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B0LTFAN · Member

RE: Gamblor Answer Key - Updated 4/19/15 @ 1000 hours

LtTest2015 · Senior Member

I really don't think there will be a lot if any throw outs if any! Thinking about questions and then looking the actual answers up, they really made sure they got it right. Sucks and they really dug deep to f**k us

63ASAP · Guru

I was thinking the exact same thing. The goal was to make a test like 2011 minus the throwouts and it looks like they might have succeeded. It's clear that for anyone who studied passing was a complete luck of the draw. Though if that is the case it's very likely that there will be another test in under two years a la Captain style.

GDASSCLUB · Senior Member

I don't think the test writers were looking to screw anybody. Their goal was to make a hard test with a less than %10 pass ratio. I studied my ass off and consider myself a good test taker. Well this test was out of my leauge. I just wasn't smart enough and I didnt hold the mental capabilities to get through the test. I got beat and it sucks.

Gamblor · Senior Member

Dr Resnick wrote:
I got a potential of 65. The equation is simply just the total (120) divided by how many "correct" u got. Not counting the "maybes", and obviously the throw outs/double answers/research. Basically there is noway of knowing where you really stand until the research questions r taken out of the equation.

That is not at all how the equation works. It already factors in the 20 research questions and gives you an assumed amount of "maybes". The only thing it can't determine are throwouts, but other than that, the accuracy is fairly good.

Junius78 wrote:
After entering into the spreadsheet, my pontential score was 70. Is that factoring in research questions... As in i may have a 70-78 or is 70 highest bet?

Yes, that does factor in research questions. 70 is your probable score.

skiguy37 · Senior Member

79 on gamblor key... Still not confident at all on that beast of an exam. And I still stand by my other words: "**** you to the test writers"

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

Hey guys, like everyone else that took the Lt's test I am so bummed out. I am sorry for all of you that are feeling this way because you all deserve better than this. I studied for 7 months straight and I thought I had it. After inputting my answers into Gamblor's spreadsheet, I scored a 64. Do I stand a chance With an output of a 64?

-- Edited by EDPs R Fun on Sunday 19th of April 2015 11:56:52 PM

Southerly winds · Newbie

78 on Gamblor key

1METSFAN · Veteran Member

I'm at a 61 potential score. I have multiple double and triple answers I got wrong. Hoping to get a 70.

96Times6 · Senior Member

To Gamblor:

Is there an update forthcoming tonight?

supercop · Senior Member

Where do I send my answer key to?

FranknBeans · Senior Member

I'm out I only got 19 right out of the first 60. Epic failure.

sixmonthwonder · Guru

Even if I passed, I want to fight the guys who wrote the test. Someone set up the smoker please.

Junius78 · Veteran Member

EDPs R Fun wrote:
Hey guys, like everyone else that took the Lt's test I am so bummed out. I am sorry for all of you that are feeling this way because you all deserve better than this. I studied for 7 months straight and I thought I had it. After inputting my answers into Gamblor's spreadsheet, I scored a 64. Do I stand a chance With an output of a 64?

-- Edited by EDPs R Fun on Sunday 19th of April 2015 11:56:52 PM

I asked gamblor what my potential 70 means. It means about 95% that will be around my score minus or plus one or two points. That factors in research questions in favor

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1unda · Member

Great f-ing morale booster. That exam looked like the last sh$t I took. What kind of a scam is this. Take a step back and look at this. It's Unexplainabl. They should be embarrassed to promote off this list of lucky sgts. Nobody in the right mind could have done well in this. These tests are gonna be like fD. U have to study for years to make it.

ondeeair2321 · Guru

yeah this is a abortion this test. if this key holds any weight i d say you have to have under 40 & under wrong to even be in the running. trust me at 37 i am not holding my breath with capt insano. i heard last week this nitemare has pages of evil counter material to screw people over.

DOS_EQUIS · Senior Member

ATTN MAC users:

Initially, I was not able to input my answers using my Macbook either.

I downloaded the document, then emailed the document to my GMAIL email account, opened the document via email, and it worked like a charm.

-- Edited by DOS_EQUIS on Monday 20th of April 2015 12:54:27 AM

1unda · Member

ondeaire. I remember u from my Sgt. Test. People used to hate on u but u had credible info al

1unda · Member

Sorry. Got cut off. Are u at a 64? I think the variables that are remaining can make such a big swing but gamblor said its plus or minus 4. I don't see it can be that accurat.

Junius78 · Veteran Member

If youre on iphone or ipad you can just open it in the 'numbers' app and input from there

New2this · Senior Member

66. HOPE there are a few questions thrown out. Also, hope that the twenty questions don't work against me. 7 possible double answers.

1unda · Member

Maybe I'm not thinking about this correctly. This key said I got a 64. But the possibility that I am plus 20 or minus 20 is equal. So how could it be accurate to plus or minus 4.

Su Madre 24 · Guru

How many samples are we up to right now. Did we get an update yet

EDPs R Fun · Senior Member

Here is my breakdown

Gamblor · Senior Member

Su Madre 24 wrote:
How many samples are we up to right now. Did we get an update yet

Update not posted yet, I'm still entering keys. Close to 80 now.

supercop · Senior Member

66 for me with 5 doubles possible fml

Gluestick · Veteran Member

I just don't see how this key can be accurate. Was it accurate in 2011?, because 168 raw score passed that test out of 3000+ who took it. After the throw outs and double answers it went to 700+. Not sure if that will be the cases here. The majority failed this test no doubt about that so it looks like this key has some issues inputting a bunch of failing keys. But if it worked for the 2011 test, i guess there is something to it.

Samiam32 · Senior Member

Good point.

narco26 · Senior Member

I got 43 wrong out of 120 what would my score be.

Gamblor · Senior Member

Gluestick wrote:
I just don't see how this key can be accurate. Was it accurate in 2011?, because 168 raw score passed that test out of 3000+ who took it. After the throw outs and double answers it went to 700+. Not sure if that will be the cases here. The majority failed this test no doubt about that so it looks like this key has some issues inputting a bunch of failing keys. But if it worked for the 2011 test, i guess there is something to it.

I can't account for throwouts or changes to the answer key, nor do I claim to. This key will get your score very close to what you would have with no changes to the exam. If they make 20 changes like they did in 2011, you'll do significantly better. If they only do a few, then your final score will also be close to this key.

The main point of this key to to provide a small level of comfort to those that likely passed.

Gamblor · Senior Member

narco26 wrote:
I got 43 wrong out of 120 what would my score be.

Put your answers into the spreadsheet and it will tell you.

soccerpsyco32 · Senior Member

Gluestick wrote:
I just don't see how this key can be accurate. Was it accurate in 2011?, because 168 raw score passed that test out of 3000+ who took it. After the throw outs and double answers it went to 700+. Not sure if that will be the cases here. The majority failed this test no doubt about that so it looks like this key has some issues inputting a bunch of failing keys. But if it worked for the 2011 test, i guess there is something to it.

The key Gamblor creates utilizes basic principles of statistical probability. It is indeed very accurate on the whole. I don't believe Gamblor created keys for the 2011 exams. I think his first endeavor was with the 2013 SGT Exam and with the 2013 Captain and 2014 Captain exams. The 2013 SGT exam was the first exam where DCAS threw the curveball research questions in. We had 30 extra, and even with those 30 extra questions, Gamblor's key placed my likely score at an 88. When I went to the protest session, I discovered I had an 89. Gamblor's key was accurate to within 1 point, not only for myself but for the vast majority of test takers. Just reference the 2013 SGT forum and you can see for yourself. The only thing Gamblor's key does not account for is throw outs. Any throw outs are determined by the Test Validation Board. In 2011, promotional school instructors were able to sit for the exam and submit protests. This resulted in an unprecedented amount of questions being thrown out. Those who took the 2015 test will NOT have the advantage of having the promotional exam instructors advocate for them at the protest, as a consequence, there will likely be far FEWER throw outs this time around.

Samiam32 · Senior Member

Thank you for taking the time to create the answer key. I think that the grumbling is just due to everyone's frustration. What I would like to know is, can you see any changes in the answers with the additional answer keys that you've just added? Also will you be posting an updated answer key tonight?

narco26 · Senior Member

At work on the street just wondering if I have a chance with 43 wrong, thanks.

NoMoreTests · Newbie

Has anyone heard from any of the schools or are they maintaining radio silence?

Su Madre 24 · Guru

I text yanosik after the test and he called me asap. He said his people told him the pg procedures were ones he feeled he had covered. He seemed upset and shocked that they threw 10 of those "things" that started on question 24. (I'm not giving hints but you know)

DRPapi1983 · Guru

narco26 wrote:
At work on the street just wondering if I have a chance with 43 wrong, thanks.

Sitting on a 69%

Gluestick · Veteran Member

Thank you for putting it together but i think there are too many variables. People are submitting corrupt keys so you are going to have corrupt results. If the results are like 2011 with just 168 or a 4% pass rate. If you get 100 keys and only 10-15% scored above a 70. The number just don't add up. I got a 50 on Gamblor key, I studied my ass off and think I actually a 70. I got a 62 the 2011 test and finished with a 68 after throw outs

It might have worked with the Sgts test when you were getting more than at 4% pass rate. Bad data = Bad results.

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Hopefully I will be in there,....not sure what to think,...

robocop31 · Veteran Member

Will we have an a update tonight?

DRPapi1983 · Guru

Gluestick wrote:
Thank you for putting it together but i think there are too many variables. People are submitting corrupt keys so you are going to have corrupt results. If the results are like 2011 with just 168 or a 4% pass rate. If you get 100 keys and only 10-15% scored above a 70. The number just don't add up. I got a 50 on Gamblor key, I studied my ass off and think I actually a 70. I got a 62 the 2011 test and finished with a 68 after throw outs

It might have worked with the Sgts test when you were getting more than at 4% pass rate. Bad data = Bad results.

I think Gamblor's answer key is pretty accurate. We will see the results May 18th (5th Monday)

Gluestick · Veteran Member

If he is getting around 25% passing keys i'd say so. But there is really no way to know who is passing and who failing. The more failing keys submitted the more the results will be corrupt.

GDASSCLUB · Senior Member

Having trouble input answers on my android phone/ iPad.? Any suggestions?

Junius78 · Veteran Member

GDASSCLUB wrote:
Having trouble input answers on my android phone/ iPad.? Any suggestions?

Try using the Numbers app which i believe is already installed in one of latest versions of Ios. Choose to open the spreadsheet in that app

bigfoot45 · Guru

IM at a 67

bigfoot45 · Guru

I dropped 33. What would my score be in theory for you math wizards?

Junius78 · Veteran Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
I dropped 33. What would my score be in theory for you math wizards?

Did you input it in spreadsheet?

robbob357 · Newbie

60 so far. Gotta hope for the best.

bigfoot45 · Guru

So i plugged all my answers in. My potential score is exactly a 70.... shaking my head.

Junius78 · Veteran Member

bigfoot45 wrote:
So i plugged all my answers in. My potential score is exactly a 70.... shaking my head.

Im in exact same boat