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I am aware that detectives go straight to top pay upon promotion to sergeant, for the reason that a detective would make less if they went to sergeant step 1. However, where is it written that a promoted employee can't make less?
Is this in a contract somewhere or the state/city civil service laws? Can anyone knowledgeable about this topic advise? I have attempted to do research on this but can't seem to find anything in writing.
Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.
Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.
Because if this is a rule or a law, it must have a source. Assuming you are a cop/sgt/lt/etc you should have at least some interest in the law and a large interest in pay and salary issues.
Yah thats it.... hahahahaha
What does this mean?
Anyone with knowledge of labor issues/ civil service law on the air?
I am aware that detectives go straight to top pay upon promotion to sergeant, for the reason that a detective would make less if they went to sergeant step 1. However, where is it written that a promoted employee can't make less?
Is this in a contract somewhere or the state/city civil service laws? Can anyone knowledgeable about this topic advise? I have attempted to do research on this but can't seem to find anything in writing.
Then why was I posting in the protest thread back in Feb/March?
Use some of the detective skills that apparently got you a shield in narco. What a joke.
If you don't know the answer to my question just move on. It's a pretty reasonable question about how the city and police department determines salary for new promotees. We are on a promotion board right?
Do you think that posting on a public board makes you a cop? When you created your account with rising star, what credentials were used by the site owner to verify your identity? Did you scan your department ID? Did they call your command? I think not. & yes, i AM a detective and my innate detective skills tells me that your are NOT real police. Real cops get on this site to seek answers and guidance on the possible outcomes that this promotional exam will have on their professional & personal lifes. Instead you waste our time posting a frivolous topic. & if you are a cop, god-bless your sqd. You sir are simply a hater. Goodday!
Do you think that posting on a public board makes you a cop? When you created your account with rising star, what credentials were used by the site owner to verify your identity? Did you scan your department ID? Did they call your command? I think not. & yes, i AM a detective and my innate detective skills tells me that your are NOT real police. Real cops get on this site to seek answers and guidance on the possible outcomes that this promotional exam will have on their professional & personal lifes. Instead you waste our time posting a frivolous topic. & if you are a cop, god-bless your sqd. You sir are simply a hater. Goodday!
Sorry buddy, but you are way off.
How the step progression works when we get promoted is very relevant to a lot of our lives. Trying to figure out the rules regarding this could be very important to many people, considering some are skipping steps. I am asking a question about where this rule is located so I could find out more info. I am not sure why asking this question would get me on anyone's bad side. I looked at the SBA and previous DEA contracts but didn't see any provision there.
In case you didn't know, many detectives were recently promoted before they had 18 months on track because the new detective contract added more steps to get to top pay so they were promoted early to be under the old contract. I am wondering how this will affect those getting their shield under the new contract.
This shouldn't be a controversial question, just looking for answers on contract issues.
Its not written anywhere except the Contracts of the two unions on the pay scale.
By the definition of a promotion you cant take a pay cut on base pay. Maybe on OT.
This is only an issue because the first three steps in the Sgts Contract isnt a big jump in pay unlike the DEA contract. Look up the contracts and that will answer your question.
Its not written anywhere except the Contracts of the two unions on the pay scale.
By the definition of a promotion you cant take a pay cut on base pay. Maybe on OT.
This is only an issue because the first three steps in the Sgts Contract isnt a big jump in pay unlike the DEA contract. Look up the contracts and that will answer your question.
Thank you. Finally a non-hostile answer. I couldn't find the new detective pay scale on the office of labor relations site. I'm wondering how the new contract will affect the pay jump.
Here ya go. As for the rule of not being able to take a paycut from a promotion, I've always heard it was an obscure rule in the City Charter. Which, in case you don't know, is a giant patrol-guide like book written in gibberish. If you Google it it'll pop up but I think it's only an older, non-updated version.
So does anyone know if this is still in affect? You hear so many different things. Ive heard you dont got to top pay anymore and you go to the next step which would still be a raise but not straight to top pay. Ive also heard that the sba is looking to do away with this from an sba delegate. Does anyone know for sure or have any better information or maybe has gone through this recently themselves?
You go straight to top pay. 4th step sergeant pay is $90,685 and 5th step(top pay) is $109,360. 3rd grade detective and detective specialist pay is $93,497.
Hey does the new DEA contract which went into effect on Dec 17 2018 make any difference with Det to Sgt straight to top pay?
I am looking at getting made to Detective in Dec 2019, would it be wise to defer at this point??????? I am hearing all kinds of rumors from people in my command and other DB units. Thanks
Hey does the new DEA contract which went into effect on Dec 17 2018 make any difference with Det to Sgt straight to top pay? I am looking at getting made to Detective in Dec 2019, would it be wise to defer at this point??????? I am hearing all kinds of rumors from people in my command and other DB units. Thanks
You will not go directly to top pay Sgt, unless youre at top pay (3rd grade) detective. You will definitely skip a few Sgt pay steps if you defer the Sgt promotion, which will definitely be worth it in the long run.
-- Edited by DeezNutz on Monday 24th of December 2018 05:48:10 PM
-- Edited by DeezNutz on Monday 24th of December 2018 05:49:19 PM
Thats where I get confused as well. I was under the impression if you get promoted from PO to sgt you go to step 3 because the starting pay for a sgt not being as much as a top pay cop with the nco raise. But starting pay for a detective 3rd grade I believe is 93. Step 4 for a sgt is 90 and change. The next step is top pay and thats 109. So I would think the only way this straight to top pay issue would be resolved is if the sgt contract made step 4 just above starting pay for a detective. You cant be promoted and take a pay cut and they arent making a step 4 1/2 just to save money. Can anyone post the sgt and detective pay scale? I dont have the pictures anymore. Ive heard the rumors too but as of now with the pay steps if I remember correctly it would make sense that the top pay thing is still in affect. Merry Christmas everyone
Anyone who got promoted under the above DEA contract would sure go to top pay Sgt. Unfortunately, the new DEA contract took effect in January of this year.
All I can say is do it if it works out that way, but only after doing your research. My biggest regret was not deferring when I was on track. Id the have saved 3 years of waiting for top pay. In hindsight, not much would have changed but the extra $$$ for that time would have been nice, and hell, I always wanted to be a Detective (I was close). The only answers as to the what and how you should accept is from the Labor Relations office at 1PP. It may not even make sense based on your current status, contract changes, etc. For me, I never really did my research and I knew that I had studied hard and the sergeant rank was being dangled over my head and I went for it without even thinking twice. At the very least, just do your research and take the answers that come right from the source, not some guy in your command (as many do). Good luck!
-- Edited by 63ASAP on Tuesday 25th of December 2018 11:37:51 PM
-- Edited by 63ASAP on Wednesday 26th of December 2018 12:00:42 AM
Your delegate would be a good person to talk to. At the very least they should be able to tell you who knows. Like ASAP said labor relations. That pay scale is the only one I have because thats the one I got promoted off of
Your delegate would be a good person to talk to. At the very least they should be able to tell you who knows. Like ASAP said labor relations. That pay scale is the only one I have because thats the one I got promoted off of
I was promoted under that old contract also. One thing I can say is that the new DEA contract really sucks. Best to contact Labor Relations as mentioned and let us know.
