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I would like to portest the firearms discharge question, and I am coming onto this discussion forum to get as much assistance as possible. I was unable to go to the walk-in protest session, but I will be submitting my protest for the firearms dishcarge question by mail. As a fellow MOS, I ask for any help possible in trying to assist me with this protest. I am reaching out for a reason, and the help would greatly be appreciated. I do not recall what question# it is, nor the exact possible choices that were given. I am in a similar situation as marc0930, and I can definitely use the extra point. I am not trying to be a sh*% stirrer; just trying to get people who protested this question to assist me in protesting this question as well. Thank you.
-- Edited by SPEEDZTAR on Thursday 17th of November 2011 04:44:06 PM
It's question #61 and the question went as follows to the best of my memory it basically asks which is the only situation that would result in an investigation. The answer was "A" the fire arms safety station at Bellevue. The way I protested yesterday at the protest was by saying choice "B". which was using your off duty Glock 26 while engaged in a legal target practice and having an accidental discharge also requires an investigation. The reason for this is the Patrol Guide states a discharge at a gun range while legally engaged in target practice is not a discharge in the Note section of page 1, at the top of 212-29. It then goes on to say at multiple parts I believe on page 6 & 7 in the additional data sections that all discharges ALLEGED to be accidental must have an investigating officer to respond whether injury or death occurred. This statement right here is key, it obviously implies an investigation of some sort must take place no matter how small. As long as the word accidental is alleged its investigated. Look over the section. Page 1,6,& 7 specifically. You'll find what you need. Others fought it from a throw out stand point I fought it for a double answer. If you didn't get "B" you got to fight for a throw out or for double answer "D" which is the Rodman's neck answer. You clearly are at Rodman's neck but they never say you're on the point or targeting. The PG does not mean in the cafeteria at the range or cleaning your gun in class it means there's no such thing as an accidental discharge while targeting. Even that can be questioned when looking at page 6 & 7, speaks solely of just a simple allegation of a discharge being accidental. If you really want to stretch it you can even say choice "C" which is the hunting option was also accidental and local authorities must be notified. Point I made on the protest is the question is basically too vague and by inserting the word "accidental" into the options they engaged a totally different part of the procedure. Which is the investigation part.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Thursday 17th of November 2011 06:46:42 PM
-- Edited by Semp1 on Thursday 17th of November 2011 06:47:50 PM
-- Edited by Semp1 on Thursday 17th of November 2011 06:48:20 PM
Thank you Semp1....I did put Rodman's neck, and the response you gave is exactly what I was looking for. If there is someone who attended the session yesterday who could recall the question verbatim, please feel free to respond to the topic. Thank you.
I did attend yesterday. I tried to remember. But all you need to put is that you're protesting 61. The rest of the info I supplied you with is more than enough. Get that protest in ASAP. Good luck.
Hey I also chose D for this because like stated above, it does not say you're firing on the line, you could very well be in the bathroom or in the lecture hall. Let me know when you've sent it out, because it would be beneficial to us if they made choice D a double answer as opposed to throwing the question out all together, where everyone would get the point.
I thought that question was fair. You just had to know that the hospital is not a deparment facility. They used the unloading station there to try and trick you since we all know the situation is different if we let a round go in the pct unloading station. If you go hunting and let a round go who cares... you missed the deer, try again. If you let a round go at the range while on the line who cares.... shoot one less round on the next beep... that happens all the time.... There is no harm in protesting but I think you guys are really trying to pull apart the question. If you guys remember on test day the instructions actually read to "not read into the question." Good luck. I really don't think anything will get thrown out on this test except maybe 97 for the spacing if your lucky
The reason it can get thrown out is because the word accidental is not used in the PG. you can only test exact wording when referring to procedures. Yes it's a long shot but still a possibility.
