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BertMan


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this key is based off 25 lists. the first letter is the most common answer. a few are still questionable. i listed the total letters for each number so u can see what everyone put. some dont add up to 25 b/c a few people didnt include those answers. take it for whats it worth.


1)   C 25C
2)   D 18D 4B 1C
3)   B 17B 3A 4C
4)   B 17B 1D 5C 1A
5)   B 21B 2D 1A 1C
6)   D 25D
7)   D 25D
8)   C 25C
9)   B 23B 1D 1A
10) A 22A 2B
11) A 20A 2B 2D
12) A 22A 3C
13) D 25D
14) B 22B 2C
15) D 23D 2A
16) B 20B 3A 1C
17) D 24D 1C
18) C 20C 2A 1B 1D
19) B 24B 1A
20) D 17D 5A 1B 1C
21) B 17B 7A
22) C 20C 1A 2B 1D
23) A 24A 1C
24) B 22B 1A 2C
25) A 14A 5B 3C 2D
26) C 25C
27) A 24A 1C
28) B 16B 4A 4C 1D
29) C 19C 2B 3D 1A
30) D 25D
31) B 23B 2A
32) D 24D 1A
33) A 24A 1B
34) A 25A
35) B 24B 1C
36) A 25A
37) A 9A 8D 3B 3C ???
38) D 23D 1C
39) D 13D 10C 1A ???
40) B 12B 7C 2D 2A ???
41) B 19B 3A 2D
42) A 23A 1B
43) D 16D 3B 1A 4C
44) A 23A 1B
45) D 15D 7B 2A
46) A 23A 1B 1C
47) C 22C 1D 1A
48) D 16D 4C 4B
49) C 23C 2D
50) A 21A 2C 1D 1B
51) D 25D
52) D 12D 8A 2C 2B ???
53) D 15D 6B 3C
54) A 19A 5B
55) B 19B 2D 2C 2A
56) C 16C 3D 3A 3B
57) A 21A 3B 1D
58) B 18B 5C 1A
59) C 20C 4B 1A
60) D 24D 1B
61) A 12A 12D 1B ???
62) A 12A 7B 4D ???
63) A 10A 8C 2B 3D ???
64) C 12C 7D 4B ???
65) B 16B 6D 2C
66) A 25A
67) D 21D 3C 1A
68) C 13C 9D 3A ???
69) C 21C 2B 1D
70) B 18B 4A 1C
71) B 24B 1A
72) A 16A 3B 2C 2D
73) C 25C
74) A 14A 9B ???
75) A 25A
76) C 9C 8B 6A ???
77) B 22B 2C 1D
78) D 15D 8A 1B
79) C 23C 1D 1B
80) C 24C 1B
81) A 18A 4C 2B
82) C 19C 4D 2B 
83) C 10C 10D 2B 1A  ???
84) D 13D 5C 3A 2B 
85) B 14B 7C 1A 2D
86) D 22D 2B 1C
87) B 24B 1A
88) C 19C 3B 2A 
89) B 21B 4C
90) C 17C 6A 2B 
91) A 25A
92) D 19D 5B 1C
93) A 25A
94) B 21B 2D 1A 1C
95) D 23D 1B 1A
96) C 25C
97) D 23D 2C
98) A 24A 1B
99) B 22B 3A
100)A 23A 2B



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Bertman excellent job on this key. Good job breakin it down. And 25 guys is a good amount. According to this Im at 72 NOT counting the ?? ones. 72 seems to be the number I get on every key. I'll take that in a heartbeat!!!!

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foxd do you mean you counted ?? as wrong or you got 72 without counting them at all. So is your 72 based on 88 questions ?

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I am at 69 not counting the very close doubles.

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NYG, according to this key I match 72 right NOT counting eight "???" ones that are too close. But I actually might have a few of those right which might bring it up a little bit. so I counted 72 out of 92 right.

-- Edited by fodx at 15:29, 2009-02-11

-- Edited by fodx at 15:30, 2009-02-11

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Thank you bertman...Im at 72% without counting ????....72 OUT OF 88 CORRECT WITHOUT COUNTING ???
-- Edited by SATCOM at 16:08, 2009-02-11

-- Edited by SATCOM at 17:17, 2009-02-11

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Bertman: 
thanks a lot, excellent job, i am at 80 counting most doubles and all the ones with the question marks. thanks a lot from all of us. what about you?


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I am at an 80

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If I count all the unknowns as wrong I am at 73... Which gives me some points to play with... Studied 6 mths... Thanx for the key....


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Bertman..Thank You so much! With this I have 20 wrong which gives me an 80%...so I have room to play with!

My wife is still mad at me baecause I told her that I would be back to being a husband when the test is over and every minute I am on here looking for updates.....later guys and good luck!



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i have 19 wrong not counting the question marked ones..so i should be good

if anyone else has more keys send them to me or post them

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hey bert, im with u on the 19.. and thanks for the work with the list.

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I got 60 without doubles and unknowns. I'll hope for the best.

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I got 3 different from that key

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I thought that from other discussions, it was agreed upon that #37 was "D" I got that one wrong if it was but maybe someone remembers that.....

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100% D... I know cause i got wrong... i wont discuss question yet, but it was that hard Youth one where answer was from addition data in Juvenile Section of PG... even though it is listed as unknown i marked it as wrong on my sheet..

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can some1 tell me what question 2 was..either on here or pm me..im just curious ..u dun got 2 put the whole question..i 4got wut it was

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WHAT EVERY SCORES U GET FROM THESE SHEETS ITS STRONGLY ADVISED THAT U ADD A PLUS 5 -7 WRONG JUST TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE. I'M NOT KNOCKING IT BUT KNOW FOR SURE THAT UPDATED KEY ISN'T PERFECT. BUT GOOD JOB PUTTING IT TOGETHER. IT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE REPLIES EVERYONE PASSES LOL I WISH WE COULD ALL PASS BUT THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.



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Thank you for all of your labor intensive work you are aces,not counting the super close answers I got a 74.confuse

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bertman job well done thanx for hard work
i would like to point out to question 37 as i said before on numerous occasions.
the correct answer choice is absolutely 100% D. answer choice A dealt with D/O duty of sending copies of SCAM report and making proper notifications to State registry obtaining # and logging the # in T/R. B C also dealt with D/O duties...
But the question stem asked PO's responsibility which was to find non-abusing parent/guardian (stepdad) and refer to safe horizon.U could find the proper step in Juveniles section...
Now based on this choices i got 80. Including really questionable ones 74.

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BTW, where did u find those 25 guys??

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-----> i would like to point out to question 37 as i said before on numerous occasions.
the correct answer choice is absolutely 100% D. answer choice A dealt with D/O duty of sending copies of SCAM report and making proper notifications to State registry obtaining # and logging the # in T/R. B C also dealt with D/O duties...
But the question stem asked PO's responsibility which was to find non-abusing parent/guardian (stepdad) and refer to safe horizon.U could find the proper step in Juveniles section...

my man, Isn't the question 37 something about the retired sgt. she was one under for petit larceny and brought into the house?
    

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diehard
the only question that i remember that had as an answer choice-petit larceny-was about for different perps and which one of them DATable. the question about sgt. was the one who discharged his firearm off causing non-life threatening injury.
question 37 was about PO who arrested a mother who assaulted her 11 year old son. they gave us a slip before the exam with a corrected answer choice. remember? that was 37 but answer was D not A

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Does anyone remember questions 61 and 83? The answers are 50/50 on this key. I can't recall at all what they were about.

61 12a/12d

83 10d/10c

Does anyone know how accurate was the 2008 exam combined answer key? Was it way off, just a couple of questions off or identical to the final key?

-- Edited by bee1242 at 18:15, 2009-02-12

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sig226 wrote:

BTW, where did u find those 25 guys??



everyone from this site sent me thier keys

 



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bert first of thankyou for doing the answer key. and did you hear that some people that took the key course got an email that said the force figures are 28

-- Edited by cjs2571 at 23:29, 2009-02-12

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Hey cjs2571, I counted my force figures three times and I kept getting the same number 28. Including everyone tour changed.

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YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE. I KEPT ON GETTING 28 AS WELL INCLUDING THE TOUR CHANGES

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bee - the 2008 answer key was off by 2 points for me but it was much more accurate than anything we are getting here...

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By any chance does anyone know what the any of the following questions are?

39
63
68
76

These are some double answer ones where I'd like to check and see if I got right.

The next time I take one of these tests Im gonna try to make as many notes on the pink sheet as to what numbers were what questions for the ones I wasnt sure of so I can check it when I got home.

-- Edited by fodx at 22:01, 2009-02-13

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I wouldn't stress these answer keys too much. I was looking at last years keys and it seems they were off by 5-10 points

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i think the answer key that Bertman prepared is pretty good....

does anyone know when rising star will release an answer key??

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I like this proposed answer key. Did anyone see the key by KEY instructor? I have and the difference between the key and his is 20 questions. His answer key as well has flows. I guess we will have to see what dcas puts out.

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NYG - Can you post "the key's"?

Does anyone have the The Key's answer key?????

can we start up a final "answer key again?


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ANSWER KEY FROM THE KEY WITH 20 QUESTIONS OFF?  I SMELL A LIE



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I have nothing to gain by that.

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im gonna post the questions from his key that are different. The rest of the questions are the same.

1.a
4.d
21. A OR B
25.c
27.d
29.c
37.d
39.c
40.d
48.d
50.d
61.d
62.b
63.b
65.D OR B
68.d
70.B OR A
83.d
84.b
85.c

-- Edited by NYG37 at 17:19, 2009-02-14

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who is the source of this key where did they get it?

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thats not the Keys answer sheet... The Key was emailed regarding that key that was emailed, they responded by stating that is not there answer key and they are not going to put one out

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BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE/SHE HAS A FOR NUMBER ONE, I DID NOT HAVE TO LOOK AT THE REST confuse no

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I have recieved that other email as well. If you compare the both they are different. 20AndOut as far as your comment goes, read above i did say that this instructor will have some questions wrong. And as far as answering questions i know that he didnt do inbasket first, given that he might not have been as sharp at the end. Regardless, which key is used i passed on all keys that have been posted here. I did slightly better on this key then the one posted by Bertman.

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if any of u attended the last KEY cram that instructor allegedly stated that he was going to take exam. Soon after the exam the KEY students received email with answers. The first sentence in email stated that key was not putting out a/k but then who the hell came up with those answers from their official email address??? However, its not a secret that inspector and the crew go to test sites and take the exam and some of the instructors repeatedly stated that throughout the course. I believe emailed a/k was prepared by them they just dont want to admit it to avoid conflict of interests...

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If everyone took the test, why the hell do they wait 5 weeks!!! It drive sme nuts, just release the damn thing!

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thanks for the post nyg37, with that info some of mine that were wrong are now right and vise versa...still getting around a 75...I will take it.....

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Oh man, I hope those arent right NYG, witht hose changes in the key I lose around 5 points. This sucks.

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Your welcome. Ofcourse, nothing is 100% , in the end the only key that will matter is the one from DCAS. Hopefully we will all make it.

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at least we can now have a a beer/whisky and wait instead of studying harder!

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with emailed ak my score is in mid 70s. with the one proposed by bertman 80 (actually i am not the1 who scored 80..something strange)
i dont care ...give me 70..as long as i pass!!!

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Is the keys answer key legit? With Bertmans key im at an 80.. I dont have the stomach to check another key that might be false or put out by a disgruntled student.

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Join the club bro. u r another one with 80

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