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A person with 5 years on and makes sergeant should just be grateful they have a great jump start on their career and pay structure. And to those detectives that are on the list, I hope your current salary, no matter what step you are on, is higher than the sergeants starting salary by the time you get called so you can jump to top pay. Its sweet. No waiting 4 steps to top pay. To all on the list: BE PATIENT. All your time WILL come. Its even more sweeter when you get the message at 1700 hours on that awesome Wednesday evening.
Congratulations to all. AND stay safe.
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Could someone please advise exactly how much money do you bring home as a new sgt. I have an idea but i am not so great with math. I want to buy a home soon and I need to know exactly what I can afford because I may be a sgt. soon. I'm on 2009 list. Thanks for anyone's help.
your looking at 3,300 or so before taxes with longevity.. depending on your deductions they'll probably take out a nice chunk in taxes somewhere around 900-1000 bucks and there you have it taking home approx 2200-2300 a pay period if your not in deferred comp or ITHP
look at the scale you don't make **** for four years and you don't make overtime either. But buy the house anyway the market sucks and you'll never get better rates.
nope nothing came down which means no class for september ... i dont know if anything can come down now for september.. i hate to even think about this nonsense anymore ...
Lets see less than 3 yrs in rank, plenty of overtime (only when i want it ) ton of chart days and make over 100,000k. But i rather get ordered in on my days off, get stuck with collars when i want to go home and get denied days off. Some may want to justify that being a cop is better and to some it is, however you cannot speak for all. At the very least its one step closer to Lt. and when you retire you can market yourself just a little better (if you choose to work)
Lets see less than 3 yrs in rank, plenty of overtime (only when i want it ) ton of chart days and make over 100,000k. But i rather get ordered in on my days off, get stuck with collars when i want to go home and get denied days off. Some may want to justify that being a cop is better and to some it is, however you cannot speak for all. At the very least its one step closer to Lt. and when you retire you can market yourself just a little better (if you choose to work)
Where do you work that sergeants make ot?
Bosses in my command are living slightly above the poverty line
On a precinct level PATROL bosses make next to nothing in ot but detail bosses can take a few hrs or so on their cops collars...its not much but it adds up
Hey Mike, You are 100 % right. Different situations for different people. I was in Brooklyn North the first half of my career. Having to interact with savages. Part of my tenure was 2 and a half years in Narcotics with the nastiest of the nastiest. Enough was enough for me. I studied my a$$ off for the 2008 exam and was fortunate enough to pass. I got promoted and the benefits for me was that there was no more having to be pressured for summons or collars. No more sergeants that do not know what they are doing to tell me what to do. No more handling of smelly, disqusting, winter cold snot dripping, dried white foam on the side of the mouth having, 4 day old eye crust having, 10 day old morning breath having, AIDS infested, filled colostomy bag throwing savage beasts to sit on in the hospital, sit with and walk through at central booking or process. Not to mention putting my hands through things where I risk getting stuck, cut or poked with whatever these scum of society have in there pockets. AND the crappiest hours in Narco with the crapiest days off. I do have to say that overtime does depend on what command you go to. When I was promoted, I was sent to a extremely slow pct, but I did make o.t. with CRV and "supervising arrest processing", it does add up. Contracts change, pay increases. The sergeant rank should be viewed as what lifestyle YOU want of it. Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it...lol Good luck to all and whatever you all decide. AND STAY SAFE OUT THERE.
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I was in Brooklyn North the first half of my career. Having to interact with savages.
This is 2010....Still calling people savages Sarge? REALLY??
Yes this is 2010 and I am still calling savages what they are, savages. Even in 2025. If are person behaves as such, then thats what they will be called. So really???
-- Edited by wileone on Thursday 2nd of September 2010 06:21:56 PM
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I was in Brooklyn North the first half of my career. Having to interact with savages.
This is 2010....Still calling people savages Sarge? REALLY??
That is really offensive.
Offensive??? What is offensive ?? I can't call the perps I had to interact with animals. THAT is insulting to dogs, cats, mice and the rest of the animal kingdom. AND if you get offended by the term savage, then you are not cut out to be on this job. How can another cop rely on you to back them up if the sh%& hits the fan?? You are offended by a word. I feel bad for your partner and other cops you have to work with. You are a safety hazard. If a word offends you, then how can you handle the streets???? You can't. What about a tough skin??? I forgot chicken skin is soft and thin. wahhhhhhhh - cocle-doodle-doooooooooo !!! lol
-- Edited by wileone on Thursday 2nd of September 2010 06:19:56 PM
-- Edited by wileone on Thursday 2nd of September 2010 06:20:18 PM
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Although I do like pv$$y, I don't like the smell of a qwiff.
I too spent the first half of my career in Brooklyn North and before in the USMC. The fact you are so bothered by someone taking offense to your racist and close minded perspective on those who live in Brooklyn is disturbing. You shouldn't be a supervisor let alone a cop if you view people who simply live in a section of the city as "savages". As for your comment about the streets....Whether it has been in Iraq or Brooklyn, I handled them just fine. Thinking the way you do does not make one tough it makes you weak and mindless. You should conduct yourself more professionally.
Not to put words in anyones mouth but i dont think Wile's use of the word "savages" was directed at any specific race or neigborhood but at the crack-heads, junkies and drug dealers of the world. Any cop who puts their hands on people has encountered a "savage" and the term is not reserved for any one type of person or demographic area. And yes, the phrase can obviously be used in an offensive manner, but thats just not what i took from the context...
Hey Verbres, I am a racist now?? No I am a realist. Do you think I am going to quiver about you calling me that? I heard worst. I am not whining "wahhhhh I am offended". Are you sure you were a Marine? I guarantee that you NEVER cried about what you think are offensive remarks while you were in the Marines. You would be someone's dinner if you did. Its liberal cry babies like you that ruin this job. Where have you heard of people whining about being offended or feelings hurt or EEO crybaby lawsuits in the more professional departments like Port Authority PD, Nassau, Suffolk etc?? YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER YOU DOPE. If a person tells you that you are a F__king "pig". WHat are you going to do?? summons him? collar him? You know you can't. Oh I know, you are going to tell him that you are offended because he is stereo typing you by calling you a pig. ohhhhhhhhh. By the way, I have an emmense respect for ALL military personell and by you bringing up the fact that you were military or been to the middle-east in the manner you did, DOES NOT IMPRESS ME ONE BIT. You are probably be the only one I would NEVER say thank you to. And yeah, I CAN say I got "toughened" by working those SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE SAVAGE BEASTLY DISGUSTING STREETS. I would love to say this to your face. I am a hell of a lot more professional than you. AND I do deserve this rank. I studied hard for it. Straight to top pay too. I don't give a crap about this job. The f--king ghetto. The way SAVAGES live. THEY WERE MY OVERTIME. Its about the O.T. thte benefits. That it. So you go live the job, see how far that gets you. Jacka$$. YOU ARE NO COP. YOU ARE NO MARINE AND WILL NEVER GET MY RESPECT FOR IT. So save your professionalism, your criticizing of others beliefs. YOU ARE THE RACIST! I did not mention any thing like race, religion or greed. Brooklyn North has a lot diversity in it. WHere is your mind? Another thing, I don't care what race YOU are. Call me what you want. I would NOT break a sweat if you were Black, White, Brown, Blue or purple. Wahhhhh wahhhhhh . Now go pick up your phone and call EEO you cry baby rat! P.S. You really know you wish you were me. And you know exactly what I am talking about too. Marine and cop? Ha !
-- Edited by wileone on Friday 3rd of September 2010 01:48:11 AM
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did you ever notice when people talk about race they say "i don't care if you were purple or green etc." well i think you should care because that person probably needs immediate medical attention.
Im going to have to agree with Wileone...I work in BN and savages is not collective. we are the police, we usually deal with criminal activities...especially in BNND...we dont encounter the victims as much as others do such as the 84, 88...We deal with pure dirt; by that i mean the drug dealer that has no problem destroying homes, livelyhoods, as well as KILLING people to do what they do.
A savage is basically someone who has absolutely no regard for life, no respect for members in their community...you get the point. I dont think he means collectively, he means the savages that act and live like savages.
-- Edited by SATCOM on Friday 3rd of September 2010 08:37:26 PM
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a ducks, acts like a duck, what would you call it? A Duck.
As per Oxford English Dictionary:
savage (sav·age)
Pronunciation:/savij/
adjective (of an animal or force of nature) fierce, violent, and uncontrolled: tales of a savage beast a week of savage storms cruel and vicious; aggressively hostile: they launched a savage attack on the budget (chiefly in historical or literary contexts) primitive; uncivilized (of a place) wild-looking and inhospitable; uncultivated (of something bad or negative) very great; severe: this would deal a savage blow to the government's fight
noun (chiefly in historical or literary contexts) a member of a people regarded as primitive and uncivilized a brutal or vicious person: the mother of one of the victims has described his assailants as savages
verb [with object] (especially of a dog or wild animal) attack ferociously and maul: ewes savaged by marauding dogs subject to a vicious verbal attack; criticize brutally: Fowler savaged her in his next review
Derivatives savagely adverb savageness noun
Origin: Middle English: from Old French sauvage 'wild', from Latin silvaticus 'of the woods', from silva 'a wood'
I'm pretty sure there are several people in this world that fit this definition. Look up the definition of a meaning before passing judgement on how it's offensive. This word can be said about any color/race. For those that take it the wrong way open your minds and stop acting like its you against the world. The definition is from the English Oxford dictionary, look it up and be enlightened. If you feel the word is still offensive after actually understanding the meaning do something about it and write to Oxford dictionary about how degrading the word savage is.
i also have to agree with wileone he never mentioned anyhing about skin color and if he worked in brooklyn north as a patrol cop and in narcotics then yes most of the people he had interactions with were perps. not to say that everyone in bn is a perp but when do we have run in with doctors and teachers or priest ??? well i guess the occasional doctor taking advantage of patients while they were drugged the hot teacher sleeping with the lucky stupid 15 yo that couldnt keep the secret and the priest with the candy in his pocket . err sorry got side track wat was i saying oh wileone never mention as a race and in brooklyn north it is very culturally diverse. althought i must say the topic in this forum was sgt contract so if someone want to start taliking about savages then they should start a new topic
Since when did cops start defending perps??? The Sgt. was obviously stating that Perps from Brooklyn North as well as anywhere else are savages. I cant beleive anyone would think different and anyone who feels the need to defend the word savage should have another background check done. How did any of you guys relate that word to racism when he never mentioned anyone except perps??? Who is really being the over sensetive one now. Some people here automatically related the word savage with some type of race or another so thats on you, not him. Untill then, you better have each others back and stop the nonsense. I understand that all he was saying is that its better to supervise than to do the grunt work which can be dirty sometimes.
If you were a cop in BN and didn't interact with savages, then you were never a cop in brooklyn north...plain and simple.
Savage is not a term I like, but some people are what they are....and it isn't about race...I know many black and hispanic cops who refer to many of these perps as savages...
I think he posted a comment just to be part of an argument.
I never understood why a cop would ever side with a perp. I don't want to make a broad statement but i noticed a lot of guys that came out in 2006 are very perpy; they defend a lot of the "Urban survival techniques" that the savages in Brooklyn North have honed.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me...I think that was the 25k class if im not mistaken.
-- Edited by SATCOM on Monday 6th of September 2010 03:45:33 PM
I think he posted a comment just to be part of an argument.
I never understood why a cop would ever side with a perp. I don't want to make a broad statement but i noticed a lot of guys that came out in 2006 are very perpy; they defend a lot of the "Urban survival techniques" that the savages in Brooklyn North have honed.
Has anyone else noticed this or is it just me...I think that was the 25k class if im not mistaken.
-- Edited by SATCOM on Monday 6th of September 2010 03:45:33 PM
I do have to agree with you. I have noticed a large portion of that too. Welcome to the new NYPD.
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