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6 hours 45 minutes?


Anyone else notice on the admission slip the test is 6 hrs 45 minutes long? I guess that means.we could expect a curveball.  I don't mind since i'm failing anyway, but fyi for all of you. 



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It actually mentions "experimental questions". Probably like last sgt test with 30 extra.

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Additionally, I couldn't find the number of questions that the exam will contain. The original, amended N.O.E. or the admission card do not say anything. The admission card does indicate "answering all test questions, including those that are for research purposes only."

Good Luck!



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Is it just me? Or does anyone else feel these extra " Research Questions" are just an easy avenue for the corruption of the civil service process and fudge the outcome of who passes. We are not informed of which of the questions are research and which are not. Who is to say the research questions will not be chosen after the exam, and only to assist the privileged?

Also, does anyone know if the last Sergeant's exam has any legal challenges because of this?



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I was told the research questions were recycled questions from past exams. Did anyone else here this ?



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I for one think that these research questions are for them to make a bigger list by throwing out the questions that most of us had wrong. A way to circumvent the system and established a bigger list

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They could accomplish that by throwing out the questions most got wrong. Many times just throwing out one or two questions adds a substantial amount to the list.  But to have 20 extra questions, with no real accountability for them......... well it wouldnt be the first time someone would abuse it.



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I think there were about 5 or 6 questions that I can remember that can be legitimately challenged too. Perhaps those are "trip wires" to aggravate you when hopefully those questions don't count? I remember one, not going to reveal the subject matter in the question, but it asked for the incorrect statement and 3 of them were incorrect while one answer was correct. So I reread it and it didn't make sense? So they wanted the incorrect/least correct on something were 3 of the 4 choices were clearly incorrect? Perhaps they meant most correct and this will have a triple answer? Or it was in there to get thrown out and throw you off?

Also for those that were promoted off the 2011 Lt exam there was a PINS warrant question that the proposed answer key (it wasn't challenged yet for the final key) actually had a triple answer, so who knows?

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That is true.... I reread that question like 10x.... And said the samething to myself.... I couldn't figure out what answer they wanted...

i eventuallt gave up on the question



-- Edited by hollar on Tuesday 16th of September 2014 11:53:49 AM

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I distinctly remember one that was the opposite. Said pick the correct answer and there were 3 correct answers. I just assumed they got it wrong and meant to pick the incorrect answer. I definitely don't trust the "research questions." What the hell are they researching? It really seems they'll decide after the fact whether its a research question or not. I failed anyway so no matter to me lol. Good luck everyone.

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Yeah, I wouldn't mind the research questions as much if it was absolutely set in stone BEFORE the exam was administered which questions don't count. To do it any other way seems like the exam can be corrupted and people with connections can manipulate what they need to pass and exam they had no business passing. The thing is though these exams are not at all transparent so its impossible to hold DCAS and the department accountable.

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We should be entitled to know what research is being conducted. Just surprised that DCAS opted to play these games considering all the civil rights litigations that FD was and still is experiencing.


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Many of those research questions were actually questions from past exams. I spoke to a few guys who took the 2010 test and they expanded on some difficult questions they had on their exam, which were recycled into this exam.

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Still some fraud late test takers out there.  Lets not ruin the surprise for them



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PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't mind the research questions as much if it was absolutely set in stone BEFORE the exam was administered which questions don't count. To do it any other way seems like the exam can be corrupted and people with connections can manipulate what they need to pass and exam they had no business passing. The thing is though these exams are not at all transparent so its impossible to hold DCAS and the department accountable.


 The questions are set in stone beforehand. You just don't know which ones they are. If they told the test takers which questions wouldn't count, people wouldn't take them seriously and the whole point of experimental questions would be out the window.

 

The idea of experimental questions is not new. It might be new to promotional exams but other tests out there always have experimentals on them, like the LSAT. THey have a whole section thats experimental.



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