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BONESAWisREADY said
Jan 17, 2017
I've noticed the same thing. Many questions citing incorrect answers as correct. Egregious spelling and grammatical errors. Questions with out-dated information (216 with the Aided Report going to the Command Clerk.) At this point I'm concerned that using the questions would set me back because I shouldn't be cross referencing every question good or bad. User beware.
NYPD2136 said
Jan 17, 2017
I can assure you that our questions are not rip offs of other classes and are written by myself and my partner. Additionally, if you ever see a question that is not up to date then please email us and let us know. I will gladly take a look and fix anything that needs to be fixed immediately.
2015LtTest said
Jan 17, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
Found one many errors including: improperly cited PG procedures, too many grammatical errors, and questions that dont have the proper name/title that correlate to the new interim orders (for example some questions in 216 had the correct answer as being aided worksheet instead of aided report.) Their website claims everything is updated up to IO cutoff date- 10-31-16.
Also alot of their questions are rip-offs from the key packets and probably from other schools (for example one of their 219 questions is from the 219 key packet, page 43, question #29. They even used the same location- Hamptons lol).
I would advise you not use bluelineleaders or if you do, be sure to cross-reference every question (even the ones you got right) with the actual patrol guide.
Never heard of them. Always be wary of these fly by nights that are run by anonymous people. These people can't even attach their name/list # to their "product". lol
NYPD2136 said
Jan 17, 2017
You can follow Bluelineleaders on Facebook or Instagram. We stand behind our product.
TiNmAn said
Jan 17, 2017
I'm not taking any sides nor have I used their questions in the past but I would not be quick to say that certain questions were taken from a particular school because a lot of the schools use the exact questions from previous exams. So certain questions may look similar.
NYPD2136 said
Jan 17, 2017
I agree, and like I said I can assure everyone that we do not rip off of any schools. We write our own questions, from our own experiences taking the past exams. We look to hit certain areas they have tested, mimic their wording, style and structure.
bignutz88 said
Jan 17, 2017
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bignutz88 said
Feb 17, 2017
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hairbag level - expert said
Feb 17, 2017
Nice catch and good post bignutz. If the rising star has their work copyrighted, they prob have a pretty good case for plagiarized / intellectual property theft. All blue line did was change order of answers and hope nobody would notice lmao. Shameful.
DeezNutz said
Feb 17, 2017
That's why it's always a good idea to stick with one of the three which is known and trusted.
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bignutz88 said
Feb 18, 2017
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If I were the other schools that were ripped off, I'd be all over them with a lawsuit and copyright infringement. How low can you pieces of garbage go? Stop being dishonorable and disgraceful, your bad reputation will follow you from here on out. UNREAL......SMH
Lieutenantorbust said
Feb 21, 2017
Let the forum be the judge! Bignutz and others, post more pics of their questions.
cat said
Feb 21, 2017
Lieutenantorbust wrote:
Let the forum be the judge! Bignutz and others, post more pics of their questions.
This! It's time for a tribunal. Post dem pics! Lol
hey lieutenantorbust aren't going to all 3 school? You should have all the materials then. Lol
bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
204-03
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
204-14
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
203-02
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
Another flag question
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
Cant make this stuff up.
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
Frauds!
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
Blatant theft...
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
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bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
Thats it for now. I need to study lol..
Be advised, what you see is only from the Rising Star questions PG 203 and 204. I didnt even post stuff from the other RS questions or The Key.
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cat said
Feb 21, 2017
From what I've heard from key students their rip-off is more blatant. At least with RS they changed the names a bit, for the key they lifted it word for word. lol. Can anyone confirm? Anyway, I haven't seen their stuff so I'll hold my judgement til then, but the only thing I find suspicious are stuff like this... "rolled folded his vest"...
it looks like they copied the question and then went back to change some of the wording around to make it not obvious but forgot to remove the old wording that's why it's "rolled folded"
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hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
NYPD2136 wrote:
I can assure you that our questions are not rip offs of other classes and are written by myself and my partner. Additionally, if you ever see a question that is not up to date then please email us and let us know. I will gladly take a look and fix anything that needs to be fixed immediately.
Yea ok. Look at the two pics below (an additional to the ones I posted above), you forgot to remove the number 28 which corresponds to the same question you copied from in Rising Star. You should take down your website now..
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Just wow.....Eze on the air? That is unbelievable proof. Give Bignutz his specialist shield!!
goose-eggs said
Feb 21, 2017
Bignutz getting promoted to 4th grade detective
hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
I'd love to see Nypd1236 defend himself against the latest pic about the #28 that Nutz posted
bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
goose-eggs wrote:
Bignutz getting promoted to 4th grade detective
If I post more, will you ensure I get promoted to 3rd grade detective?
cat said
Feb 21, 2017
You better post them quick. I bet these guys are working hard scrubbing their questions. Lol. Wow! That's just the first few procedures and just one school. It looks like they ripped off all 3 schools.
That is nearly word for word the same! The "28" however on their questions 9 is...just...wow.
goose-eggs said
Feb 21, 2017
bignutz88 wrote:
goose-eggs wrote:
Bignutz getting promoted to 4th grade detective
If I post more, will you ensure I get promoted to 3rd grade detective?
SA cop
bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
cat wrote:
You better post them quick. I bet these guys are working hard scrubbing their questions. Lol.
The numbered questions are no longer there.
Has anyone done a whois query to see who the website is registered to?
hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
Eze on the air?! They're stealing from you guys!!
bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
hairbag level - expert wrote:
Eze on the air?! They're stealing from you guys!!
Eze is fully aware of the situation....
hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
I thought cops were supposed to have integrity, it just pisses me off. Makes it worse that they're doing it to another fellow cop...smh. God only knows how many hours RS put into formulating thousands of original questions.
eze said
Feb 21, 2017
Thank you for uncovering this. This is clearly our questions! They didn't even bother editing them properly. The questions that they stole are not "re-writes" so they can't even use that as a defense. The same exact numbering with OUR question "28" and their question 9 that starts out with "28" is without a doubt evidence that they lifted our material.
Blueline leaders, cease and desist from taking any more orders immediately! Do not resume operations until you have purged your question bank of all our questions--and I don't mean just "re-editing" them. This is your warning.
Dr Feet said
Feb 21, 2017
I would say whoever these thieving scum are, they are in BIG trouble:
Copyright Infringement Penalties
Copyright infringement is the act of violating any of a copyright owners exclusive rights granted by the federal Copyright Act. There are three elements that must be in place in order for the infringement to occur.
The copyright holder must have a valid copyright.
The person who is allegedly infringing must have access to the copyrighted work.
The duplication of the copyrighted work must be outside the exceptions.
The legal penalties for copyright infringement are:
Infringer pays the actual dollar amount of damages and profits.
The law provides a range from $200 to $150,000 for each work infringed.
Infringer pays for all attorneys fees and court costs.
The Court can issue an injunction to stop the infringing acts.
The Court can impound the illegal works.
The infringer can go to jail.
hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
eze wrote:
Thank you for uncovering this. This is clearly our questions! They didn't even bother editing them properly. The questions that they stole are not "re-writes" so they can't even use that as a defense. The same exact numbering with OUR question "28" and their question 9 that starts out with "28" is without a doubt evidence that they lifted our material.
Blueline leaders, cease and desist from taking any more orders immediately! Do not resume operations until you have purged your question bank of all our questions--and I don't mean just "re-editing" them. This is your warning.
Well said. I wouldn't be in bmoc today without RS at home studying.
Dr Feet said
Feb 21, 2017
A $150K fine per question, and possible jail time! And to think these humps are one of "us" in blue? Supposedly our brothers.....just disgusting! SMH
eze said
Feb 21, 2017
Blueline leaders has agreed to the following starting Feb. 22. 2017:
1. A 100% refund to all Blueline Lieutenant exam students
2. They will purge their data bank of all questions copied from Rising Star and rewrite new ones
3. They anticipate that this will take a few months and once done they will resume operations.
Tony and I welcome healthy competition; the more schools out there the better the overall product becomes. However, we would hope that anyone looking to enter this market be a little more conscientious and put the proper time and effort into creating material for their students. With this said, Tony and I have been assured that the "question writer" responsible for this will no longer be part of Blueline leaders. Tony and I have accepted these terms and we would just like to thank all of you for your support--especially Bignutz88.
Bignutz88, you will never have to pay for another Rising Star course again! (this means you have to out yourself to me and Tony. lol)
Dr Feet said
Feb 21, 2017
Ed, I've known you and Tony for some time now....you are both gentlemen and very helpful, with the best material out there. However, you guys are way too kind, IMO. What BluleLine Leaders did was sooooo blatant and dishonorable. I personally would've crushed them. You guys are gents! Glad to see you won't continue to be ripped off by your own "brothers". SMH
hairbag level - expert said
Feb 21, 2017
eze wrote:
Blueline leaders has agreed to the following starting Feb. 22. 2017:
1. A 100% refund to all Blueline Lieutenant exam students
2. They will purge their data bank of all questions copied from Rising Star and rewrite new ones
3. They anticipate that this will take a few months and once done they will resume operations.
Tony and I welcome healthy competition; the more schools out there the better the overall product becomes. However, we would hope that anyone looking to enter this market be a little more conscientious and put the proper time and effort into creating material for their students. With this said, Tony and I have been assured that the "question writer" responsible for this will no longer be part of Blueline leaders. Tony and I have accepted these terms and we would just like to thank all of you for your support--especially Bignutz88.
Bignutz88, you will never have to pay for another Rising Star course again! (this means you have to out yourself to me and Tony. lol)
Awesome. A real brother in blue right there!
bignutz88 said
Feb 21, 2017
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BONESAWisREADY said
Feb 21, 2017
The resolution is beyond generous and a respectable move. Ed and Tony, you guys are stand up and are the better for this. It's a shame for all of us cops who used this program for the last several months who have been duped into using the same material twice. I have to admit I'm pretty pissed.
bigfoot45 said
Feb 21, 2017
Their whole operation is a joke. You do it the right way from the beginning or you don't do it at all.
goose-eggs said
Feb 21, 2017
They'll probably rebrand and come back under a new name. They lost all credibility . Facebook page is still up though
bignutz88 said
Feb 22, 2017
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-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:39:42 PM
I can assure you that our questions are not rip offs of other classes and are written by myself and my partner. Additionally, if you ever see a question that is not up to date then please email us and let us know. I will gladly take a look and fix anything that needs to be fixed immediately.
Never heard of them. Always be wary of these fly by nights that are run by anonymous people. These people can't even attach their name/list # to their "product". lol
You can follow Bluelineleaders on Facebook or Instagram. We stand behind our product.
I agree, and like I said I can assure everyone that we do not rip off of any schools. We write our own questions, from our own experiences taking the past exams. We look to hit certain areas they have tested, mimic their wording, style and structure.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:40:42 PM
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:41:00 PM
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:42:25 PM
That's why it's always a good idea to stick with one of the three which is known and trusted.
-- Edited by DeezNutz on Friday 17th of February 2017 09:31:39 PM
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:41:32 PM
If I were the other schools that were ripped off, I'd be all over them with a lawsuit and copyright infringement. How low can you pieces of garbage go? Stop being dishonorable and disgraceful, your bad reputation will follow you from here on out. UNREAL......SMH
This! It's time for a tribunal. Post dem pics! Lol
hey lieutenantorbust aren't going to all 3 school? You should have all the materials then. Lol
edit edit edit edit
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204-03
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:42:42 PM
204-14
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:42:57 PM
203-02
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:43:12 PM
Another flag question
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:43:26 PM
Cant make this stuff up.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:43:41 PM
Frauds!
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:43:54 PM
Blatant theft...
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:44:08 PM
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:44:22 PM
Thats it for now. I need to study lol..
Be advised, what you see is only from the Rising Star questions PG 203 and 204. I didnt even post stuff from the other RS questions or The Key.
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:44:40 PM
From what I've heard from key students their rip-off is more blatant. At least with RS they changed the names a bit, for the key they lifted it word for word. lol. Can anyone confirm? Anyway, I haven't seen their stuff so I'll hold my judgement til then, but the only thing I find suspicious are stuff like this... "rolled folded his vest"...
it looks like they copied the question and then went back to change some of the wording around to make it not obvious but forgot to remove the old wording that's why it's "rolled folded"
-
-- Edited by cat on Tuesday 21st of February 2017 11:48:14 AM
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:45:16 PM
Just wow.....Eze on the air? That is unbelievable proof. Give Bignutz his specialist shield!!
If I post more, will you ensure I get promoted to 3rd grade detective?
That is nearly word for word the same! The "28" however on their questions 9 is...just...wow.
SA cop
The numbered questions are no longer there.
Has anyone done a whois query to see who the website is registered to?
Eze is fully aware of the situation....
I thought cops were supposed to have integrity, it just pisses me off. Makes it worse that they're doing it to another fellow cop...smh. God only knows how many hours RS put into formulating thousands of original questions.
Blueline leaders, cease and desist from taking any more orders immediately! Do not resume operations until you have purged your question bank of all our questions--and I don't mean just "re-editing" them. This is your warning.
I would say whoever these thieving scum are, they are in BIG trouble:
Copyright Infringement Penalties
Copyright infringement is the act of violating any of a copyright owners exclusive rights granted by the federal Copyright Act. There are three elements that must be in place in order for the infringement to occur.
The legal penalties for copyright infringement are:
Well said. I wouldn't be in bmoc today without RS at home studying.
A $150K fine per question, and possible jail time! And to think these humps are one of "us" in blue? Supposedly our brothers.....just disgusting! SMH
1. A 100% refund to all Blueline Lieutenant exam students
2. They will purge their data bank of all questions copied from Rising Star and rewrite new ones
3. They anticipate that this will take a few months and once done they will resume operations.
Tony and I welcome healthy competition; the more schools out there the better the overall product becomes. However, we would hope that anyone looking to enter this market be a little more conscientious and put the proper time and effort into creating material for their students. With this said, Tony and I have been assured that the "question writer" responsible for this will no longer be part of Blueline leaders. Tony and I have accepted these terms and we would just like to thank all of you for your support--especially Bignutz88.
Bignutz88, you will never have to pay for another Rising Star course again! (this means you have to out yourself to me and Tony. lol)
Ed, I've known you and Tony for some time now....you are both gentlemen and very helpful, with the best material out there. However, you guys are way too kind, IMO. What BluleLine Leaders did was sooooo blatant and dishonorable. I personally would've crushed them. You guys are gents! Glad to see you won't continue to be ripped off by your own "brothers". SMH
Awesome. A real brother in blue right there!
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:46:05 PM
Their whole operation is a joke. You do it the right way from the beginning or you don't do it at all.
edit edit edit edit
-- Edited by bignutz88 on Tuesday 1st of August 2017 09:46:22 PM