Greetings all. I understand the frustration most of you who are close must be feeling. I do not wish to share OPINIONS or false narratives so I will make this brief. I wanted to let everyone know there is no rumors of upcoming classes, no talks of upcoming classes, and no plans for upcoming classes. I can 100 percent definitively tell you the ENTIRE bmoc unit is assigned to the task force. That right there should tell you where things stand for the upcoming future. So talks of distant learning etc etc, yeah will not be happening without a leadership Unit. for everyone who wants some idea when bmoc will start up, should follow what occurs with the task force unit.
I wish to remind everyone that this is uncharted territory. The closest thing of shutting down training to occur would be 2008 and training wasnt grinder to a halt as it was this year. Lawsuits failed and lists were not extended. These are factors working against extending any list. Another huge factor is the budget. There may not be any money for promotions. But you have things going for you as well. Budget cuts will lead to overtime cuts which will probably lead to a mass exodus. Or maybe ppl will see the current job market and say no way Im leaving now. If you think this is contradicting, it is! The truth is no one knows what the future holds. 1600, 1700, extension, lawsuits. Only answer is we need to take care of ourselves and see where things land. A projected large class of recruits is being considered for July (over 1k) but this can be striped at any moment due to July budget upcoming. We just dont know what will occur but this would help your promotion needs so root for it
track future promotion rates as time goes to get a clearer answer on possible cutoff scores for exam expirations. Track when the task force is being disbanded to track future bmoc classes. Track possible future test dates in the future, if youre not promoted yet sign up! If you get promoted you will have a leg up on lt exam. Too many variables to worry about to possibly figure out the answers you most seek. Good luck to all future supervisors.
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Sunday 19th of April 2020 01:24:14 PM
GangGreenMets said
Apr 19, 2020
The only thing for sure is that promotions will continue once we go back to normal. Hopefully that is sooner rather than later.
Truthseeker said
Apr 19, 2020
Absolutely. Will probably come back at a more feverish pace as well to make up with vacancies. I heard from an executive involved w the task force that it would last 4 to 6 weeks. I dont believe any number can be accurate since we do not know how long social distancing restrictions will be around. Another important thing to think about is summer all out for crime. Will the task force be utilized for crime reduction if social distancing is eased. We need promotions, supervisors need you out there, job needs you to supervise the Cops. I know most of you studied hard and I just want you to not listen to numbers on here. No one knows the NUMBER. Track the things you can track and try to stay safe and sane!
yougonow said
Apr 19, 2020
Projecting 1200-1300 recruit class asap once thinga quell.
RBJ5154 said
Apr 19, 2020
yougonow wrote:
Projecting 1200-1300 recruit class asap once thinga quell.
Youll Be lucky to see 1000 plus gatherings until October.
Truthseeker said
Apr 19, 2020
I can tell you dcmb is preparing for 1300 recruits for July. Here are the caveats to this:
1- fiscal year budget is the biggest. Will city pay for hire is unknown until budget is passed by July 1
2- will Apd provide the applicants for such a large class. A lot of Apd was taken for the task force
3- April hire was to be 500. The 1300 number includes those 500. The class can be cancelled and you can see 0 hired, 500 hired, or upwards of 1300 hired
GangGreenMets said
Apr 19, 2020
If they give the schools the OK to start back up, putting an academy class in will be no problem.
Truthseeker said
Apr 19, 2020
Theres an academy class in now. Social distancing doesnt prevent it
GangGreenMets said
Apr 19, 2020
Truthseeker wrote:
Theres an academy class in now. Social distancing doesnt prevent it
So then why would they cancel BMOC?
Truthseeker said
Apr 19, 2020
Because entire leadership unit is assigned to covd task force. Second the job has enough sergeants lts and captains especially with training down and other admin commands out. Yes precinct guys may not feel there are enough sergeants etc but this is not a top priority and what is out there is more then capable to get the job done. Recruits remain a top priority still until money runs out.
Truthseeker said
Apr 20, 2020
Possible lt and captains class being spoken about. Possibly training to occur after all this dies down. No word on sergeants
Truthseeker said
Apr 22, 2020
There are talks to do sgt bmoc. This would involve having an actual bmoc since cops need some sort of training unlike the lts and captains. I dont have number yet and this is still not concrete as things are constantly changing
GangGreenMets said
Apr 22, 2020
Truthseeker wrote:
There are talks to do sgt bmoc. This would involve having an actual bmoc since cops need some sort of training unlike the lts and captains. I dont have number yet and this is still not concrete as things are constantly changing
Appreciate the info. Very encouraging.
TenFour16 said
Apr 22, 2020
If they really needed Sgts, they can put in a class and just use the big auditorium at the academy and just spread everyone out and use the mic to do the classes. Maybe im thinking way too much into it, lol. But it can be done. The scary thing is the budget issues that can come up. If theres no money for promotions, The list is screwed.
rookiebit_h said
Apr 22, 2020
lottta chatter about promos on the horizon 45 ish
brooklynbacon said
Apr 22, 2020
Hearing april 30th.
Truthseeker said
Apr 22, 2020
25 Capt 28 lt 50 Sgts so far all I got
Bklynsouth3020 said
Apr 22, 2020
Truthseeker wrote:
25 Capt 28 lt 50 Sgts so far all I got
I heard the exact same thing
brooklynbacon said
Apr 22, 2020
Masks in class? Social distancing?
rookiebit_h said
Apr 22, 2020
Bklynsouth3020 wrote:
Truthseeker wrote:
25 Capt 28 lt 50 Sgts so far all I got
I heard the exact same thing
weak Lt class
yougonow said
Apr 22, 2020
Hope no stupid mentoring and back to 4 week bmoc.
Truthseeker said
Apr 22, 2020
brooklynbacon wrote:
Masks in class? Social distancing?
Police academy requiring everyone to wear mask. Was there the other day so yes
Caralho said
Apr 23, 2020
So when will this tentative class go in?
Elbatigol9 said
Apr 24, 2020
No mentoring. 3 weeks bmoc
TenFour16 said
Apr 24, 2020
There is a Lt class confirmed, and also Captains. Can anyone confirm a Sgts bmoc ?
Elbatigol9 said
Apr 24, 2020
TenFour16 wrote:
There is a Lt class confirmed, and also Captains. Can anyone confirm a Sgts bmoc ?
50
Caralho said
Apr 24, 2020
Heard more than 50, can anyone confirm ?
Putt4dough said
Apr 24, 2020
Its 50 or so. Prob just 50 but maybe a few more. Think 50
Caralho said
Apr 24, 2020
When is the class going in? Will there be any mentoring or is thats done?
I-go-deep said
Apr 24, 2020
Putt4dough wrote:
Its 50 or so. Prob just 50 but maybe a few more. Think 50
Can you make up your mind, lol.
making dcas great again said
Apr 25, 2020
Ok, let's break this down. There is only three options A,B AND C
A) LESS THEN 50 PEOPLE
B) 50 PEOPLE ONLY
C) MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE
WHATS THE ANSWER, LMAO
Caralho said
Apr 25, 2020
What are the Vacancy numbers ?
Putt4dough said
Apr 25, 2020
Haha. Ok yeah I see why I got an Lol. And i deserve it. Thats ok! It is 50. But a few extras might slide in brining the total up to only a few more than 50. Is that fair?! Lol. Dont go hoping for a 80 person promotion, Caralho! Lol
Caralho said
Apr 25, 2020
Putt4dough wrote:
Haha. Ok yeah I see why I got an Lol. And i deserve it. Thats ok! It is 50. But a few extras might slide in brining the total up to only a few more than 50. Is that fair?! Lol. Dont go hoping for a 80 person promotion, Caralho! Lol
I wish! Im sure everyone on the list wishes as well. So no mentoring
TenFour16 said
Apr 25, 2020
Im hearing there is no mentoring. They should continue this.
Who can confirm.
Dahomeless1 said
Apr 25, 2020
For this promotion I am hearing no mentoring. Someone is being promoted from my command. I hope this continues.
yougonow said
Apr 25, 2020
I hope 1400 years end now. If they do a couple bigger classes it is attainable.
Elbatigol9 said
Apr 25, 2020
No mentioning and 3 weeks bmoc
BROOKLYN77 said
Apr 25, 2020
Is all this confirmed or just a rumor? No mentoring and 3 weeks BMOC?
brooklynbacon said
Apr 25, 2020
BROOKLYN77 wrote:
Is all this confirmed or just a rumor? No mentoring and 3 weeks BMOC?
Nothings confirmed until the emails/finest. However, the Lt and Capts class panned out so theres no reason to think the Sgts bmoc wont be going in.
TenFour16 said
Apr 26, 2020
Hearing a new rumor that there will be no Sgt BMOC and that there will just be a promotion and theyll be sent to commands. Who can confirm ?
Putt4dough said
Apr 26, 2020
TenFour16 wrote:
Hearing a new rumor that there will be no Sgt BMOC and that there will just be a promotion and theyll be sent to commands. Who can confirm ?
Yep. Hearing this also. Theory is- promotions up front like lieutenant, work the summer similar to an all-out/mentoring capacity as probationary sergeant and then bmoc after summer ends or when covid crisis is lifted.
fiftyfouredp said
Apr 26, 2020
so, this sounds like a good thing.
Caralho said
Apr 26, 2020
Will there be more promotions to follow these ?
brooklynbacon said
Apr 26, 2020
Caralho wrote:
Will there be more promotions to follow these ?
Hold on let me text the PC.
Caralho said
Apr 26, 2020
brooklynbacon wrote:
Caralho wrote:
Will there be more promotions to follow these ?
Hold on let me text the PC.
doosh
3rdtimetheCharm said
Apr 26, 2020
brooklynbacon wrote:
Caralho wrote:
Will there be more promotions to follow these ?
Hold on let me text the PC.
Nope. This will be the last class. Theyre cutting the list after these few get in.
Putt4dough said
Apr 26, 2020
Lol. So what yall think- finest message tomorrow for a thursday promotion?
cop said
Apr 27, 2020
vacancy count ?
rookiebit_h said
Apr 27, 2020
cop wrote:
vacancy count ?
someones gotta know .. whatever they are add 25 to Lts and 28 to sgts
Greetings all. I understand the frustration most of you who are close must be feeling. I do not wish to share OPINIONS or false narratives so I will make this brief. I wanted to let everyone know there is no rumors of upcoming classes, no talks of upcoming classes, and no plans for upcoming classes. I can 100 percent definitively tell you the ENTIRE bmoc unit is assigned to the task force. That right there should tell you where things stand for the upcoming future. So talks of distant learning etc etc, yeah will not be happening without a leadership Unit. for everyone who wants some idea when bmoc will start up, should follow what occurs with the task force unit.
I wish to remind everyone that this is uncharted territory. The closest thing of shutting down training to occur would be 2008 and training wasnt grinder to a halt as it was this year. Lawsuits failed and lists were not extended. These are factors working against extending any list. Another huge factor is the budget. There may not be any money for promotions. But you have things going for you as well. Budget cuts will lead to overtime cuts which will probably lead to a mass exodus. Or maybe ppl will see the current job market and say no way Im leaving now. If you think this is contradicting, it is! The truth is no one knows what the future holds. 1600, 1700, extension, lawsuits. Only answer is we need to take care of ourselves and see where things land.
A projected large class of recruits is being considered for July (over 1k) but this can be striped at any moment due to July budget upcoming. We just dont know what will occur but this would help your promotion needs so root for it
track future promotion rates as time goes to get a clearer answer on possible cutoff scores for exam expirations. Track when the task force is being disbanded to track future bmoc classes. Track possible future test dates in the future, if youre not promoted yet sign up! If you get promoted you will have a leg up on lt exam. Too many variables to worry about to possibly figure out the answers you most seek. Good luck to all future supervisors.
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Sunday 19th of April 2020 01:24:14 PM
The only thing for sure is that promotions will continue once we go back to normal. Hopefully that is sooner rather than later.
Absolutely. Will probably come back at a more feverish pace as well to make up with vacancies. I heard from an executive involved w the task force that it would last 4 to 6 weeks. I dont believe any number can be accurate since we do not know how long social distancing restrictions will be around. Another important thing to think about is summer all out for crime. Will the task force be utilized for crime reduction if social distancing is eased. We need promotions, supervisors need you out there, job needs you to supervise the Cops. I know most of you studied hard and I just want you to not listen to numbers on here. No one knows the NUMBER. Track the things you can track and try to stay safe and sane!
Youll Be lucky to see 1000 plus gatherings until October.
I can tell you dcmb is preparing for 1300 recruits for July. Here are the caveats to this:
1- fiscal year budget is the biggest. Will city pay for hire is unknown until budget is passed by July 1
2- will Apd provide the applicants for such a large class. A lot of Apd was taken for the task force
3- April hire was to be 500. The 1300 number includes those 500. The class can be cancelled and you can see 0 hired, 500 hired, or upwards of 1300 hired
If they give the schools the OK to start back up, putting an academy class in will be no problem.
So then why would they cancel BMOC?
Because entire leadership unit is assigned to covd task force. Second the job has enough sergeants lts and captains especially with training down and other admin commands out. Yes precinct guys may not feel there are enough sergeants etc but this is not a top priority and what is out there is more then capable to get the job done. Recruits remain a top priority still until money runs out.
Appreciate the info. Very encouraging.
I heard the exact same thing
weak Lt class
Police academy requiring everyone to wear mask. Was there the other day so yes
50
Can you make up your mind, lol.
Ok, let's break this down. There is only three options A,B AND C
A) LESS THEN 50 PEOPLE
B) 50 PEOPLE ONLY
C) MORE THAN 50 PEOPLE
WHATS THE ANSWER, LMAO
I wish! Im sure everyone on the list wishes as well. So no mentoring
Who can confirm.
Nothings confirmed until the emails/finest. However, the Lt and Capts class panned out so theres no reason to think the Sgts bmoc wont be going in.
Yep. Hearing this also. Theory is- promotions up front like lieutenant, work the summer similar to an all-out/mentoring capacity as probationary sergeant and then bmoc after summer ends or when covid crisis is lifted.
Hold on let me text the PC.
Nope. This will be the last class. Theyre cutting the list after these few get in.
vacancy count ?
someones gotta know .. whatever they are add 25 to Lts and 28 to sgts