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Knice · Newbie

FIVE YEARS IN JAN 2010.

stiggityone · Guru

This question gets asked on every thread. Very simple....you can not lose out on your promotion based on lack of time on the job. PERIOD. If your list expires and a new list is generated prior to you reaching your five year anniversary, you will be promoted with a class from the new list when you hit five. It's that simple. It's actually a pretty nice feeling. You essentially have a good year where you're a lame duck as a cop just waiting for your fifth anniversary and a promotion, not a bad deal.

jaggedj · Senior Member

if u passed the 08 test there's no reason to take it over cuz u will get hired off of the 08 test first anyway. even if u score a 100% on the 09 test.

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 12:45, 2008-07-03

jaggedj · Senior Member

hey knice if u r trying to tell us that u passed the test...and r worried that u will be passed over strictly cuz of your lack of time I would tell u... do not take the 09 test. I REPEAT DO NOT TAKE THE 09 test. the job cant not promote u just for your lack of time. trust me!!if u study u will waste months of your life for no reason!anyone on this thread who understands this concept would agree with the advice I'm giving u.

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 12:44, 2008-07-03

JustWonderin · Guru

Cat...i hear what ur sayin about dying on the list...Or them "killing the list" but that can only happen if they never get to your list number. For example if your # 600 and they cut the list at 550. I thought as long as they get to your name they have to promote you, even if you do not have 5 years on??

-- Edited by JustWonderin at 15:49, 2008-07-02

JustWonderin · Guru

cat wrote:

MY ADVICE TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM ASK OLD TIMERS IN YOUR PCT HOW MANY TIMES A LIST HAS BEEN KILLED NO MATTER WHO OR WHAT WAS LEFT ON THE LIST!

Cat...I know ur usually on the money with ur info but I gotta say ur wrong with this one. Old timers would not know the answer to that question because prior to the 2003 test there was no passing grade. There was a curve, meaning guys that got a 55 on the test would get promoted. So that was when guys would die on a list. Now that 70 is a passing grade, the only way to die on a list is if they kill it before they get to your list number..meaning if ur # 600 and they kill it at 550.

jaggedj · Senior Member

JustWonderin wrote:

Cat...i hear what ur sayin about dying on the list...Or them "killing the list" but cant that only happen if they never get to your list number? For example if your # 600 and they cut the list at 550. I thought as long as they get to your name they have to promote you, even if you do not have 5 years on??

u r right. if they get to your list # u can't be cut off.I dont understand what's so hard to comprehend. and ppl on this site have to understand that yes some others here r giving out good info on when classes r coming out. but thats only cuz they have someone whispering in there ear good info.that doesnt mean that person knows everything there is to know about this job. all it means is they got a few dates from someone, thats it!!!!

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 23:59, 2008-07-02

-- Edited by cat at 12:43, 2008-07-03

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 12:44, 2008-07-03

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 12:42, 2008-07-03

cat · Senior Member

-- Edited by cat at 12:42, 2008-07-03

al3181 · Veteran Member

You guys r talking about two different things and you are both right. Plus, CAT, everyone can express their own views even if they wrong. Anyway, CAT, don't get angree, we all friends and co-workers here after all. So now, when is that list comming out?

jaggedj · Senior Member

LET ME START OFF BY SAYING THAT I AM NOT HATING ON CAT CUZ SHE IS PUTTING OUT INFO.BKLYNINSIDER AND CAPS PUT OUT INFO AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WIT THEM!THIS ALL STARTED FROM THE TOPIC THAT WE R TALKING BOUT NOW.I THOUGHT IT WAS OVER BUT APPARENTLY CAT IS NOT WOMEN ENOUGH TO LET THINGS GO!I CORRECTED CAT ON THIS VERY TOPIC B4 AS I AM NOW AND OFCOURSE CAT CANT TAKE B CORRECTED CUZ SHE IS THE KNOW IT ALL GURU SO SHE HAS A PMS ATTACK.SORTA LIKE WHAT SHES DOING RIGHT NOW.RELAX CATTTT ITS NOT THAT SERIOUS.U R WRONG ABOUT THE NYPD KILLING THE LIST ON PPL THAT DONT HAVE TIME ON.DEAL WIT IT!ITS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.

SECONDLY -I DID NOT TAKE THE TEST 4 TIMES.LMAO BESIDES DIDNT U SAY I HAVE NO TIME ON??SO Y WOULD I TAKE THE TEST 4 TIMES?

THIRD- U SAY U KNOW WHEN THE LIST IS COMING OUT N NOW U WONT SAY CUZ OF ME?PLEASE GROW UP ALREADY.WHAT R U 90 YRS OLD?START ACTING YOUR AGE.IF U DONT WANNA TELL US FINE!I DONT CARE.I HAVE MY SOURCES AND EVEN IF I DIDNT IT DOESNT MATTER.THE LIST WILL COME OUT WHEN IT COMES OUT.ILL WAIT.NO SWEAT OFF MY NUTT SACKK.IVE TRYED MY HARDEST TO IGNORE U BUT U JUST IRRITATE ME.I HATE PPL WHO THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL N CAN NEVER EVER B WRONG ON SOMETHING!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 03:07, 2008-07-03

MN50 · Senior Member

Someone should call the grammar police forthwith, ONE TEST PEOPLE WAS ALLOWED TO GET PROMOTED ,CAT, don't get angree, we all friends . Anyhow not to gang up anyone, but jaggedj makes a valid point, someone gets good info as to when classes are being put in, and that's great they are willing to share that info here, but it doesnt mean they know everything, they are being fed info, so others take every word in like its gospel because they are desperate to hear something. People are also allowed to have their own opinion, but what it comes down to are facts. For those who are concerned about the list terminating and a new one starting up should call DCAS, and ask whether you will get promoted when you hit your five with the new list. That is who you should be asking, not cops on some message board, I myself have heard that if the list you are on is killed and you were not made because a lack of time, you will be promoted with the next list once you have the time, then again i'm just a cop I maybe wrong.

jaggedj · Senior Member

THANK U MN50.FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS WHAT I AM SAYING!WHEN U GET MADE ILL BUY U A DRINK.

nycop80 · Guru

I suggest everyone in this forum place close attention to exactly what cat has said in the past or the future. For the millionth time, CAT, is probably the most reliable person with info on this board. I see there are some new members, but, please do not doubt her. Time after time, she has come through with bullet proof info. Jaggedj needs to stop contradicting CAT and just learn to deal with the fact that she knows what she knows. People should love CAT because she is able to take away some of the pins and needles feeling of not knowing. Yes, yet, again, info can change, but so far based on prior posts, CAT has been on the money. Stop being a jerk to CAT, and praise her.

jaggedj · Senior Member

WHAT R U A CAT GROUPIE OR SOMETHING??I GUESS U HAVENT BEEN READING MY POST.I NEVER SAID CAT WAS WRONG WITH THE DATES SHE HAS BEEN GIVING FOR THE BMOC CLASSES.THAT WAS NEVER A PART OF THE DISCUSSION!IM TALKING BOUT SOMETHING ELSE ALL TOGETHER!JUST CUZ U HAVE SOMEONE GIVING U INFO ON THE NEXT BMOC CLASS DOESNT MEAN THAT SHES RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!!Y DONT U USE YOUR BRAIN AND LISTEN TO THE FACTS INSTEAD OF BEING A CAT GROUPIE.GO GROW A PAIR!!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 02:30, 2008-07-03

jaggedj · Senior Member

MN50 WROTE:--Anyhow not to gang up anyone, but jaggedj makes a valid point, someone gets good info as to when classes are being put in, and that's great they are willing to share that info here, but it doesnt mean they know everything, they are being fed info, so others take every word in like its gospel because they are desperate to hear something.

HEY MN50 U MUST BE TALKING BOUT "CAT GROUPIE" NYCOP80..LOL

HEY NYCOP80 I HEAR CAT HAS THE BKLYN BRIDGE SHE WOULD LIKE TO SELL YA.FOR ONLY $5 TOO!!ITS A GOOD DEAL U SHOULD BUY IT.I MEAN AFTER ALL EVERYTHING CAT SAYS IS TRUE RIGHT?LMFAO weirdface

-- Edited by jaggedj at 02:45, 2008-07-03

MN50 · Senior Member

Case in point jaggedj. Nycop80, you need to pull yourself out of cats ass. No one is doubting that HER SOURCE has given her good info, which she graciously passed onto us, what jaggedj is saying is that her info about a person not being promoted at all because the list was killed and that person was passed over due to lack of time maybe incorrect. What happens if one day cat is wrong nycop, will your life fall into shambles no, because guess what? People are wrong once in a while. Plus what do you care, wont you be in the next class, what do you think they are going to do, kill the list with about 68 people left. Try to think for yourself, not just blindly follow what other people say, not a very good characteristic for a supervisor to have, wouldnt you say? I waited patiently for a year and half for my time to come, and enjoyed my time as a cop, and took everything I heard with a grain of salt, because nothing is so until your name is on the finest message. Relax people, everyones time will come, this job is in desperate need of sgt's, and that is a fact everyone can agree with.

jaggedj · Senior Member

THANX FOR THE BACK MN50.GOOD LUCK IN BMOC

cat · Senior Member

ALL I POSTED WAS THERE WILL BE 2 MORE CLASSES I SAID JUNE AND SEPTEMBER AND EVERYONE GOT THERE PANTIES IN A BUNCH, I NEVER SAID ABOUT SOMEONE TOLD ME THE LIST WOULD BE KILLED TAKE IT FOR WHAT'S IT WORTH! JAGGEDJ AND MN50 RAN WITH IT. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHERE DOES IT SAY EVERYONE ON A LIST MUST BE PROMOTED?????????

jaggedj · Senior Member

CAT MAYBE U REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND SO ILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR U.IT DOESNT SAY ANYWHERE THAT EVERYONE ON THE LIST MUST GET PROMOTED.HOWEVER IF U GET PASSED OVER STRICTLY ON TIME U WILL GET PROMOTED. LETS SAY OFFICER JOHN DOE HAS 4 YRS ON AND IS WAITING TO GET MADE.HES LETS SAY # 100 ON THE LIST.THE JOB GETS TO # 500 ON THE LIST AND THEN KILLS IT.OFFICER JOHN DOE WILL GET MADE WHEN HE HITS HIS 5TH YR.THE DEPT. WILL ADD HIM INTO THE VERY NEXT BMOC CLASS ONCE HE HITS HIS 5TH YR.BOTTOM LINE.NOW IF THE JOB HIRES 99 COPS AND THEN KILL THE LIST OFFICER JOHN DOE WILL BE SHYT OUTTA LUCK CUZ THEY DIDNT REACH HIM.THE CONCEPT IS RATHER SIMPLE.IF U GET SKIPPED STRICTLY ON TIME U WILL GET MADE.IF THEY KILL THE LIST B4 THEY GET TO U THEN U R SCREWED.I AM WRONG ABOUT MANY THINGS IN MY LIFE BUT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TIMES!!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 03:53, 2008-07-03

al3181 · Veteran Member

Come on all of you. How old are you? Just let it go already or let's start "arguing and/or proove your point" forum. Cat, if you really have info on when there is a possibility of list comming out please let us know.

brooklynbacon · Guru

cat, your info is pretty good most of the time and i enjoy your posts but please stop with the bold font and type 68 font. Its unneccessary and just screams immaturity.

nycop80 · Guru

In reply to

HEY MN50 U MUST BE TALKING BOUT "CAT GROUPIE" NYCOP80..LOL

HEY NYCOP80 I HEAR CAT HAS THE BKLYN BRIDGE SHE WOULD LIKE TO SELL YA.FOR ONLY $5 TOO!!ITS A GOOD DEAL U SHOULD BUY IT.I MEAN AFTER ALL EVERYTHING CAT SAYS IS TRUE RIGHT?LMFAO

Do not be a hater. I have said before, that CAT might not be correct on everything due to the fact that things can change last minute. She has been right well over 10 times on dates, class sizes and other info. It has nothing to do with thinking for yourself , this has to do with common sense. I am just sorry for CAT that she has to put up with this nonsense. Maybe she just will not share any info to public forum anymore. I have no anger against jaggedj or mn50, i just wish people would appreciate CAT more than she has been in the recent past. There is nothing wrong with stating your opinion, that is cool, but lets be productive about it.

cat · Senior Member

JAGGEDJ U DON'T HAVE 2 BREAK ANYTHING DOWN 2 ME AT ALL I AM NOT A NATURAL BLONDE ON THIS MATTER ALL I'M GOING TO SAY IS TIME WILL TELL AND SOME GUYS WILL BE ON HERE BITCHING YOU'LL SEE MAYBE I KNOW SOMETHING U DON'T U EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT???

cat · Senior Member

OH AND MN50 GET OFF JAGGEDJ JOCK STRAP

al3181 · Veteran Member

Meow!

jaggedj · Senior Member

hey cat I call your bullshyt. I dont think u have any inside info at all!! i want everyone to notice that whenever cat posts her "inside" info it is ALWAYS AFTER someone posted it first!! u never ever posted info b4 someone else. u just piggy back off them and say "yeah I heard that info too" LOL cat u aint fooling anyone. if any body needs proof look at all the info cats posted these past months and u will see that someone has posted the info first! nice try cat!

jaggedj · Senior Member

u wrote on 7/2/08 that u know when the list is coming out n u won't tell cuz of me

then on 7/3/08 u said u JUST got a call and the list is coming out in sept.

so what is it cat. u had the info on 7/2/08 or when u got that phantom call on 7/3/08.maybe thats y u edited that post but too late cuz I figured u out!!I call BULLSHYT!!!!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 02:15, 2008-07-04

JustWonderin · Guru

jaggedj wrote:

CAT MAYBE U REALLY DONT UNDERSTAND SO ILL BREAK IT DOWN FOR U.IT DOESNT SAY ANYWHERE THAT EVERYONE ON THE LIST MUST GET PROMOTED.HOWEVER IF U GET PASSED OVER STRICTLY ON TIME U WILL GET PROMOTED. LETS SAY OFFICER JOHN DOE HAS 4 YRS ON AND IS WAITING TO GET MADE.HES LETS SAY # 100 ON THE LIST.THE JOB GETS TO # 500 ON THE LIST AND THEN KILLS IT.OFFICER JOHN DOE WILL GET MADE WHEN HE HITS HIS 5TH YR.THE DEPT. WILL ADD HIM INTO THE VERY NEXT BMOC CLASS ONCE HE HITS HIS 5TH YR.BOTTOM LINE.NOW IF THE JOB HIRES 99 COPS AND THEN KILL THE LIST OFFICER JOHN DOE WILL BE SHYT OUTTA LUCK CUZ THEY DIDNT REACH HIM.THE CONCEPT IS RATHER SIMPLE.IF U GET SKIPPED STRICTLY ON TIME U WILL GET MADE.IF THEY KILL THE LIST B4 THEY GET TO U THEN U R SCREWED.I AM WRONG ABOUT MANY THINGS IN MY LIFE BUT THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE TIMES!!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 03:53, 2008-07-03

Jagged well put brother...doesnt get any clearer than that

MN50 · Senior Member

First off cat and nycop80, you two need to work on your reading comprehension, perhaps nycop that is why you are 336. Secondly, I said I was not siding with jaggedj, I just said he had a valid point. The only ones who have their panties in a bunch are you two. Cat cries because someone is not in agreement with her, and nycop who is hanging off her tit begins to cry to because someone is going against his only source of info. And by the way you are posting info cat that is put out by someone else already. Caps had posted in the 07 forum about bmoc 4 way before you did, so even if you acted like a child and stopped posting, it wouldnt make a difference because there are people here already posting that info before you. And the two of you geniuses are still missing the point, no one is disputing her info that has been posted by someone else, it is her erroneous info. And if you were able to make it through the first sentence nycop, you would see I was being nice to your girlfriend when I said she "graciously posted info" that of course was already out there, which at that point is just a RUMOR. And sadly for you nycop when you continuously ask stupid questions if whether the lt's class going in has any bearing on when the sgt's class goes in, I will be a sgt, hopefully by then your post will be more "PRODUCTIVE." And Cat, I am on no ones jockstrap, I just tend to side with people who have a little common sense, use a little critical thinking, and dont type in caps in big bold letters with poor grammar like a mongoloid.

-- Edited by MN50 at 01:51, 2008-07-04

hsgnevavail · Veteran Member

This petty stuff is crazy this is suppose to be a forum on promotional information. This forum has turned into 8th grade all over again, I cannot believe that adults are actually on this forum. Can this forum go back the way it use to be? instead of all the childish replies? your kidding me.

cat · Senior Member

THAT IS BULL **** I POSTED ALOT OF **** FIRST U *******S READ THE DATES AS WELL AS THE TIMES FOR ALLLLLL MY POSTS!!!!!!

MN50 · Senior Member

It wouldnt be childish if people on this forum knew how to take constructive criticism and listen to others opinions, as opposed to crying and saying they are not going to post recycled info because they dont like what one person is saying to them. Plus how many times can you rehash the same rumor, or ask when your list is coming out, or the next bmoc. I'll tell you what the instructors said right now, they dont know when the next list is coming out, or when the next bmoc is, or how many bmocs there will be before the new list comes out. They dont know about bmoc until two weeks prior to its start.

MN50 · Senior Member

There's one thing worst than a liar, which you are cat, is someone (cat) who cant spell and writes in a bold oversized font. This for all to see, cat posts her info, which makes everything official by the way, a day after Caps does, but I must be wrong because cat said so. http://risingstarpromotion.activeboard.com/index.spark?forumID=118185&p=3&topicID=18336142

jaggedj · Senior Member

MN50 wrote:

There's one thing worst than a liar, which you are cat, is someone (cat) who cant spell and writes in a bold oversized font. This for all to see, cat posts her info, which makes everything official by the way, a day after Caps does, but I must be wrong because cat said so. http://risingstarpromotion.activeboard.com/index.spark?forumID=118185&p=3&topicID=18336142

ha the proof is right there in black n white. I was going to show the same thing but mn50 beat me to it.also u can see when someone asks cat a question about something that the answer wasn't previously posted, cat would say she does not know. thats b/c she has no inside info!!! cat u r a poser and u have been exposed!!

-- Edited by jaggedj at 02:22, 2008-07-04

MN50 · Senior Member

This is what you get cat for not listening to what others have to say, you have now been exposed as a fraud, a liar, and having terrible grammar. I'm sure this has made you very upset and at this very moment you are thinking of a comeback which you will post tomorrow after nycop posted it.

-- Edited by MN50 at 02:27, 2008-07-04

jaggedj · Senior Member

cat wrote:

I GOT A CALL THIS MORNING AND WHAT TITO PUT OUT DAYS AGO WAS TOLD TO ME THIS MORNING THE 2008 LIST WILL BE OUT IN SEPT!!!! THIS COULD CHANGE PEOPLE BUT SO FAR THIS IS THE LATEST!

yeah Tito put the info out first right!!! now u come along and piggy back off his info like u always do when someone puts something out. LOL come on now. then u say the info can change just in case Tito is wrong! u r too funny cat,keep trying its funny to me!!!!

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that 10-10 missing isn't in my sector central......

CAT WROTE:

whatelse: you spelled believe wrong. ALL I CAN SAY IS WE SHALL SEE WE COULD BE WRONG WHO KNOWS I'M JUST PASSING ON THE INFO THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AND SO FAR I HAVE NOT PUT OUT BAD INFO YET I HAVE BEEN ON THE MONEY!! SO JUST ASK SOMEONE IN THE FORUM

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keep hope alive

CAT U HAVE THE NERVE TO CORRECT SOMEONE ON HOW THEY SPELL WORDS WHEN YOUR SPELLING IS GOD AWFUL!!AND YEAH THE INFO U PUT OUT IS GOOD CUZ U GOT IT FROM SOMEONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM.JUST LOOK ABOVE AT THE PARAGRAPH I CUT AND PASTED.BUSTED!!! cry

-- Edited by jaggedj at 05:58, 2008-07-04

jaggedj · Senior Member

transit2 Member Posts: 5 Date: Jun 19 Views: 659	hey cat do you know what list number they are going to go up to for the class going in on the 30th?????
cat Veteran Member Posts: 80 Date: Jun 19 Views: 642	NO I DON'T SORRY __________________ keep hope alive

HEY CAT WHATS WRONG?Y CANT U ANSWER THAT QUESTION?U R THE KNOW IT ALL GURU RIGHT?OH I KNOW Y...CUZ THE ANSWER WASNT PREVIOUSLY POSTED SO U HAVE NO INFO TO COPY AND CLAIM AS YOUR OWN!! I THINK ME AND MN50 MADE OUR POINT! bleh

cat · Senior Member

I HAVE NEVER WROTE ANYTHING ABOUT LIST NUMBERS SINCE I STARTED *******S

cat · Senior Member

JAGGEDJ IF SOMEONE PUT IT OUT FIRST I GIVE THEM THEIR PROPS BUT I'M GONNA SEE U SOON ENOUGH JAGGEDJ POST ALL MY STUFF THE FACTS U ****ING LIAR!!! PEOPLE READ ALL MY COMMENTS AND BE THE JUDGE!!!

brooklynbacon · Guru

If you guys have a problem with each other then keep it in private messages or better yet do a smoker. Keep this childish nonsense to yourselves or bring it to the rant.

Phil Atio · Senior Member

yeah, biatches. we need promotional info here, not this bullchit!

Lord Auxiliary · Veteran Member

-- Edited by Lord Auxiliary at 17:02, 2008-07-04

Lord Auxiliary · Veteran Member

brooklynbacon wrote:

cat, your info is pretty good most of the time and i enjoy your posts but please stop with the bold font and type 68 font. Its unneccessary and just screams immaturity.

some of us who are sight challenged appreciate FONT SIZE 68 BOLD. wink

Lord Auxiliary · Veteran Member

MN50 wrote:

First off cat and nycop80, you two need to work on your reading comprehension, perhaps nycop that is why you are 336. Secondly, I said I was not siding with jaggedj, I just said he had a valid point. The only ones who have their panties in a bunch are you two. Cat cries because someone is not in agreement with her, and nycop who is hanging off her tit begins to cry to because someone is going against his only source of info. And by the way you are posting info cat that is put out by someone else already. Caps had posted in the 07 forum about bmoc 4 way before you did, so even if you acted like a child and stopped posting, it wouldnt make a difference because there are people here already posting that info before you. And the two of you geniuses are still missing the point, no one is disputing her info that has been posted by someone else, it is her erroneous info. And if you were able to make it through the first sentence nycop, you would see I was being nice to your girlfriend when I said she "graciously posted info" that of course was already out there, which at that point is just a RUMOR. And sadly for you nycop when you continuously ask stupid questions if whether the lt's class going in has any bearing on when the sgt's class goes in, I will be a sgt, hopefully by then your post will be more "PRODUCTIVE." And Cat, I am on no ones jockstrap, I just tend to side with people who have a little common sense, use a little critical thinking, and dont type in caps in big bold letters with poor grammar like a mongoloid.

-- Edited by MN50 at 01:51, 2008-07-04

Webster defines mongoloid as "adj. (not a noun) Of or being a purported human racial classification distinguished by yellowishbrown skin color and straight black hair and including peoples indigenous to central and E Asia." yawn

-- Edited by Lord Auxiliary at 17:27, 2008-07-04

Lord Auxiliary · Veteran Member

hsgnevavail wrote:

This petty stuff is crazy this is suppose to be a forum on promotional information. This forum has turned into 8th grade all over again, I cannot believe that adults are actually on this forum. Can this forum go back the way it use to be? instead of all the childish replies? your kidding me.

"Forum on Promotional Information", you mean to tell me I've been on the wrong site all this time?