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As we all agreed, this was the test to take...I got a 75 on this exam and am in the 650-655 range...What are the odds that we wont make it? Considering the economy, what are the chances that the lower end may get the shaft?
This test wasn't easy, It was well written but whats up with 40+ people getting over a 90.
-- Edited by Quagmire on Wednesday 24th of March 2010 01:36:55 AM
Those 40+ people probably just answer the phones at INRU, OMAP, the Sick Desk, or probably Crime Prevention Officers... People who aren't real cops... God helps the pcts who get them and they haven't seen the street in years or if ever....
This list is active four years from the day it's released. With 150 or so left on the 08 list and 780 on the 09, that's 930 in 4yrs. All we can do is keep our fingers crossed that they get to everyone.
so what about the other 75 in the high 80s....traditionally you get 78-88 is a good 70% of scores...ehh, whatever...I passed, thats all that matters. Hopefully i get made
The trend has been 10% passing rate. 780 of 6800-6900 is about 11.5%. IMO the in basket was ground ball the questions itself were similiar to he past. I think it just the fact that more people were studying and just more prepared. Everyone on this list will get made.
Sounds like hard exam is a little jealous of people who got in the top 40+.. I got in the top 40 and I'm on patrol so don't be too quick to judge who gets good scores.
I agree, I'm not I. The top 50 , but I know at least two who are, and they both are in patrol commands... Anyway, I believe the in-basket was easier, or at least upfront, from studying, I knew to take my time and do that part first, and I ended up getting all of them right, which def helped me!!
Congratulations to ringer and all those who passed. Been on the job a while now and taken quite a few of these exams......... missed the last fair exam in 1999 and made 2 or three lists after that only to die on the lists but my scores were low . Even died on a list with just 60 names away but again my score was low.
I could be wrong but think at one point passing was 75 or something like that but lists were also 2000 names or so.
Passed this one and am in the middle of the pack and like some one here said they havent killed a list in quite some time and dont feel anyone will be dying on this one.
As for someones comment about the reason scores were so high and that they are house rats or the other ...........remember , those house mice will be boss and the cop will be obeying them and thats that. I belief my current C.O has only 6 career collars but what can we do ?
i agree with ringer. i myself am in the top 65 and i have worked on patrol in a busy command since the beginning. i also know a few guys in the top 60 or 70 that arent house mouses. i remember the answers being straight forward. it was the questions that you had to bite through.
Those 40+ people probably just answer the phones at INRU, OMAP, the Sick Desk, or probably Crime Prevention Officers... People who aren't real cops... God helps the pcts who get them and they haven't seen the street in years or if ever....
I smell some jealousy here. Sorry super cop, the stripes aren't for everyone. Considering I am in the top 10 and do anti-crime, that really debunks your theory, huh? Don't be bitter that you didn't work hard enough to do great on this test. Maybe if you had spent more time studying and less time underneath your captains desk in whatever command you work in, you could have been in the top 40 too. Don't hate on everyone who worked hard.
Everyone on the list will be made. I remember that a few years ago this test was graded on the curve based on the top 1500 and people with 55's got promoted which pissed off the commissioner. To solve this problem they decided that 70 was passing and that all those who passed would be promoted.
hard exam im list number 3 you mope... been on patrol since day one out of the academy.. a little hard work and discipline got me what i have... no cushy detail straight 4x12 patrol so take it easy
This was the test to take for a couple of reasons, one of which is the fact that we all knew in the back of our heads this might be the last test given for a long time... That alone will motivate anyone to study a bit harder. Lets not forget that the rising star, the key etc were all pretty accurate with the study material they provided. In hindsight im surprised that more people didnt score above 90.
Blah...Blah....Blah, it's always "this was the test to take!" For those of you that passed"Congrats!!!! You worked hard and deserve it! Be fair, don't drink the koolaide, and remember you were a cop too!!!! .....PS that's the last time I ever take that test! C ya
The way I look at it, standing on a corner and writing 500 tags and collaring 10 homeless guys a month does not a good boss make either. I don't care about the activity of my boss, but whether he/she treats me well or not. I don't care where my boss came from or their activity as long as they treat me well, accept responsibility, and get my back when I am right. You can always learn the street, but you can't always learn to be a decent human being or maturity.
RICH-PD You did very well CONGRATS, perhaps some fountain and flatlands motivation. ;) To all, just remember when you get promoted what it was like being a cop and dealing with a$$hole sgt's. Don't be that guy!
Boyblue, 10-5???? Seriously bro, your grammar is terrible.
newUser god man i was miserable there...thank god i got the hell outta there... things since then have been so much better ..you can bet i know what its like to deal with a$$holes bro we r all on the same job in the end...
The inside people have nothing but time to study while people on patrol have to find time. This isn't debatable. I don't know the numbers but I would bet there are a lot of inside people on this list. I know at least two....and I only know about 5 names on the list.
I don't put down slower precincts because cops get killed in busy houses and slow houses as well, but working in a slower command also helps with the studying. You could be doing a 4x12 and be able to sit in your car and study while a guy from another pct would be going job to job....this is just the reality.
Being single and not having kids around also makes a big difference. Being able to go home and study in quietness without kids running around is a big advantage over having little ones running around yelling...
Point being, there are a lot of factors to consider. The people that scored higher studied more for whatever reason and I am happy for them. Some are housemice, some are in slower cmds and some are single....and some just made time in their busy days to study.
I passed the exam in the middle. I could have studied more, but there were a lot of reasons why I didn't (busier cmd, tour, kids.....) but that is life. I will get promoted someday and try to be the best Sgt I can...no matter what someone else scored.
good let long beach deal with him... if i learned anything from that, it is how NOT to treat people to mike your right i dont have kids at home so i have a silent house to study in before work.. as far as work goes i never studied at work because i can't concentrate with someone sitting next to me.. yeah SI is slower but my pct is the largest in NYC...
i have read all these posts, first off congrats to all that passed. I have been on the job almost 9 years and and worked in a few different places. I agree with mike that there are alot of different reasons people were able or not able to study, but one thing i have definitely noticed about this job is that it really doesn't matter where you worked but the person you are, if you were an A$$hole as a cop you will be the same as a boss. Yes there is a definiteexperience factor from working in an "A" house to a "C" house, but that can be learned. I am in a detail, i have run around and chased the radio, made alot of collars, and have gotten really hurt in doing so sometimes. What really matters is what you have at home, your family, whether it be a spouse or parents etc... and to go home to them. In the end they are all that really matter, your peers will respect you for your actions out there and not from where you used to work. And if you back them up and treat them right. I passed and am toward the end of the line. I am in a detail and, to be honest life is alot better here in my opinion. To ride around the same sector, in a sh!t hole, and to live to tell war stories gets old, and no not very financially lucrative. There are so many different things to do on this job and most of the cops out there are better than that and definitely under appreciated where they are. I applaud and respect every person out there still, and know that when i get called i will be out there again, I am just saying to try to look at the other side of every coin, that's all
NewUser, there is nothing wrong with my grammar. However, since you are writing on here, I assumed you passed, so congratulations to you and good luck when you get promoted.
