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Thank you for posting the questions and protests


I wasn't able to attend te protest this week but I plan on mailing in as many protests as possible, all the info is so hopeful. Thanks to those that passed and still attended the protest. I'm praying I get my 5 points

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please dont say u will mail and u dont. we need all the support we can get



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Trust me lol I need all the help I can't get. Though I know enough people are protesting, I can't just sit back and do nothing. So trust that I will mail in my protest.
I'm for the cause too

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innocent1 wrote:

please dont say u will mail and u dont. we need all the support we can get


 yes i agree, to all those on this site, please make sure mail your protests . if you need help you can pm most guys on the site , that im sure will help you  dont wait until the last days, mail them in today  



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area1 wrote:
innocent1 wrote:

please dont say u will mail and u dont. we need all the support we can get


 yes i agree, to all those on this site, please make sure mail your protests . if you need help you can pm most guys on the site , that im sure will help you  dont wait until the last days, mail them in today  


 

 

Absolutely.  I couldn't go so I had to mail all of mine in.  I protested 10.  I'll be more than happy to email a copy of what I put together.  I protested these 10:

24- The prisoner visit
29- Walk-in request for the PAR prep
45- 53 on the bridge
47- Dept. 53
50- Hypo cap at roll call
63- PINS
64- Missing
89- E-day
91- Crying PAA
100- OT for the CO's assignment



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Can u send more protests after sending ur original protest? You said u sent ten, if u find more errors can u send more?

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Yes via mail

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dont forget question 77 . It is also 77- OT for the CO's assignment. This question was about an increase in traffic accidents and the XO wanted you to review statistics for a presentation coming up. The answers again has you staying past your tour and authorizing your own OT.


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Greetings to all. I am not sure if this will help, but I spent some time working on the protests, attended the DCAS protest session on 11/30/11 in Brooklyn, reviewed the test, spoke to M. Yanosek from (former) Fast Track, who was in protesting the test in the same room as me etc...You are absolutely right, there is power in numbers, especially when we are dealing with a poorly-written, subjective abomination, known as the 2011 Lt's test. Here are some "protest-hints" (hope they may help):

# 62 (for those who took the test 10/29/11) is a defective question: the stem of the question addresses an illegal eviction situation, it introduces 2 UMOS- yourself, who is a 2nd plt commander, and your driver-PO Martin. No other UMOS are mentioned in the question at all. All 4 answer choices, however, refer to an actor named "PO Omar". It is impossible to determine what action by this actor would be the best/ most correct one, since no information is provided regarding this actor- whether he is present at the scene, his duty status, assignment etc. Therefore, question # 62 has no correct answer.

# 63 is based on PG 215-08 I.O.16 and addresses the topic of when the Arrest Report Supplement needs to be prepared for PINS. It provides 4 choices (intoxicated 16 years old juvenile PINS, 16 years old juvenile PINS found in the house of prostitution, 16 years old juvenile PINS who is stranded, 16 years old PINS who is a runaway).The question asks when would the Arrest Report Supplement not be prepared. The question is written based on the test-writer's incorrect reading of this procedure. Arrest Report Supplement is prepared for PINS who is 16 or 17 years old, as per 215-08 I.O.16. No other "qualifiers" are provided or required for that. All 4 answer choices refer to a list that follows the statement in 215-08 I.O. 16 re: preparation of Arrest Report Supplement for PINS who are 16 or 17 y.o. (runaway juvenile, stranded juvenile, intoxicated juvenile, juvenile under 16 years of age found in a house of prostitution etc); however that list is not related to the 16 or 17 y.o. PINS. Its just a continuation of a list of situations when Juvenile Report needs to be prepared. Indeed, note re: preparing Arrest Report Supplement for 16 or 17 y.o. PINS follows step c). of that list. Furthermore, all 4 answer choices refer to a "16 years old juvenile'. According to P.G. 215-08 I.O.16 juvenile is over 7 but less then 16 years of age.therefore, question # 63hasno correct answer (or depending on one's reading of it, all 4 answer choices are equally correct.)

#89 is the much-disputed "E-day question". the answer proposed on the DCAS answer key puts the actor, "Lt Holland" in direct violation of P.G.203-03 point 2 that states "obey lawful orders and instructions of supervising officers". he "no excusals for the next 6 tours' Finest msg is a lawful order issued by someone who outranks the actor in the question, "Lt Holland", since such Finest msgs are usually sent by the authority of the Chief of Department. On the other hand, answer choice C (asking the UMOS requesting the e-day if another member of his family is available to provide care for his child), provides an option of handling the situation in a constructive manner; assisting the UMOS in finding other options to get care for his child, while not putting the actor in the stem of the question in violation of P.G.

#100 deals with a situation when the actor (administrative supervisor of some kind) has to get a highly important report prepared in an accurate and expeditious manner. the proposed answer choice involves this actor authorizing overtime. This answer is in direct violation of P.G.205-17 definition point a), that stated that non-ordered overtime is not authorized for administrative duties on any level. It is also in violation of point b). of definition -same procedure, that states that ordered overtime can only be authorized by PC, 1st Dep. Comm or Chief of Dept.

Good luck with your protest, everyone!

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