noone could sue so no way in hell a lawsuit is gonna keep this list from getting cut

Caralho · Senior Member

Enough with This rhetoric!! Whats the amount of people going into mentoring???!!!

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

Caralho wrote:
Enough with This rhetoric!! Whats the amount of people going into mentoring???!!!

Snowflakes who dont get what they want think they can sue for it

yougonow · Guru

Why snowflakes? Everyone does it.

MBREEZE · Senior Member

List expires in 2022. we are just going into 2020. Stop crying and just wait and see. If you don't get made and you really want to get promoted, just study again. This "the sky is falling" crap is childish and annoying. Grow up. You guys are Cops for God's sake.

yougonow · Guru

A good indicator that vacancies are high are with 75-85 BMOC classes. That means vacancies peaked beyond 200. 50s are just scraping the 100 count. February/March will tell all.

bluefinest29 · Veteran Member

Any updates ? On mentoring ?

BROOKLYN77 · Senior Member

The only update is that an email went out, not sure the exact number or when mentoring starts.

Putt4dough · Veteran Member

Friday before mentoring is supposed to start this Monday. Emails made it to the high 900s but sounds like didnt quite make it to 1000. Anyone hear a confirmed high 900 number?

motifer · Veteran Member

39 going in Monday for mentoring. Finest is out.

Dahomeless1 · Senior Member

Where is the finest message?

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

that doesnt seem like a lot

Caralho · Senior Member

List is for sure getting cut! 39 thats nothing!

Elbatigol9 · Senior Member

39

100questions · Veteran Member

39 for mentoring doesnt necessarily mean 39 for BMOC. The only cops to participate in Mentoring are ones who are not on Patrol, which includes people in DB, Administrative positions in Patrol houses, NCOs, etc.

GeoGo · Senior Member

100questions wrote:
39 for mentoring doesnt necessarily mean 39 for BMOC. The only cops to participate in Mentoring are ones who are not on Patrol, which includes people in DB, Administrative positions in Patrol houses, NCOs, etc.

......Wrong, everyone goes to Mentoring pal !!

100questions · Veteran Member

GeoGo wrote:
100questions wrote:
39 for mentoring doesnt necessarily mean 39 for BMOC. The only cops to participate in Mentoring are ones who are not on Patrol, which includes people in DB, Administrative positions in Patrol houses, NCOs, etc.
......Wrong, everyone goes to Mentoring pal !!

I know specifically of at least 3 people who did not have to go to Mentoring and were included in the following BMOC class.

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

100questions sounds like hes right. I know theres a 2 year rule, in that if youre off patrol for more than 2 years you have to do mentoring. Plus - why would they transfer people already on patrol to go to a patrol command?

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

100questions wrote:
GeoGo wrote:
100questions wrote:
39 for mentoring doesnt necessarily mean 39 for BMOC. The only cops to participate in Mentoring are ones who are not on Patrol, which includes people in DB, Administrative positions in Patrol houses, NCOs, etc.
......Wrong, everyone goes to Mentoring pal !!
I know specifically of at least 3 people who did not have to go to Mentoring and were included in the following BMOC class.

You guys are both wrong and both right... its true that not everyone goes to mentoring. but like 90% have to go. If 39 are going to mentoring then the bmoc will probably around 45

GeoGo · Senior Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
100questions sounds like hes right. I know theres a 2 year rule, in that if youre off patrol for more than 2 years you have to do mentoring. Plus - why would they transfer people already on patrol to go to a patrol command?

Put it like this. Everyone is supposed to go to mentoring, those 1 or 2 people who dont go to mentoring wasn't officially cleared by Uniform Promotion Unit but finally get the green light before bmoc starts.

But it has nothing to do with whether ur in patrol, DB, admin cop, etc....

good luck everyone.

rookiebit_h · Guru

so much for that 100

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

can someone sign up for the lieutenants test if they are still on the list for sgt?

Bklynsouth3020 · Senior Member

fiftyfouredp wrote:
can someone sign up for the lieutenants test if they are still on the list for sgt?

Yes you can. Guys I worked with who were on the 2013 list were still POs and detectives but signed up for the LTs test so that as soon as they got promoted they could take the LTs test they had in 2017. The 2103 test was exhausted just in time for everyone on that list to take the LTs test, unless you were jammed up

fiftyfouredp · Senior Member

Nice. I heard about instances like that, but I can imagine DCAS being a PITA to deal with.

3rdtimetheCharm · Senior Member

Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
fiftyfouredp wrote:
can someone sign up for the lieutenants test if they are still on the list for sgt?
Yes you can. Guys I worked with who were on the 2013 list were still POs and detectives but signed up for the LTs test so that as soon as they got promoted they could take the LTs test they had in 2017. The 2103 test was exhausted just in time for everyone on that list to take the LTs test, unless you were jammed up

People were also allowed to sign up after the deadline if they were in BMOC. The Department also in the past promoted an entire class up front so they could take the LT exam

cop · Senior Member

Hearing 50-75 possible mentoring feb 10th. Unconfirmed

Putt4dough · Veteran Member

If the posted promotion schedule is accurate, that would make sense and set up a 3 week mentoring if bmoc is scheduled to begin the Monday following promotions

TransitCop · Senior Member

People got email already asking for their command choices for next round of mentoring.

rookiebit_h · Guru

TransitCop wrote:
People got email already asking for their command choices for next round of mentoring.

how many recipient?