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-- Edited by sharpie973 on Monday 23rd of November 2015 12:17:47 PM

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Pichardo briefly taught Elite class. Funny guy and seemed very knowledgable and down to Earth

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One Police Plaza

The NYPD's Tricky Ethnic Politics

July 20, 2015

The transfer of Dep. Insp. Fausto Pichardo to head a Bronx precinct just 10 months after he was assigned to the NYPDs Public Information office as a liaison to the citys Hispanic media underscores that ethnic politics can be tricky no less so than in the nations largest police department.

Pichardos transfer was significant enough to the Hispanic community that the Spanish-language newspaper El Diario noted it, as did the citys highest-elected Hispanic official, City Council Speaker Melissa Mark-Viverito. A member of her staff called Commissioner Bill Bratton, but Mark-Viveritos spokesman, declining to elaborate, said that she and Bratton did not speak directly about the matter.

They never had a Hispanic at that level in DCPI before, said a former top Hispanic officer, referring to the Public Information office.

Said an officer close to Pichardo: He was introduced to every Spanish editorial board. He was the go-to guy for everything Latino.

Complicating the issue is that Pichardos Hispanic supporters attribute his transfer to DCPIs black deputy chief, Kim Royster.

The NYPD line is that Pichardo, who is of Dominican descent and now the commanding officer of the 43rd Precinct in the Bronx, asked out of DCPI so that he would have a better shot at promotion to full Inspector.

The unspoken reason, says a cop close to Pichardo, is that he felt thwarted by Royster in his role as the Latino liaison.

No one will admit it, said says the cop, but everyone knew Fausto was having issues with her. No one helped him because of her political connections.

In the first of Mayor Bill de Blasios police-related missteps, it was Royster whom he called to arrange the release of a political supporter, Bishop Orlando Findlayter of Brooklyn. The bishop had been arrested for two outstanding warrants in February 2014.

Asked whether she had precipitated Pichardos transfer, Royster wrote in an email: I have no idea what you are talking about. Executive transfers and promotions happen all the time in this department. I strongly suggest you do not rely on hearsay or third party information.

DCPIs deputy commissioner, Steve Davis, did not return an email seeking comment.

The Pichardo-Royster contretemps appears to be part of a below-the-radar tension between Hispanics and black officers at the NYPD. The percentage of Hispanic officers has risen to nearly 30 percent of the force in the last generation (the second-largest ethnic group after Italians), while the percentage of black officers has remained at about 15 percent in the same time period.

A common complaint of Hispanic officers is that their numbers in the executive ranks above captain which come about through discretionary promotions are far smaller than their numbers in the department.

In addition, some Hispanic officers remain troubled by what one described as Brattons broken promises regarding First Dep. Rafael Pineiro, formerly the departments highest-ranking Hispanic officer. Despite Brattons statement that Pineiro would remain first deputy as long as he was commissioner, Bratton dismissed him 10 months later.

Yet the reaction to his dismissal was muted in contrast to the furor following the resignation of the departments highest-ranking black officer, Chief of Department Philip Banks, after Bratton had promoted him to succeed Pineiro.

Of Pichardo, an Hispanic officer close to him noted: Had his and Roysters positions been reversed, I can guarantee they would have transferred Fausto. Blacks get what they want in this department. Hispanics dont.

 

 


 

 

 Wow this sounds very bigoted towards all other race, colors, creeds, etc.

I thought this Department, City, State and Country was moving towards equality.

It sounds as if just because one ethnic group is in a certain rank or position, that it should entitle others in in the same group to "special" treatment?  That's pretty sad. 

It also sounds like what i refer to as a promoting a "novelty".  Why does an administration have to place a specific ethnic group in a position?   It's like having some kind of exotic pet like a breed of dog.  Some folks adopt a breed of dog that is out of the norm to be differentiated from others or for a conversation piece.  Not for the breed per say.  People are like, "My pet is a Chamerain Apoolosian Uoy Fodder with a mix of Micronesean Huonoy."  Instead of a normal person say, "my pet is a Golden Retreiver" or "a labrador".   Here boy!   Here's a doggy treat!   Woof!

And why do certain ethnic groups have to beat it to death the ethnicity that a member in said ethnic group is appointed to a high position or rank on this job?  Is a promotion or appointment the ONLY things in certain ethnicities that they have to hoot, holler, throw a parade and scream that they are soooo proud to be of said ethnic group be a member was politically placed in said position?  Wow.  

The job is not putting people in deserving positions for merit, but to appease certain "groups".    It is very sad that people don't earn their position but want the world by not working for it.   If a person, regardless of race, color, creed, etc, is clearly qualified, then good for them.  Well deserved.

 

 



-- Edited by Boogie Knight on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 03:37:50 AM



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-- Edited by Boogie Knight on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 03:48:35 AM

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Nothing new here!!!

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The problem is that discretionary promotions are not fair. Sgt, Lt, Capt promotion is determined by a test and a list but why?? Do you think if Lt was or Capt was discretionary there would be as much diversity in the ranks. Don't be naive, the department is doing better but still has some way to go. If I was a 3 or 4 star chief I might also promote a friend or acquaintance since there is no real procedure in place. So minority's use whatever hook they can to make it past Captain. I can't say it's right or wrong cause how the heck do you make it... All other things being Equal.



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The problem is that discretionary promotions are not fair. Sgt, Lt, Capt promotion is determined by a test and a list but why?? Do you think if Lt was or Capt was discretionary there would be rras much diversity in the ranks. Don't be naive, the department is doing better but still has some way to go. If I was a 3 or 4 star chief I might also promote a friend or acquaintance since there is no real procedure in place. So minority's use whatever hook they can to make it past Captain. I can't say it's right or wrong cause how the heck do you make it... All other things being Equal.


 I really respect your response.

But it is biased when a person in a high rank brings along his/her friends.   It is usually within their own ethnicity, and not for earning a spot.



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I agree and that's been happening forever... I remember many "oh he's friends with Espo" wink wink... And we all just oh ok it is what it is. It's been the way and I would argue it still is the way. Right or wrong it's how the upper ranks move sometimes. 



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jeez people....it's how the world works! As much as it blows if you're not in the "in" club, you would do the same if you were given an opportunity to pick your team.

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So me being a white male should demand or sue to get what i want.  

 I thought all these civil rights and equal rights lawsuits were for equality and to change "how the world works" for good things to happen for deserving people.    I guess i was wrong.

 



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Everything would be fair in my opinion if they had tests all the way up to 3 star chief. Commissioner picks the 4 star. As it is now all you need is the right connections. Its not equal to anyone out of the boys club loop. Regardless of race, creed. However I am happy that we atleast have it up to captaIn. Some departments it's all discretionary.



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