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1534sux · Senior Member

Captain's Test...

stiggityone · Guru

Tentatively scheduled for 11/23/13. No finest yet but it's coming.

bha78 · Senior Member

Where are you getting this info?

bha78 · Senior Member

And if it is true then they would have to announce it next month..

stiggityone · Guru

http://youtu.be/ZXr-nLock7k

brat4914 · Guru

UGH !! ..................thats all i have to say

tensixone · Senior Member

Another summer down the drain

wereinbacklog · Guru

Wow that's just around the corner.

wereinbacklog · Guru

Stiggity are you taking it?

stiggityone · Guru

Yeah...I feel like I'm constantly at a ****ing meeting as it is. Might as well make Captain's pay.

wereinbacklog · Guru

stiggityone wrote:
Yeah...I feel like I'm constantly at a ****ing meeting as it is. Might as well make Captain's pay.

True story

brat4914 · Guru

you can all have it...........my train will not be stopping at the next station

stiggityone · Guru

I probably wouldn't take it either if I had the money or had a tit spot.

NYG37 · Senior Member

It also depends how much time you have on the job. A lot of the guys from 2011 test will have between 8-12 years on. That's a long time to stay a Lt.

brat4914 · Guru

I have 20 and am in a great spot

18and1 · Senior Member

brat4914 wrote:
I have 20 and am in a great spot

Then you would be insane to take it! If u have less than 15 and on patrol, you should probably take it. However, I think I'd rather be a platoon commander than the XO of a Precinct.

stillwaiting · Veteran Member

Any of you guys know if any of us who are in the low 400s will be able to get promoted in time to take the next Capt test?

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

stillwaiting wrote:
Any of you guys know if any of us who are in the low 400s will be able to get promoted in time to take the next Capt test?

No.

unborn · Guru

I am getting unconfirmed info that the Finest announcing the test is going around now.

unborn · Guru

stillwaiting wrote:
Any of you guys know if any of us who are in the low 400s will be able to get promoted in time to take the next Capt test?

Probably not but you'll be a shoo-in for the May 2014 Captain's exam.

stillwaiting · Veteran Member

Thank you guys

wereinbacklog · Guru

unborn wrote:
I am getting unconfirmed info that the Finest announcing the test is going around now.

Havent seen it.

smartcookie · Senior Member

stiggityone wrote:
Tentatively scheduled for 11/23/13. No finest yet but it's coming.

I also heard Nov. from a couple of people. smile

Wood Chipper · Senior Member

What are the requirements to be eligible to take the captains exam

brat4914 · Guru

be a Lt one day

Tiger · Senior Member

How long do u have to have in rank to be promoted?

1534sux · Senior Member

2 years in rank to get promoted. It just occurred to me that there are going to be a sergeants studying for Captain by going to the free classes at the academy meant for cops!

infinity · Senior Member

Here we go again.

JustWonderin · Guru

unborn wrote:
stillwaiting wrote:
Any of you guys know if any of us who are in the low 400s will be able to get promoted in time to take the next Capt test?
Probably not but you'll be a shoo-in for the May 2014 Captain's exam.

If they're administering an exam November 2013, there will not be another exam in 6 months (May 2014). I am in your boat too still waiting. We are probably looking at early-mid 2015 for another test

infinity · Senior Member

Study hard. Make the 1st class and it won't even matter. Best of luck

collarsfordollars · Senior Member

Anyone knows if Captains get any chart days?

Edubz · Senior Member

No chart days, 9 hour tours first 4 years in rank.

brat4914 · Guru

It's more like............... no chart days, 15 hour tours, no RDOs and thousands of hours in accumulated comp time

Sergeantslaughter · Veteran Member

How many years in rank as LT to get promoted to Capt.?

hollar · Guru

What's the positive of the captain rank???

wereinbacklog · Guru

hollar wrote:
What's the positive of the captain rank???

crickets.......crickets........crickets......

bha78 · Senior Member

You need 2 years in rank as a lt to get promoted to captain...and I know that a lot of ppl who are getting promoted off this list have less than ten years on the job and most of them will be taking the captain's test because they don't want to be lieutenants for an entire decade (nothing wrong with it depending where u work)...that is including myself..

bha78 · Senior Member

PS the positive can be retiring with a little bump in your pension if you stay in the rank of captain for 5 years..DI pay does look sweet at retirement.

Friar Tuck · Veteran Member

November's test doesn't even seem like enough time to study so much info. Where is the understanding?

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

I am already going to trafficstat and platoon commander meetings as of now. Going to even more meetings, like blaststat, compstat, etc. even more frequently with no end in sight since any higher promotion would be political and even if I made DI or full bird, I may likely still go to the frequent board room meetings to get berated.

Also splitting RDO's, frequent duty captain duties which is basically the guy holding the bag for the biggest bags of shyt in his patrol boro on any given day, no cash overtime, I am really having a hard time of seeing the upside?

Yeah, making more money is good, but the the quality of your life with no end in sight other than retiring is kind of sad. It would be nice if the job eliminated many of these meetings, but it seems like they are adding more.

These meetings are laughable too, all they do is waste everyone's time studying stats to everything, most of which hardly even matters! I mean trafficstat you can have good numbers and you get that gotcha moment of a motorist or bicyclist randomly being photographed making an improper turn at a random time of the day and you get berated. Its pathetic, some media outlet should do an expose on this. Getting pressured, yelled at, and threatened for nonsense. Yup, the modern higher ranking NYPD...

FranknBeans · Senior Member

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brat4914 · Guru

PatrolGuideismyBible................YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!

stiggityone · Guru

So don't take it. Why post the negatives of taking the test? Are you trying to convince us not to take it or convince yourself not to? It's a personal decision based on your current assignment and how much time you have on.

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

Just saying, they should throw us a bone to be captain. Consecutive days off maybe? Splitting days off that rotate along with hours that rotate too? I guess if you want no social life for the rest of your career and your wife/husband/significant other doesn't mind never seeing you, its not so bad.

I am not trying to convince anyone not to take to the test or to take test, just pointing out that the treatment you will get from the job will be far worse than at any other point in your career. If you are a Lieutenant making a decent amount of OT, I just don't see the upside.

Maybe someone on here can explain the upside? I would love to know how many chart days you get, how is it to take a day off, how long to top pay, if your schedule can be predicted well in advance or they set the rotating tours on a whim?

wereinbacklog · Guru

PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Just saying, they should throw us a bone to be captain. Consecutive days off maybe? Splitting days off that rotate along with hours that rotate too? I guess if you want no social life for the rest of your career and your wife/husband/significant other doesn't mind never seeing you, its not so bad.

I am not trying to convince anyone not to take to the test or to take test, just pointing out that the treatment you will get from the job will be far worse than at any other point in your career. If you are a Lieutenant making a decent amount of OT, I just don't see the upside.

Maybe someone on here can explain the upside? I would love to know how many chart days you get, how is it to take a day off, how long to top pay, if your schedule can be predicted well in advance or they set the rotating tours on a whim?

I hear you the rank sucks. I'm going to take anyway for pension purposes but not too happy about it.

thisjobsucks · Veteran Member

Good luck to you guys taking the Captains exam. I have zero ambition to study for this exam. I am finally back in OCCB doing 40 to 50 hours a month easy OT. Sgt over her not so easy lol.. Average top pay LT here in OCCB doing 40 to 50 hrs a month is pulling 175K+. I understand all the guys hired after July 2000 wanting to be Captain due to pension reasons, with your last year only being pensionable, but I am lucky and I am in in the best 3 consecutive year average era. One more decent contract and Lt's in OCCB could be making close to 200K with OT. They can keep the split RDO's 9 hour tours, Traffic stat, Dom Stat, 4x12 duty and at 2330 hrs being notified your doing a double into the midnight, the list goes on and on lol. I was a SOL before going back to OCCB so I feel your pain with all the stupid redundant meetings they force on us. Good Luck on the exam

Edubz · Senior Member

PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:

Maybe someone on here can explain the upside? I would love to know how many chart days you get, how is it to take a day off, how long to top pay, if your schedule can be predicted well in advance or they set the rotating tours on a whim?

"Needs of the department".that's all you need to know

PatrolGuideismyBible · Guru

Yeah, I mean for the next Captain's contract they should negotiate something very simple- CONSECUTIVE RDO'S!!! Is that really too much to ask?

Gomery2898 · Veteran Member

I've been going back and forth on the whole capt's rank. I agree with both the positive and negative statements. As far as the money, you can make as much as a capt if not more as a Lt, but that all depends on where you work. One can argue the previous statement that as a capt the money is guarantee but we all know that capts work plenty of overtime, the only difference is they don't make the cash overtime. The quality of life is definitely better as a Lt but I think you are all forgetting one major motivator, and that is ego. For some guys is not about the money is about being a capt in the NYPD as cheesy as that sounds. You know most of the capts and aspiring capt hope to be a chief on this job one day, although most won't come remotely close. As for me, I'm going to take the test but I'm not putting much effort into the studying. I blew my load on the Lt's exam. lol

1534sux · Senior Member

bha78 wrote:

Does anyone know what the starting captain biweekly salary is?

The answer to this question will determine if I can afford to take the test

-- Edited by 1534sux on Friday 3rd of May 2013 02:15:58 PM