WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
JustADispute said
May 25, 2018
hopefully they cut it off at 1
QNS2BX said
May 25, 2018
delete yourself
Marc37 said
May 25, 2018
Too early to know about this . You have 4 years to wait and see . Remember a lot LT with 20 and plus will retire within the next 2-4 years plus we are going to have a big captains List . Its just a waiting game .
FranknBeans said
May 25, 2018
Smh the list ain't even out a week and were at this get a life.
2017Ltxam said
May 25, 2018
All three lists will get cut. This is a fact.
fodx said
May 25, 2018
nohook wrote:
WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
Not even kidding around, I agree with this 1000%. 200 Lts a year for 4 years equals 800 promotions. Im just below 1000 and Ive put getting promoted out of my mind pretty Much. Look at the bright side, you keep your chart days and you wont have to work 45 minutes a day for free! LMAO
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:42 AM
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:48 AM
FranknBeans said
May 25, 2018
fodx wrote:
nohook wrote:
WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
Not even kidding around, I agree with this 1000%. 200 Lts a year for 4 years equals 800 promotions. Im just below 1000 and Ive put getting promoted out of my mind pretty Much. Look at the bright side, you keep your chart days and you wont have to work 45 minutes a day for free! LMAO
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:42 AM
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:48 AM
Cant say that just yet. The list hasn't even been out for a week yet.
Also Lts whole tour is shifting work to someone else.
monkeybones said
May 25, 2018
We shall see how many 20+ year LTs retire when they have to wear a body camera. Who knows....
brooklynbacon said
May 25, 2018
FranknBeans wrote:
fodx wrote:
nohook wrote:
WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
Not even kidding around, I agree with this 1000%. 200 Lts a year for 4 years equals 800 promotions. Im just below 1000 and Ive put getting promoted out of my mind pretty Much. Look at the bright side, you keep your chart days and you wont have to work 45 minutes a day for free! LMAO
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:42 AM
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:48 AM
Cant say that just yet. The list hasn't even been out for a week yet.
Also Lts whole tour is shifting work to someone else.
So true lol. Minor job? Hey sgt do this. Very major job. Hey capt/co you need to respond.
Shotsfired said
May 25, 2018
Lol, this is a repeat of the 2011 Sgt forum. A bunch of nerds that can predict the future. The fact that you need to pass a mediocre 100 question test in the nypd to become a supervisor is not saying much. So many zeros that are supervisors.
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 04:08:07 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 05:46:33 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 05:59:30 AM
BlastLivesMatter said
May 25, 2018
Shotsfired wrote:
So many zeros that are supervisors.
This is factual.
RS2323 said
May 25, 2018
BlastLivesMatter wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
So many zeros that are supervisors.
This is factual.
Did heatmiser pass?
Leslie said
May 25, 2018
Im not sure why people insist on talking about this cut-off. Just let the subject be.. people dont want to hear it. It doesnt bother me Im in the 1st two classes but this topic never ends well. People on the cusp want to try and be positive about things and we should let them. Yes theres a clear average but you never know what the future holds. Good luck everyone
sig226 said
May 25, 2018
3 reasons why this list will go over 1000
1. 2019 is the last year of Lts current contract. No more raises from the mayor, definitely from next administration
2. Booming economy, more opportunities in private sector
3. Big captains list
I dont have inside info this is just common sense assessment.
W_T_F_ said
May 25, 2018
If the current LT list is going to get cut and people are using the law of average to calculate promotion rate, then we will also need to look at the totality of the facts which also states that approximately 7% to 10% of the people on this current list will not get promoted due to reasons such as getting jammed up, retirement, or simplily decided to not take the promotion due to other personal reasons. Therefore, it is safe to say that if this current LT list will be cut in the future, the cut off list number will be higher than 800. It would be more like around 1000, assuming that the Department will promote an average of 200 to 230 LTs per year. But again, this is just a simple mathematical calculation with lots of unknown variables. In other words, dont stress your self out so much, only time will tell if everyone will be promoted to LTs in the next 4 years. Either way, good luck to everyone and stay safe.
ohnoes said
May 25, 2018
W_T_F_ wrote:
If the current LT list is going to get cut and people are using the law of average to calculate promotion rate, then we will also need to look at the totality of the facts which also states that approximately 7% to 10% of the people on this current list will not get promoted due to reasons such as getting jammed up, retirement, or simplily decided to not take the promotion due to other personal reasons. Therefore, it is safe to say that if this current LT list will be cut in the future, the cut off list number will be higher than 800. It would be more like around 1000, assuming that the Department will promote an average of 200 to 230 LTs per year. But again, this is just a simple mathematical calculation with lots of unknown variables. In other words, dont stress your self out so much, only time will tell if everyone will be promoted to LTs in the next 4 years. Either way, good luck to everyone and stay safe.
If 92 off the new list go in in June, then assuming the historical average takes over, the test will reach list number 792.
Saying that 10% of the people would not get promoted for whatever reason I think is high but if that were true, using the current prediction for June and historical rates the list would get to number 872.
Someone here said there is something like 1600 Lieutenants on the job. Believing that there is going to be an 80% turnover in Lieutenants in the next 4 years I think is a little ambitious. I could be wrong, I don't know, and I certainly don't want to discourage anyone, but you need to be realistic.
Caralho said
May 25, 2018
Lets be realistic!!! There is no way in hell that everyone on that list is getting promoted!! The list will be cut!! Stop playing yourself if you think the list isnt going to die out!
800 and up your fine. 801 and down start studying and put more effort next time
AtomBomb said
May 25, 2018
Caralho wrote:
Lets be realistic!!! There is no way in hell that everyone on that list is getting promoted!! The list will be cut!! Stop playing yourself if you think the list isnt going to die out!
800 and up your fine. 801 and down start studying and put more effort next time
I Completely agree with your cut off predicament. I believe though that they will reach 810 which Scored an exact 80.
W_T_F_ said
May 25, 2018
Boys and girls, this is just a JOB! Its not that serious...and does not matter which rank you obtain on this job, you are still getting pay good wages and have tons of great benefits, and also a decent pension. Not many people out there in the real world can retire after 20 to 25 years of working at a job. Most of the younger people on this job can be retired in their 40s! That means if you get to live until your 70s or 80s, you will have another 30-40 years to enjoy life the way you want. So be happy, dont be stressed out with wether you will get promoted or not. No one here can predict the future.
rookiebit_h said
May 25, 2018
he did smh 70's tho
rookiebit_h said
May 25, 2018
RS2323 wrote:
BlastLivesMatter wrote:
Shotsfired wrote:
So many zeros that are supervisors.
This is factual.
Did heatmiser pass?
SMH he did.. 70's tho
AtomBomb said
May 25, 2018
He actually got in the lower 80s After all the points were added
ohnoes said
May 25, 2018
W_T_F_ wrote:
Boys and girls, this is just a JOB! Its not that serious...and does not matter which rank you obtain on this job, you are still getting pay good wages and have tons of great benefits, and also a decent pension. Not many people out there in the real world can retire after 20 to 25 years of working at a job. Most of the younger people on this job can be retired in their 40s! That means if you get to live until your 70s or 80s, you will have another 30-40 years to enjoy life the way you want. So be happy, dont be stressed out with wether you will get promoted or not. No one here can predict the future.
Agree to a point. I'm here to make as much money as possible, no other reason. If you max out OT you get to a point where you just can't make any more, so you need to get promoted to make more $. I agree it's just a job and the fringe benefits are good, but in the end it's money that counts, and promotions come with more money, I don't care about the rank.
bigfoot45 said
May 25, 2018
You are probably safe in the top 800. Just be ready to study again in three years if not. Don't think they can promote much more than 850. We'll see. The body camera argument has no relevance. 3/4 of the rank is in a detail. The remaining 1/4 can do the desk if the body cam bothers them. The biggest benefit for those on the bottom was the list coming out 3 or 4 months later then it should have. This will add at least one additional class. The three percent raise we just got will probably influence a handful of guys to leave in a year.... but thats about it. The number of LTs leaving at 20 and 25 has gone down and continues to go down. The LBA posted the attrition rate not so long ago but I don't have it handy. Anyhow, good luck everyone.
RBJ5154 said
May 25, 2018
nohook wrote:
WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
Word on the street is that youre a tool with way to much time on your hands. Hopefully youll crawl back under the rock you came from.
Wingnut said
May 27, 2018
Im slightly over 1,000 and feel it would be an absolute miracle to get promoted from this list. Oh well. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
brooklynbacon said
May 27, 2018
Wingnut wrote:
Im slightly over 1,000 and feel it would be an absolute miracle to get promoted from this list. Oh well. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Be positive. Theres a ton of people who didnt make the list and wish they were you as you definitely wont be promoted if youre not on the list.
narco26 said
May 27, 2018
I agree Im in the 900s I just dont see them hiring more then 200 Lts a year, even with body cameras Lts are always there after the situation is over what do they care. If the pba gets a decent two year contract a lot of Lts are going to wait. Just my opinion.
RBJ5154 said
May 27, 2018
Wingnut wrote:
Im slightly over 1,000 and feel it would be an absolute miracle to get promoted from this list. Oh well. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
Im not saying the list wont get cut but nobody can predict what the next 4 years will be. Any LT currently on the job with 16 plus years on will be eligible for service retirement before the list could ultimate cut. There will be plenty of vacancies in the near future.
2017Ltxam said
May 27, 2018
This was the easiest lieutenants test ever given! If youre over 800, you dont deserve to get promoted, IMO.Try harder next time!
-- Edited by 2017Ltxam on Sunday 27th of May 2018 06:51:24 PM
ohnoes said
May 27, 2018
2017Ltxam wrote:
This was the easiest lieutenants test ever given! If youre under 800, you dont deserve to get promoted, IMO.Try harder next time!
I'm betting you mean over 800?
2017Ltxam said
May 27, 2018
Yeah. Thanks lol
icons_06 said
May 27, 2018
Damn ... some harshness going on in this thread ... cant we just be happy there is a list, that youve made it and be positive about the most amount of people being made??? ... why are people so pessimistic ?? Its always negative on this site and over the years progressively gotten worst ... the time to be having this conversation is when they plan to announce a new test and the possibility of the list getting cut to determine if studying again would be worth it ... congrats to EVERYONE for making the list ...
2017Ltxam said
May 27, 2018
agreed. Well said. Good luck to all,....... lol
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
Gotta wonder about some of these *******s who are gonna be future lieutenants.
Guess what they say is true about the promotion process. If you're over 800 you don't deserve to be a lieutenant...what a bitchass thing to say.
fodx said
May 28, 2018
2017Ltxam wrote:
This was the easiest lieutenants test ever given! If youre over 800, you dont deserve to get promoted, IMO.Try harder next time!
-- Edited by 2017Ltxam on Sunday 27th of May 2018 06:51:24 PM
Spoken like a true jerkoff.
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
ok let me tell u what u want to hear. everyone will get made. Congrats
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
icons_06 wrote:
Damn ... some harshness going on in this thread ... cant we just be happy there is a list, that youve made it and be positive about the most amount of people being made??? ... why are people so pessimistic ?? Its always negative on this site and over the years progressively gotten worst ... the time to be having this conversation is when they plan to announce a new test and the possibility of the list getting cut to determine if studying again would be worth it ... congrats to EVERYONE for making the list ...
Its cause they're miserable people. And we all know miserable people just want to make others miserable to feel better about themselves
Congrats on making the list of you did. If not theres always another time or work toward that SA pay. You'll make more than any of us who passed.
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
The truth hurts
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
2017Ltxam wrote:
ok let me tell u what u want to hear. everyone will get made. Congrats
Eat a dick. It's not about telling people what they want to hear it's just about you being a bitchass.
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
Ok tough guy, didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Must be that time of the month for you
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
2017Ltxam wrote:
Ok tough guy, didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Must be that time of the month for you
It's always that time of the month to call out bitchassness when you see it.
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
Stay positive guys. Everyone will get made like franknbeans
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
I know I will I did well on the test. But I don't need to make stupid remarks about anyone on the list.
Now please go be a bitchass somewhere else. I don't have anything to gain by putting down people who didnt score as high as I did. As of right now were all still sergeants.
Oh I forgot you're one of those one way pricks.
Bloombergscum said
May 28, 2018
I was wondering if anyone had an opinion as to why, if the NYPD is seeking to diversify the higher ranks, would the department cut the LT's list? I believe I heard that the vast majority of higher ups on this job are white males. This LT list contains the future Chiefs and Inspectors of the NYPD. For example, lets say that for every band of 20 eligibles on the LT list there are 5 African-Americans. Why would the department cut the list and deny the chance for dozens of Black Sergeants to rise to the higher ranks of the department? And then do the same thing in 4 years if they cut the next list? It doesn't make sense. Everyone at Apple computer tries to talk and act like Steve Jobs. However, NY City Hall, whether you agree or disagree, does not want every uniformed Officer in the NYPD to look and act like Police Commissioner James P. O'Neill.
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:28:09 AM
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:31:11 AM
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
all you are is an internet thug. Stop talking tough on a forum. Im stating facts, bitchss. You sound like a true herb
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
Lmao none of us know the future. They may not even promote 600 then what? Ohh 600 and above don't deserve to be lieutenants? No.
Again theres nothing gained from speculation. Except self-aggrandization.
FranknBeans said
May 28, 2018
Bloombergscum wrote:
I was wondering if anyone had an opinion as to why, if the NYPD is seeking to diversify the higher ranks, would the department cut the LT's list? I believe I heard that the vast majority of higher ups on this job are white males. This LT list contains the future Chiefs and Inspectors of the NYPD. For example, lets say that for every band of 20 eligibles on the LT list there are 5 African-Americans. Why would the department cut the list and deny the chance for dozens of Black Sergeants to rise to the higher ranks of the department? And then do the same thing in 4 years if they cut the next list? It doesn't make sense. Everyone at Apple computer tries to talk and act like Steve Jobs. However, NY City Hall, whether you agree or disagree, does not want every uniformed Officer in the NYPD to look and act like Police Commissioner James P. O'Neill.
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:28:09 AM
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:31:11 AM
Except city hall would want them to at least ACT like O'neill
2017Ltxam said
May 28, 2018
Dude stfu. The job promotes 180-200 LTs a year. List is good for 4 years. Do the math.
WORD ON THE STREET. Any one with a list number 800 and higher...not gonna make it.
Another word, It is highly unlikely 1400 lts will get promoted in 4 years. Sorry, by the way my list number is betwenn 800 and up.
delete yourself
Too early to know about this . You have 4 years to wait and see . Remember a lot LT with 20 and plus will retire within the next 2-4 years plus we are going to have a big captains List . Its just a waiting game .
Not even kidding around, I agree with this 1000%. 200 Lts a year for 4 years equals 800 promotions. Im just below 1000 and Ive put getting promoted out of my mind pretty Much. Look at the bright side, you keep your chart days and you wont have to work 45 minutes a day for free! LMAO
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:42 AM
-- Edited by fodx on Friday 25th of May 2018 02:36:48 AM
Cant say that just yet. The list hasn't even been out for a week yet.
Also Lts whole tour is shifting work to someone else.
So true lol. Minor job? Hey sgt do this. Very major job. Hey capt/co you need to respond.
Lol, this is a repeat of the 2011 Sgt forum. A bunch of nerds that can predict the future. The fact that you need to pass a mediocre 100 question test in the nypd to become a supervisor is not saying much. So many zeros that are supervisors.
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 04:08:07 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 05:46:33 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Friday 25th of May 2018 05:59:30 AM
This is factual.
Did heatmiser pass?
1. 2019 is the last year of Lts current contract. No more raises from the mayor, definitely from next administration
2. Booming economy, more opportunities in private sector
3. Big captains list
I dont have inside info this is just common sense assessment.
If 92 off the new list go in in June, then assuming the historical average takes over, the test will reach list number 792.
Saying that 10% of the people would not get promoted for whatever reason I think is high but if that were true, using the current prediction for June and historical rates the list would get to number 872.
Someone here said there is something like 1600 Lieutenants on the job. Believing that there is going to be an 80% turnover in Lieutenants in the next 4 years I think is a little ambitious. I could be wrong, I don't know, and I certainly don't want to discourage anyone, but you need to be realistic.
800 and up your fine. 801 and down start studying and put more effort next time
I Completely agree with your cut off predicament. I believe though that they will reach 810 which Scored an exact 80.
he did smh 70's tho
SMH he did.. 70's tho
He actually got in the lower 80s After all the points were added
Agree to a point. I'm here to make as much money as possible, no other reason. If you max out OT you get to a point where you just can't make any more, so you need to get promoted to make more $. I agree it's just a job and the fringe benefits are good, but in the end it's money that counts, and promotions come with more money, I don't care about the rank.
You are probably safe in the top 800. Just be ready to study again in three years if not. Don't think they can promote much more than 850. We'll see. The body camera argument has no relevance. 3/4 of the rank is in a detail. The remaining 1/4 can do the desk if the body cam bothers them. The biggest benefit for those on the bottom was the list coming out 3 or 4 months later then it should have. This will add at least one additional class. The three percent raise we just got will probably influence a handful of guys to leave in a year.... but thats about it. The number of LTs leaving at 20 and 25 has gone down and continues to go down. The LBA posted the attrition rate not so long ago but I don't have it handy. Anyhow, good luck everyone.
Word on the street is that youre a tool with way to much time on your hands. Hopefully youll crawl back under the rock you came from.
Be positive. Theres a ton of people who didnt make the list and wish they were you as you definitely wont be promoted if youre not on the list.
Im not saying the list wont get cut but nobody can predict what the next 4 years will be. Any LT currently on the job with 16 plus years on will be eligible for service retirement before the list could ultimate cut. There will be plenty of vacancies in the near future.
This was the easiest lieutenants test ever given! If youre over 800, you dont deserve to get promoted, IMO.Try harder next time!
-- Edited by 2017Ltxam on Sunday 27th of May 2018 06:51:24 PM
I'm betting you mean over 800?
agreed. Well said. Good luck to all,....... lol
Guess what they say is true about the promotion process. If you're over 800 you don't deserve to be a lieutenant...what a bitchass thing to say.
Spoken like a true jerkoff.
ok let me tell u what u want to hear. everyone will get made. Congrats
Its cause they're miserable people. And we all know miserable people just want to make others miserable to feel better about themselves
Congrats on making the list of you did. If not theres always another time or work toward that SA pay. You'll make more than any of us who passed.
The truth hurts
Eat a dick. It's not about telling people what they want to hear it's just about you being a bitchass.
Ok tough guy, didnt mean to hurt your feelings. Must be that time of the month for you
It's always that time of the month to call out bitchassness when you see it.
I know I will I did well on the test. But I don't need to make stupid remarks about anyone on the list.
Now please go be a bitchass somewhere else. I don't have anything to gain by putting down people who didnt score as high as I did. As of right now were all still sergeants.
Oh I forgot you're one of those one way pricks.
I was wondering if anyone had an opinion as to why, if the NYPD is seeking to diversify the higher ranks, would the department cut the LT's list? I believe I heard that the vast majority of higher ups on this job are white males. This LT list contains the future Chiefs and Inspectors of the NYPD. For example, lets say that for every band of 20 eligibles on the LT list there are 5 African-Americans. Why would the department cut the list and deny the chance for dozens of Black Sergeants to rise to the higher ranks of the department? And then do the same thing in 4 years if they cut the next list? It doesn't make sense. Everyone at Apple computer tries to talk and act like Steve Jobs. However, NY City Hall, whether you agree or disagree, does not want every uniformed Officer in the NYPD to look and act like Police Commissioner James P. O'Neill.
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:28:09 AM
-- Edited by Bloombergscum on Monday 28th of May 2018 01:31:11 AM
all you are is an internet thug. Stop talking tough on a forum. Im stating facts, bitchss. You sound like a true herb
Again theres nothing gained from speculation. Except self-aggrandization.
Except city hall would want them to at least ACT like O'neill
Dude stfu. The job promotes 180-200 LTs a year. List is good for 4 years. Do the math.