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ondeeair2321 · Guru

Lets stop the wishful thinking or speculations--NO BS Throwout Doubles

ondeeair2321 · Guru

i have been debating this at work with some of my fellow failures and they are writing novels on all of these. i still believe that 59 & 61 are jacked----but the assassins on here shoot me down. i too want 17 & 18 tossed due t the OO debacle---but they werent for capt exam---why us?

Su Madre 24 · Guru

I think 10 is strongly leaning towards a double. Pm me if you want to know why.

If you know the rationale as to why 1 is a double. Pm me the details

tweezy · Senior Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
ok. i see even tho i have achieved GURU status here, i have much resistance from the peanut gallery. yes---some of these are reaches. but, i feel some have to be validated. what are ur no frills no BS opinions. im saying this:
1--absolute double
6--absolute throwout
7--absolute throwout
18--throwout and not due to OO. its due to the stem of question
45--absolute double
54--im staying firm. this was speculation in the relatonship
89--throwout
97--absolute double
106--absloute throwout
115--double

yes---some of the others---reaches. i dont believe the ops orders are tosses. if they are---well there is ur list. but i feel they ll uphold these. but these listed above i cant see them not being validated. no, some of these i dont have. and yes---i have scanned some of you other non-gurus to get my opinion and speculations. i would be suprised if these arent the majority of throwout and doubles, i really would. no one has given me info on this as no one has that now. what is your opinion non-guru type beings?

79 is very likely going to get thrown out too, why is everyone ignoring this? if you can prove why this question won't get thrown out PM me

also 115 is more likely to get thrown out than a double answer...what would the double answer even be? a/b?

ondeeair2321 · Guru

yeah 115 could totally go that way. you coud draw so many conclusions as to who that dude is. just wasnt specified. could be a task force guy for all we know.

Suckerpunched · Veteran Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
ok. i see even tho i have achieved GURU status here, i have much resistance from the peanut gallery. yes---some of these are reaches. but, i feel some have to be validated. what are ur no frills no BS opinions. im saying this:
1--absolute double
6--absolute throwout
7--absolute throwout
18--throwout and not due to OO. its due to the stem of question
45--absolute double
54--im staying firm. this was speculation in the relatonship
89--throwout
97--absolute double
106--absloute throwout
115--double

yes---some of the others---reaches. i dont believe the ops orders are tosses. if they are---well there is ur list. but i feel they ll uphold these. but these listed above i cant see them not being validated. no, some of these i dont have. and yes---i have scanned some of you other non-gurus to get my opinion and speculations. i would be suprised if these arent the majority of throwout and doubles, i really would. no one has given me info on this as no one has that now. what is your opinion non-guru type beings?

Guru=No Life

Iliketurtles · Veteran Member

No one else thinks #35 is a double?

NYC Devil Dog · Member

Iliketurtles wrote:
No one else thinks #35 is a double?

35 is a throwout and 36 is a double. At least that is how I prosted them.

LTTestfrhell2015 · Newbie

Both definitely are doubles and #36 is the same mistake they made on the 2011 test

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

ondeeair2321 wrote:
ok. i see even tho i have achieved GURU status here, i have much resistance from the peanut gallery. yes---some of these are reaches. but, i feel some have to be validated. what are ur no frills no BS opinions. im saying this:
1--absolute double
6--absolute throwout
7--absolute throwout
18--throwout and not due to OO. its due to the stem of question
45--absolute double
54--im staying firm. this was speculation in the relatonship
89--throwout
97--absolute double
106--absloute throwout
115--double

yes---some of the others---reaches. i dont believe the ops orders are tosses. if they are---well there is ur list. but i feel they ll uphold these. but these listed above i cant see them not being validated. no, some of these i dont have. and yes---i have scanned some of you other non-gurus to get my opinion and speculations. i would be suprised if these arent the majority of throwout and doubles, i really would. no one has given me info on this as no one has that now. what is your opinion non-guru type beings?

10 is a double also.

Bklyn net · Senior Member

A /b ?

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

Bklyn net wrote:
A /b ?

Yes. B should've been the correct answer given the stem of the question, so this will either be a double (A/B) or a throwout.

sgt2be · Guru

115 I don't believe is a double....the entry was not correct and I believe was off by one word

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sgt2be wrote:
115 I don't believe is a double....the entry was not correct and I believe was off by one word

Then it will be thrown out because they never tell you in the stem of the question who that actor is. We cannot assume, we need to be given facts and answer the questions via the fact pattern.

Doggieloverwoof · Guru

Non guru beings..... lmfao

NYC Devil Dog · Member

Can anyone PM me 115? I got that wrong and would like to submit a protest for it, if at all possible.

-- Edited by NYC Devil Dog on Friday 22nd of May 2015 11:48:26 AM

Axel Foley08 · Member

23 anyone ??? I think this is def a bad question

sgt2be · Guru

you guys assume too much about DCAS...i get it...115 never told you..i agree..but you are looking too much into the question. Come on, even on test day i knew they were trying to say that actor was the D/O..stop the nonsense...if you are pinning your hopes on those inconsistencies i think you are in for a rude awakening.

SonsOfXavier1997 · Senior Member

115 will be a double. I can feel it in my pluuuuuuums sgt2be.

IShredMajors · Senior Member

In order to successfully protest a question, you have to explain why your answer is BETTER or AS GOOD AS their answer. You will not be able to protest something based on what is stated in the stem. Successful protests are made based on scrutinizing the answer choices, not the question. This has been pointed out numerous times on here.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

yes, the good as or better than theirs is true. but, if the stem and the question were so poorly written or written incorrectly----you couldnt have possibly come to an answer choice. and that is the cause for a throwout. happened many a times on 2011. it wasnt just the answer choices jacked that a question got a double-triple-or tossed.

Su Madre 24 · Guru

Tavares just got back to me and gave me #97. What's the double here? What other answer choice are you guys claiming

sixmonthwonder · Guru

I protested 45 as a throw out, not a double.

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

sgt2be wrote:
you guys assume too much about DCAS...i get it...115 never told you..i agree..but you are looking too much into the question. Come on, even on test day i knew they were trying to say that actor was the D/O..stop the nonsense...if you are pinning your hopes on those inconsistencies i think you are in for a rude awakening.

Next thing you know sgt2be will be telling us this was a fair exam. Lol

DETSGT · Guru

sixmonthwonder wrote:
I protested 45 as a throw out, not a double.

Same here

Su Madre 24 · Guru

In the last thread someone pointed out that in #54 the ages aren't stated. That could really make this a complete throw out.

WHAT

AN

ABORTION

Team J · Senior Member

sgt2be wrote:
115 I don't believe is a double....the entry was not correct and I believe was off by one word

I agree. I read this question carefully and the answer for choice A does not match the patrol guide. It is in fact off by one word. I got this one wrong as well so I was hoping for A to be correct as well . However it doesn't look that way .

-- Edited by Team J on Friday 22nd of May 2015 02:48:23 PM

sgt2be · Guru

I had a different answer for 115 and it was correct...but it was wrong procedure and they locked you into one specific procedure...dirty I tell you :)

sharpie973 · Veteran Member

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-- Edited by sharpie973 on Thursday 28th of May 2015 01:31:59 PM

UC5673 · Veteran Member

Sgt are you referring to answer "D"... For 115?

ondeeair2321 · Guru

115 double is A. spent a lot of time on that one too. only other possible. only other possible for 97 is d. and i dont even have that one

ondeeair2321 · Guru

for 1 only other possible is B and 45 only other possible is A--another i dont have but looked at

HardExam · Senior Member

Lol.. So much for this thread.. People just reaching for the stars with some questions.. I think 115 will either stand or be a throwout. Answer A, which I put as well could not be a double answer considering on word was wrong.. No matter what, it was a petty question that was bullsh*t.. I hope throwout but that depends who is on the panel.. Do you have a LT on the panel who is pro cop or a ****in* alien who wants to screw people over..

ondeeair2321 · Guru

reaching for stars???? u think 1 wont be a double? 6, 7, 10, 45, 89 not a throwout? think again Hard Exam

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Su Madre 24 wrote:
In the last thread someone pointed out that in #54 the ages aren't stated. That could really make this a complete throw out.

WHAT

AN

ABORTION

That would make it a double answer with A/D.

HardExam · Senior Member

No I'm not referring to those questions in addition to 54 and 106.. 106 is 100% a throwout.. I'm talking about people complaining about 35,23, Etc.. People should be using their time wisely to be mailing in thoughtful and accurate mail in protests instead of just stapling in notice of examination and saying "I would have studied OPs if I knew.. And I agree 18 should be tossed based on stem of question not because of operation order.. Everyone on this board should pm each pther and Mail in protests.. I argued number 18 based on the stem as well.. Trust me.. I need 2 points and I got 1,10,18,45,54,106, and 115 wrong.. We need Christmas to come early for a lot of us..

ondeeair2321 · Guru

HardExam raises a valid valid point. and i agree with you. the fight is all about certain ones. 18 i agree with too-----its jacked according to the OO.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

but if ur tossin 106-----6 is an absolute throwout. u gotta know that if they toss for the reason we all know they gotta toss the others.

sgt2be · Guru

115 I'm talking bout c...completing a certain part of the form...it's done in one procedure but not the procedure they locked you into. For the last time...a was no good..off by a word.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

we all know the word. acquired/disposed. its the assumption part. if we assume for that are we to assume for whole test?

sgt2be · Guru

No it wasn't the word...the entry itself was off by a word...the actual entry was not correct. That's wat made the choice wrong

TrueNorth30 · Veteran Member

First off I would like to thank you guys for taking the time to protest..I on the other hand went to the test on a beautiful Saturday morning, walked in and opened the test..that's all I remember..aside from the pale face and puke when I went to bathroom..

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

TrueNorth30 wrote:
First off I would like to thank you guys for taking the time to protest..I on the other hand went to the test on a beautiful Saturday morning, walked in and opened the test..that's all I remember..aside from the pale face and puke when I went to bathroom..

What's your score?

TrueNorth30 · Veteran Member

Too far gone brother...57...but you guys should be on the list..I just can't believe how you remember the actual questions...studying for all this time got me no where!

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

TrueNorth30 wrote:
Too far gone brother...57...but you guys should be on the list..I just can't believe how you remember the actual questions...studying for all this time got me no where!

Sorry man. A lot of people, good bosses, got the shaft from the exam. What a shame.

emt54 · Veteran Member

ondeeair2321 wrote:
but if ur tossin 106-----6 is an absolute throwout. u gotta know that if they toss for the reason we all know they gotta toss the others.

I disagree. Questions 6 and 106 aren't even in the same category. 106 has hard evidence that the correct answer can't be tested as per our cutoff date. Question 6 asks you to do something that was impossible, but I can see the panel determining that it doesn't affect the answer.

70please · Senior Member

Surprised nobody talking about 79 ... The question about the old lady that can't drive and ya know the rest

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

emt54 wrote:
ondeeair2321 wrote:
but if ur tossin 106-----6 is an absolute throwout. u gotta know that if they toss for the reason we all know they gotta toss the others.
I disagree. Questions 6 and 106 aren't even in the same category. 106 has hard evidence that the correct answer can't be tested as per our cutoff date. Question 6 asks you to do something that was impossible, but I can see the panel determining that it doesn't affect the answer.

Agreed.

TrueNorth30 · Veteran Member

Thank you brother...we shall see..stranger things have happened in this department..we will ALL find out when the final answer key comes out and the list is made..good luck to you all!

scheduleB_magnet · Guru

TrueNorth30 wrote:
Thank you brother...we shall see..stranger things have happened in this department..we will ALL find out when the final answer key comes out and the list is made..good luck to you all!

Yes you never know. Enjoy your family and freedom for now.