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Why are only 1, 3, and 4 lined out?

Lucas Hobbs wrote:

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A lot of 16,17,18,19 promotion dates. Job is getting younger. Surprised that I saw a couple of 09s. Itll be interesting to see how the plays out. Thanks for adding the eligibility dates.

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not promotion dates..... those are dates that they are eligible to be promoted.... meaning 2 years in rank 

JustWonderin wrote:

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Why are only 1, 3, and 4 lined out?

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 I am trying to do the rest but it keeps resetting! Decided to just erase whoever was made already. It was just easier 

GREAT JOB! and THANK YOU! Just update as classes go in and everyone should have a better idea...thnx again

No problem. I'll update it

Lucas Hobbs wrote:

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A lot of 16,17,18,19 promotion dates. Job is getting younger. Surprised that I saw a couple of 09s. Itll be interesting to see how the plays out. Thanks for adding the eligibility dates.

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 Holy moly thats a lot of young capts...

25isthenew20 wrote:

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It's a lot of tier 3 so they have no choice but to get promoted.

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 There is no tier 3 on that list.  We are all tier 2. The next captains list will have tier 3 members.

http://home.nyc.gov/html/nycppf/html/tier_3/tier_3_retirement.shtml

"Wages include base salary, overtime, night differential, holiday pay, portal to portal and worked vacation.  If the wages earned during any year included in the period exceeds the average of the prior two years by more than 10%, the amount in excess of 10% shall be excluded."

I keep hearing that same false rumor....."Tier 3 OT is NOT pensionable."

Truth....it is pensionable.

bigfoot45 wrote:

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25isthenew20 wrote:

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It's a lot of tier 3 so they have no choice but to get promoted.

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 There is no tier 3 on that list.  We are all tier 2. The next captains list will have tier 3 members.

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 O ok. Thnx for clarifying BigFoot

sixmonthwonder wrote:

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Thank you for doing this.

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 No problem.  

papote170 wrote:

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Just a FYI !! ... # 21 is currently assigned to Bmoc

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 Done. thanks!

Doggieloverwoof wrote:

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Updated

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 Did #43 and #46 get passed over? It appears that they made it up to #48...

They never have.  They have promoted over 290 in a 4 year span once previously. They have also done over 260 once before In a four year span.  Everyone should be good.  They could potentially over promote the last 20 or 30 guys in case the list is about to expire.  Dont think they let 30 guys die On the list. 

Even so, 266 people on the list means they need to promote an average of 67 people per year over a 4-year span. So far, they are slightly above that average since they have reached that mark within the first 9-months.

E D wrote:

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Has it even been 9 months? Werent the 1st promotions in August that's when the clock starts.

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 Clock starts once the list is established not when the first class gets promoted...

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They never have.  They have promoted over 290 in a 4 year span once previously. They have also done over 260 once before In a four year span.  Everyone should be good.  They could potentially over promote the last 20 or 30 guys in case the list is about to expire.  Dont think they let 30 guys die On the list. 

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Definitely Bigfoot, can't see the job cutting a Capt's list when it has traditionally difficult to fill that rank...but as we all know, nothing is set in stone 

25isthenew20 wrote:

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bigfoot45 wrote:

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They never have.  They have promoted over 290 in a 4 year span once previously. They have also done over 260 once before In a four year span.  Everyone should be good.  They could potentially over promote the last 20 or 30 guys in case the list is about to expire.  Dont think they let 30 guys die On the list. 

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Definitely Bigfoot, can't see the job cutting a Capt's list when it has traditionally difficult to fill that rank...but as we all know, noting is set in stone 

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 And where actually is the job going to put 30 or so captains they would have to over promote? Traditionally its 47 Capt promotions a year. Just because your dealing with small number of people its still a year worth of promotions. Listen i hope the job does over promote because i have a lot of friends on the back end of that list and many of them were fighting along with us and the 9 heroes in the trenches. But reality is also reality. Its still wayy too early to tell...we should get a clearer picture by 2020.

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25isthenew20 wrote:

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bigfoot45 wrote:

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They never have.  They have promoted over 290 in a 4 year span once previously. They have also done over 260 once before In a four year span.  Everyone should be good.  They could potentially over promote the last 20 or 30 guys in case the list is about to expire.  Dont think they let 30 guys die On the list. 

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Definitely Bigfoot, can't see the job cutting a Capt's list when it has traditionally difficult to fill that rank...but as we all know, noting is set in stone 

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 And where actually is the job going to put 30 or so captains they would have to over promote? Traditionally its 47 Capt promotions a year. Just because your dealing with small number of people its still a year worth of promotions. Listen i hope the job does over promote because i have a lot of friends on the back end of that list and many of them were fighting along with us and the 9 heroes in the trenches. But reality is also reality. Its still wayy too early to tell...we should get a clearer picture by 2020.

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 They could do what they did with the 2013 Sgts exam. Over promote, then hold the next list for 6 months or so. The 13 Sgts list was for all intensive purposes done in the summer of 17. The next list didnt get activated until January of 18

25isthenew20 wrote:

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E D wrote:

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Has it even been 9 months? Werent the 1st promotions in August that's when the clock starts.

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 Clock starts once the list is established not when the first class gets promoted...

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 That is incorrect.  The clock starts the date of the first promotion.  

Theforceisstrongwiththisone wrote:

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25isthenew20 wrote:

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bigfoot45 wrote:

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They never have.  They have promoted over 290 in a 4 year span once previously. They have also done over 260 once before In a four year span.  Everyone should be good.  They could potentially over promote the last 20 or 30 guys in case the list is about to expire.  Dont think they let 30 guys die On the list. 

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Definitely Bigfoot, can't see the job cutting a Capt's list when it has traditionally difficult to fill that rank...but as we all know, noting is set in stone 

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 And where actually is the job going to put 30 or so captains they would have to over promote? Traditionally its 47 Capt promotions a year. Just because your dealing with small number of people its still a year worth of promotions. Listen i hope the job does over promote because i have a lot of friends on the back end of that list and many of them were fighting along with us and the 9 heroes in the trenches. But reality is also reality. Its still wayy too early to tell...we should get a clearer picture by 2020.

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 They can stick 2 or 3 in their respective boroughs for 2 or 3 months... this isn't unheard of.  I don't think this will even come to this, but who knows. I think they got to 65  but not 100 percent.  

bigfoot45 wrote:

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25isthenew20 wrote:

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E D wrote:

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Has it even been 9 months? Werent the 1st promotions in August that's when the clock starts.

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 Clock starts once the list is established not when the first class gets promoted...

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 That is incorrect.  The clock starts the date of the first promotion.  

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 Really? Thought it was from the date the list was established...anywho, thnx for the correction.  

JustWonderin wrote:

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Thank you for the update. Anyone know the deal with list #49 - Hector Hernandez?? He doesn't come up in the directory.

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military. 

#171 retired a year ago

Anybody notice that someone got promoted and does not appear anywhere on our list?

She was military. But whats up with only 9 captains  getting made after 7 months. I would've thought the would put in at least 15-20

Agreed, 9 is a joke; it's like why even bother? I wish someone would post the vacancies so we can have an idea....

25isthenew20 wrote:

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Agreed, 9 is a joke; it's like why even bother? I wish someone would post the vacancies so we can have an idea....

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 its simple.... no captains really retired...  its all LTs and below that left the job.  the only reason i see why capts got made is from DI promos

25isthenew20 wrote:

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Agreed, 9 is a joke; it's like why even bother? I wish someone would post the vacancies so we can have an idea....

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 The recent captains all out filled most of the vacancies. There are few, if any XO vacancies. 

IhaveNoHook wrote:

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25isthenew20 wrote:

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Agreed, 9 is a joke; it's like why even bother? I wish someone would post the vacancies so we can have an idea....

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 its simple.... no captains really retired...  its all LTs and below that left the job.  the only reason i see why capts got made is from DI promos

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 This. Capts and above were affected the least this year with vacancies. Many ran for the door after all the summer ot. No cash ot didnt force them out.