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In basket

1. The ECB return date was in November, it was 21 days for food or property in the fact pattern it was clothes (property). 21 days exclusive of weekends and holidays. The question made you reference an incomplete calendar in the month of November. It had the weekends, but labeled no holidays. No Veteran's Day (11/11), Election Day (varies every year but is always in November and IS a holiday, and Thankgiving is always on a Thursday late in the month and the choices were 11/21 (wrong), 11/28, 11/29, 11/30, and the summons was written on 11/1. Not sure what the right answer is, but if you picked any of the last three, you can probably protest it. The only one that I think that would be mathematically impossible to get within striking distance is if you chose 11/21.

2. Map with 213. TR had a college even going on in the afternoon on the second platoon at two of the choices, but the question never gives you a time when the hazmat with the level 1 happend. So how can you pick the correct mobilization point? Not enough info, thowout.

3. The E Day was subjective and had a specific CO memo and a choice to inquire if other family could care for the kid which was vague, protest

4. The Sgt going to conditions did not give enough criteria to answer. One Sgt had excessive CCRB's I think, another was retiring, so how do you eliminate the other 2? Also can you really eliminate any of them, no criteria set anywhere in the in basket. Protest.

5. Lt deciding which order to perform his duties was subjective. I think I got what they were looking for, but it is a judgement question with no criteria on the test.

6. SOL deciding how to adress disorderly group on a map question in sector D? No criteria given if the Special Posts can help out or not, nothing on using a Sector, conditions, youth, anything. Unless it was masked as a 202 question and had you only using units that the SOL supervises, but it did not say and being it was on an in basket it needed more info to answer. Protest.

PG Questions

7. The drug for cause, too vague went to steps in the procedure that weren't followed in the fact pattern and one of the choices was realted to an addtional data statement that doesn't fit into any chronological order. Also didn't make clear what they were asking, just "most correct". Protest.

8. 217 Qualifying veh/cond of severity, too vague, doesn't spell out a condition of severity well enough either way to answer it and uses the word "biohazard" placard. Up for interpretation. Protest.

9. 217 Leaving scene/PAR or MV104? Refer? Give them a MV104? Broken hand, seriosu injury or not? Gray area in the book, not spelled out to properly answer in stone as right or wrong. Protest.

10. 216 Aided or routine sick in nursing home? Vague, choking, heimlich didn't work, thats it doesn't say what happend after that. Not a DOA, Cardiac, Injury, gray area. Protest.

11. Off duty incident with cop throwing an object at his wife missing her. DO does 49? In one PG procedure he does, in another its CO/DC would and in the real world the CO/DC would especially since the cop committed what could be interpreted as a misd, conflict in the book and in real life for a very inconsistent and subjective exam, yet they asked a question on it? Scumbags... protest.

12. Crime Scene question, thought it was fair and straightforward and I got it right, but there is a conflict in 212 vs. everywhere else in the book on who actually notifies Crime Scene PDU or the PSup. I know it was going to the 212 procedure, but being there is an obvious conflict and the rest of the exam was very subjective, it worth a protest for those that didn't get it right.

13. The 21 year old prisoner and the parental visit. He met the criteria as in he was in the sh over 4 hours and was being processed for a DAT, but the book never locks you into under 21 or 21 years old? The fact pattern he was 21. The question would have been fair if it went with a clean cut number like 22 years old or 2o years old, 21 is up for interpretation. Protest.

14. Where strip search would not get documented? Medical Treatment Prisoner form. Ground ball, but can be protested since the DO would not document it on the online? Would he? It would get documented there, but would he do it? Possible double answer?

15. Authorizing a strip search. A/O's supervisor would do it, but anther choice said that subsequential strip searches can by done later on if it is believe the prisoner acquired property at any other time during the processing. That is also correct! Double answer?

16. Removing a Sgt's weapons bc he is having suicidal thoughts? I chose you don't fill out a Removal Form. But would you remove the Sgt's guns as a Lt? Not sure? Also in other procedures there is a conflict, you don't remove anything until told to by the CO/DC. Possible protest?

17. 217 AGAIN??? 217 was sick on this exam, its as if the exam writers don't understand that section!!! Can a Lt recommend training for a cop that got into an accident for going through a red light during an emergency at a "constant speed"? I know a Lt can be a CO in some commands, but in Dept Veh accidents, it always Pct of occurence, I have never heard of a Lt being a CO or XO of any Precinct anywhere in my entire career. Not a Lt duty to test on. Also can a Lt give a CD? No, he can fill out a Supervisor's Complaint Report recommending to the CO/XO that a MOS get a CD. Bad question, thorwout.

18. Brown hair clip on brunette female cop vs. Tattoos on rookie with CO approval in personnel folder. Double answer!

19. Hate crime, even though I know I got it right, you do not notify the CO, Hate Crimes TF direct. Was the body of the question even a hate crime? A kid makes a comment as a gay guy walks by and thats it? Every choice had you treating it as a hate crime? Might be a stretch, but if the fact pattern doesn't follow the rules, how do you ask a question on an incorrect fact pattern?

Math

 20,21,22- "most productive, most improved, etc." all opinion, gave absolutely no criteria and is not a fair grouping of questions. In past exams they lock you into looking maybe at charts and comstat pages and ask specific questions, this just had you interpret "most improved", "most productive"

Reading Comp/Grammar- not really something you can protest other than it made this test much more time consuming than past exams. Also things such as captializing "Command Discipline", it is done throughout dept forms and the PG, so not fair, possibly one protest? 23 now!!!

Judgement- pretty much all are subjective and can be protested. I was never told on the application or anywhere about a police leadership book prior to the exam. But a few more in particular that blatantly violated PG rules regardless of your judgement call:

24. EEO question, all 4 choices violated PG rules in not reporting the EEO as a choice.

25. Lt with a team of cops doing some admin work, some of the choices violated PG rules (authorizing ADMIN OT?)

26. Lt and trafficstat with the XO, violated PG rules, Lt cannot authorize summons OT, checkpoints, or discuss quotas with cops at Roll Call.

27. cop with knowledge of female hoarding toilet paper. It is still dept property, 1 choice, tell the lt to order more? Others you are going into another cop's locker to retrieve it but not telling the Lt about the theft. Another you try to convince a cop to come forward instead of reporting a silly corruption issue?

Keep 'em coming, this protest session will be interesting, I thought of 28 specific questions already!!! I am sure there are others I don't even remember!!! Worst exam ever, the exam writers are buffoons...

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