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Scandal made NY1!!


Please post link so we all can watch the segment on the lieutenant exam debacle 



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No offense, but this forum has died. No one really cares anymore.

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Just saw it aired, looks like they'll show it throughout the night. Wow pretty thorough report too. An anonymous sergeant voicing our complaints , pretty much putting it all out there. Nice job.

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www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/criminal-justice/2016/03/9/nypd-investigates-whether-some-sergeants-cheated-on-promotions-exam.html

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NYPD Investigates Whether Some Sergeants Cheated on Promotions Exam
By Dean Meminger
Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:54 PM EST


The NYPD is investigating whether some of its own sergeants cheated on a promotions exam. One upset officer spoke with NY1's Dean Meminger.
Police sergeants are up in arms, saying some of their colleagues cheated when taking the promotions exam to move up to lieutenant.
Sergeant: I believe there were plenty of cheaters on that exam.
Meminger: And what do you feel about that?
Sergeant: I feel terrible. I feel cheated myself.
The cheating allegedly occurred on a make-up test last year. Sergeants say many who took the makeup knew the answers because an answer key had been posted online by someone who apparently had taken the exam earlier in the year.

One sergeant who failed the test spoke to NY1, asking to remain anonymous. The sergeant says some officers skipped the first exam, knowing the makeup would have the same questions.
"Many people, they know the game," the sergeant said. "If they call out sick or if they, what we call line of duty, they get injured on the job prior to the exam, that is their excuse for taking a make-up exam."
Twenty-four-hundred sergeants took the first exam given by DCAS, the Department of Citywide Administrative Services, and 164 passed, about 6.8 percent. But of the 80 sergeants who took the makeup, 48 percent passed.

The Internal Affairs Bureau has begun investigating. The NYPD says it is aware of issues that have been raised concerning the 2015 lieutenant promotional make-up exam. The Department says it is reviewing those issues with DCAS.
The cheating is one of several alleged problems. Some sergeants have discussed suing the city, saying several exam questions were not relevant to being a lieutenant. They want a review board to look at the exam's fairness.
"Because I'll tell you, Dean, there were questions that had no answers, multiple answers or wasn't even given to me to study for," the sergeant said.

A high-ranking police official says that this an extremely unusual situation and that changes must be made, including moving the test day from Saturdays, when some officers say they have military duty or observe the Sabbath. Officials believe such a change would reduce the numbers taking the makeup.


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Huyova wrote:

No offense, but this forum has died. No one really cares anymore.


I care a lot actually.



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"A high-ranking police official says that this an extremely unusual situation and that changes must be made, including moving the test day from Saturdays, when some officers say they have military duty or observe the Sabbath. Officials believe such a change would reduce the numbers taking the makeup."

Very nice, hopefully a change for future promotional exams. Has to be a weekday to prevent both the Sabbath scam and the reservist scam, then we would only have to worry about fake line of duty injuries.

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That is a good start!

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It's amazing that the news can't even get this segment correct.  That answer key did not help the makeup test takers.   That segment could of been much better.  



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Hopefully DCAS and the department will change the way future exams are given. As for the current scammers/cheaters, they will still get promoted unless some of them actually admits that they cheated...which I doubt very much...I say just promote everyone on this list and give us a fair exam soon instead of wasting our precious time (another couple of years perhaps) before another lieutenant's exam is given.

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It's amazing that the news can't even get this segment correct.  That answer key did not help the makeup test takers.   That segment could of been much better.  


That's true, without knowing the exact questions from either the test site or the protest session that key would be practically useless.

Still, the media is never 100% accurate, and it won't mean anything to the public whether the cheating occurred through that answer key (it didn't) or how it really happened (people secretly getting actual word-for-word questions from others).



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Hopefully DCAS and the department will change the way future exams are given. As for the current scammers/cheaters, they will still get promoted unless some of them actually admits that they cheated...which I doubt very much...I say just promote everyone on this list and give us a fair exam soon instead of wasting our precious time (another couple of years perhaps) before another lieutenant's exam is given.


I heard that some have admitted to cheating. When you get GO'ed and there's physical evidence mounting against you it's better to admit you cheated and lose out on a possible promotion than to lose your job.



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I don't think that they would be interested in promoting everyone. That would mean people with 30s would be Lts.

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He said on the list, not everyone who took it, hehe.



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You're right Six. I read it wrong :)

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sixmonthwonder wrote:
W_T_F_ wrote:

Hopefully DCAS and the department will change the way future exams are given. As for the current scammers/cheaters, they will still get promoted unless some of them actually admits that they cheated...which I doubt very much...I say just promote everyone on this list and give us a fair exam soon instead of wasting our precious time (another couple of years perhaps) before another lieutenant's exam is given.


I heard that some have admitted to cheating. When you get GO'ed and there's physical evidence mounting against you it's better to admit you cheated and lose out on a possible promotion than to lose your job.


 Lmao, WTF you talking about no one admitted to cheating... This is how rumors get out, I failed the exam too but Jesus dude you need Eat your gun already, all you doing is talking **** and not helping the cause 



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sixmonthwonder wrote:
W_T_F_ wrote:

Hopefully DCAS and the department will change the way future exams are given. As for the current scammers/cheaters, they will still get promoted unless some of them actually admits that they cheated...which I doubt very much...I say just promote everyone on this list and give us a fair exam soon instead of wasting our precious time (another couple of years perhaps) before another lieutenant's exam is given.


I heard that some have admitted to cheating. When you get GO'ed and there's physical evidence mounting against you it's better to admit you cheated and lose out on a possible promotion than to lose your job.


 Lmao, WTF you talking about no one admitted to cheating... This is how rumors get out, I failed the exam too but Jesus dude you need Eat your gun already, all you doing is talking **** and not helping the cause 


You think someone being GO'ed with a Facebook screenshot of them asking people for answers to the test (that the whole Department has now seen) is going to lie and get fired?

Once you're caught, you're caught. 



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sixmonthwonder wrote:
Jraming26 wrote:
sixmonthwonder wrote:
W_T_F_ wrote:

Hopefully DCAS and the department will change the way future exams are given. As for the current scammers/cheaters, they will still get promoted unless some of them actually admits that they cheated...which I doubt very much...I say just promote everyone on this list and give us a fair exam soon instead of wasting our precious time (another couple of years perhaps) before another lieutenant's exam is given.


I heard that some have admitted to cheating. When you get GO'ed and there's physical evidence mounting against you it's better to admit you cheated and lose out on a possible promotion than to lose your job.


 Lmao, WTF you talking about no one admitted to cheating... This is how rumors get out, I failed the exam too but Jesus dude you need Eat your gun already, all you doing is talking **** and not helping the cause 


You think someone being GO'ed with a Facebook screenshot of them asking people for answers to the test (that the whole Department has now seen) is going to lie and get fired?

Once you're caught, you're caught. 


 Didnt hear about this. If this is true, I'm glad the dept is actually making an effort to look into what happened. 



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So requesting answers on Facebook is what ? It puzzles me how much can you really get from FB, that's also funny too I would laugh my balls off .......... Only on this job 4 real

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