I never posted here before but I have been reading this forum since day one like a EDP. Just like everyone else this is torture for me. I am sitting on a 66 and want this to come to an end already. Does anyone know if the questions that were mentioned in prior posts are still possible??
1, 78, 86, 106 & 115 as throwouts
7, 10, 45 & 54 as double/triples
Again, I have zero intel.. this is just from prior posts. I was hoping some one may have any thing to possibly confirm or deny this. Ondeair?
EDPs R Fun said
Jan 8, 2016
I don't think those numbers are accurate
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
I was told 106 was rejected as a throwout....I will see how accurate that is in a few weeks...but if true..then it will prob be low throwout numbers
Su Madre 24 said
Jan 8, 2016
Sgt2be didn't you also hear that 78 wasn't changed as well?
TiNmAn said
Jan 8, 2016
I don't think 9 is the number nor will all of those numbers be changed. The longer it drags out The more hope I lose with the number of changes.
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
Wat was that question again?
TiNmAn said
Jan 8, 2016
Cims was 78
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
I didn't hear anything...there was nothing wrong w the question...it was NOT a typo....
Bklyn net said
Jan 8, 2016
just wondering anyone know the reason 106 would be good ?
Bigguy69 said
Jan 8, 2016
what was wrong with 7 and 115?
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
7 in my opinion will be a change if not throwout...
Bklyn net said
Jan 8, 2016
did 7 have to do with the in basket or pg knowledge?
Bigguy69 said
Jan 8, 2016
Don't remember the question just a couple of people who protested it as a throwout. If not a throwout and it's a change what you think would be the double/triple ?
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
7 was a inbasket dealing w a post change
Bklyn net said
Jan 8, 2016
I heard it was good because the Ts guy was on meal not sure what to think
Jabronijoe29 said
Jan 8, 2016
How is 106 not a throwout... The correct answer as per dcas was after the cutoff date clearly
DETSGT said
Jan 8, 2016
Don't think anything was wrong with the Cims question.
But 45 should definitely be a throw out.
Just my opinion. In the end dcas will do what dcas wants to do.
Lu515 said
Jan 8, 2016
How many changes in total?
sixmonthwonder said
Jan 8, 2016
Jabronijoe29 wrote:
How is 106 not a throwout... The correct answer as per dcas was after the cutoff date clearly
Agreed, I got 106 correct because I got lucky, but if 106 isn't a throwout then nothing was a throwout. That was hands down, 100% wrong according to the cutoff date.
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
dcas said TOO BAD...they stated MOST CORRECT....and guess what...the answer was MOST CORRECT
DETSGT said
Jan 8, 2016
I don't think anything is written in stone with dcas. The ops orders and ccrg were not on the noe but they look like their sticking.
In the end what is our recourse if we feel wronged or cheated by dcas? Lawsuit, media attention, crying? Nothing will change what they decide to do.
ondeeair2321 said
Jan 8, 2016
At this point it really could go anyway. No one knows. About 19 more days we ll have a definite answer.
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
Amen! 19 changes submitted...I think 5 to 19 changes are in play..I expect to see 5
Slate said
Jan 8, 2016
Back to where we were half a year ago...
Btw, anyone who's familiar with this testing process, can Dcas summon the original test writers and have them explain protested questions?
Slate said
Jan 8, 2016
If that's the case, we are looking at minimum changes
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
Yes slate
sgt2be said
Jan 8, 2016
Capt went down there
Slate said
Jan 8, 2016
0-5 at most, just my opinion
Endthemisery said
Jan 8, 2016
Ok thanks everyone..I guess the only thing we can do is continue waiting
wisecop said
Jan 8, 2016
sgt2be wrote:
Amen! 19 changes submitted...I think 5 to 19 changes are in play..I expect to see 5
I agree with sgt2be, the majority coming out the inbasket and at least two on the rest of the test.
-- Edited by wisecop on Friday 8th of January 2016 11:30:08 PM
Cathetel said
Jan 8, 2016
wisecop wrote:
sgt2be wrote:
Amen! 19 changes submitted...I think 5 to 19 changes are in play..I expect to see 5
I agree with sgt2be, the majority coming out the inbasket and at least two on the rest of the test.
-- Edited by wisecop on Friday 8th of January 2016 11:30:08 PM
Put it this way, if there are people with political connections that scored 60 or better and an entity is pushing a certain person or persons which happens all the time in civil service then we're looking at signifcant amount of changes. If none of that is going on, most are taking this test again in early 2017.
The Choas theory or butterly effect is what all of us are experiencing. Small causes having large effects. Captain Pony tail has altered the lives of many sergeants who should have passed under fair conditions and now it boils down to pure luck for many.
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:00:18 AM
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:06:35 AM
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:09:22 AM
Su Madre 24 said
Jan 9, 2016
I agree with Cathetel in the statement of a test in early 2017. Since the new norm will be longer study times...I wouldn't be surprised they announced a new test by April or May of this year!!
DRPapi1983 said
Jan 9, 2016
I think we will all be surprised with this list's outcome ,...the wait is almost over.
LtTest2015 said
Jan 9, 2016
Sgt2be what 5 would you think r high probabilities of being changed? I feel you may know a little more then the rest of us lol?
sgt2be said
Jan 9, 2016
I dont..I have heard from 2 good sources that number 1 is throwout....I also heard 7 was being talked about as possible throwout....those are the only 2 I heard...106 I was told no throwout based on it was most correct
Bklyn net said
Jan 9, 2016
but was it ? I must be missing something on 106
sgt2be said
Jan 9, 2016
Yes it was the most correct answer...even though it was not all correct
Bigguy69 said
Jan 9, 2016
sgt2be wrote:
I dont..I have heard from 2 good sources that number 1 is throwout....I also heard 7 was being talked about as possible throwout....those are the only 2 I heard...106 I was told no throwout based on it was most correct
Did you protest these 2 questions ? If so doubles or to ?
sgt2be said
Jan 9, 2016
I did not protest these....I don't think 106 will be changed...I do think 1 will be throwout...those are the ones I'm pretty confident about. Again this process is so secret it's hard to ever be sure of anything
sixmonthwonder said
Jan 9, 2016
sgt2be wrote:
Yes it was the most correct answer...even though it was not all correct
Why was it more correct than making contact with the isolated threat, or whatever the wording was? I sat there for 10 minutes trying to decide between them.
sgt2be said
Jan 9, 2016
6th month....I'd have to look at it again...I believe if I remember correct the other choices wrre all things the wrong actor was supposed to do...meaning if they wrre asking about patrol supervisor then those other choices dealt w first supervisor on scene
Bigguy69 said
Jan 9, 2016
Dcas is playing hardball, even with this small list. A lot of us including myself were expecting a throw out bonanza. I'm shaking in my boots with a 69.. 67 and below your toast .
ondeeair2321 said
Jan 9, 2016
U may be right. But the puzzle of this is that it could go either way. Absolutely could. It's not even wishful thinking it's just the fact that dcas is a mystery in itself. We might see a really small list which yes means another exam coming up. I would guess late 2017 bc they ll have more newly promoted sgts meaning more exam takers. Or, we could have a repeat of 2011. The ones they threw out there weren't dead on convincing to s. U just never know---with this it's anyone's guess. It's very hush hush this guy has dropped log after log on this exam as well----that doesn't help the flow.
ondeeair2321 said
Jan 9, 2016
I tend to agree with sgt2be at this point. But, we could be cometely wrong on all make this thing. I'm not holding my breath for myself at a 65 at this point.
DOA said
Jan 9, 2016
Cathetel wrote:
The Choas theory or butterly effect is what all of us are experiencing. Small causes having large effects. Captain Pony tail has altered the lives of many sergeants who should have passed under fair conditions and now it boils down to pure luck for many.
I agree with your post but the butterfly effect is when an even infinitely small variations creates huge changes to a system. This was not that. This was a fundamental variation. This guy is not a butterfly. He is Mothra!!! I've heard a lot of war stories about Capt V since this started. It doesn't matter if the person was a subordinate, colleague or supervisor, they all say everything this guy touches is a complete **** show. I'm more annoyed at the people on this job who put this idiot in a position to have such a profound, negative affect on so many careers. He shouldnt be a duty capt or shoe fly for the same reason. The extent of this guy's responsibilities shouldn't exceed polishing spent shell casings in an isolated, unheated trailer at Rodman's Neck!
Sarge said
Jan 9, 2016
There is absolutely no way 106 is not a throw out. Its not even the most correct. If someone asked you a question on what the colors of the rainbow were and the options said red yellow green and black, when then you absolutely know its an incorrect answer. There is no ifs ands or buts about this question, if its not a throwout then this test is more rigged than a democratic election....
TurdBurglar said
Jan 9, 2016
ondeeair2321 wrote:
U may be right. But the puzzle of this is that it could go either way. Absolutely could. It's not even wishful thinking it's just the fact that dcas is a mystery in itself. We might see a really small list which yes means another exam coming up. I would guess late 2017 bc they ll have more newly promoted sgts meaning more exam takers. Or, we could have a repeat of 2011. The ones they threw out there weren't dead on convincing to s. U just never know---with this it's anyone's guess. It's very hush hush this guy has dropped log after log on this exam as well----that doesn't help the flow.
Explain how the guy dropped log after log about the exam... he wrote this piece of garbage exam.. what logs is he dropping?
bigfoot45 said
Jan 9, 2016
Bigguy69 wrote:
Dcas is playing hardball, even with this small list. A lot of us including myself were expecting a throw out bonanza. I'm shaking in my boots with a 69.. 67 and below your toast .
So if I read between the lines here, it sounds like 2 or 3 changes.
Sarge said
Jan 9, 2016
bigfoot45 wrote:
Bigguy69 wrote:
Dcas is playing hardball, even with this small list. A lot of us including myself were expecting a throw out bonanza. I'm shaking in my boots with a 69.. 67 and below your toast .
So if I read between the lines here, it sounds like 2 or 3 changes.
I say 19, i dont see them straying too far from what the tvb recommended....they never have in the past.
Devil Dog said
Jan 9, 2016
Sarge wrote:
bigfoot45 wrote:
Bigguy69 wrote:
Dcas is playing hardball, even with this small list. A lot of us including myself were expecting a throw out bonanza. I'm shaking in my boots with a 69.. 67 and below your toast .
So if I read between the lines here, it sounds like 2 or 3 changes.
I say 19, i dont see them straying too far from what the tvb recommended....they never have in the past.
Did tvb even reccomend 19 changes?? Initial reports here were 12 were submitted.
I never posted here before but I have been reading this forum since day one like a EDP. Just like everyone else this is torture for me. I am sitting on a 66 and want this to come to an end already. Does anyone know if the questions that were mentioned in prior posts are still possible??
1, 78, 86, 106 & 115 as throwouts
7, 10, 45 & 54 as double/triples
Again, I have zero intel.. this is just from prior posts. I was hoping some one may have any thing to possibly confirm or deny this. Ondeair?
But 45 should definitely be a throw out.
Just my opinion. In the end dcas will do what dcas wants to do.
How many changes in total?
Agreed, I got 106 correct because I got lucky, but if 106 isn't a throwout then nothing was a throwout. That was hands down, 100% wrong according to the cutoff date.
In the end what is our recourse if we feel wronged or cheated by dcas? Lawsuit, media attention, crying? Nothing will change what they decide to do.
Btw, anyone who's familiar with this testing process, can Dcas summon the original test writers and have them explain protested questions?
Capt went down there
I agree with sgt2be, the majority coming out the inbasket and at least two on the rest of the test.
-- Edited by wisecop on Friday 8th of January 2016 11:30:08 PM
Put it this way, if there are people with political connections that scored 60 or better and an entity is pushing a certain person or persons which happens all the time in civil service then we're looking at signifcant amount of changes. If none of that is going on, most are taking this test again in early 2017.
The Choas theory or butterly effect is what all of us are experiencing. Small causes having large effects. Captain Pony tail has altered the lives of many sergeants who should have passed under fair conditions and now it boils down to pure luck for many.
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:00:18 AM
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:06:35 AM
-- Edited by Cathetel on Saturday 9th of January 2016 12:09:22 AM
Did you protest these 2 questions ? If so doubles or to ?
Why was it more correct than making contact with the isolated threat, or whatever the wording was? I sat there for 10 minutes trying to decide between them.
I agree with your post but the butterfly effect is when an even infinitely small variations creates huge changes to a system. This was not that. This was a fundamental variation. This guy is not a butterfly. He is Mothra!!! I've heard a lot of war stories about Capt V since this started. It doesn't matter if the person was a subordinate, colleague or supervisor, they all say everything this guy touches is a complete **** show. I'm more annoyed at the people on this job who put this idiot in a position to have such a profound, negative affect on so many careers. He shouldnt be a duty capt or shoe fly for the same reason. The extent of this guy's responsibilities shouldn't exceed polishing spent shell casings in an isolated, unheated trailer at Rodman's Neck!
There is absolutely no way 106 is not a throw out. Its not even the most correct. If someone asked you a question on what the colors of the rainbow were and the options said red yellow green and black, when then you absolutely know its an incorrect answer. There is no ifs ands or buts about this question, if its not a throwout then this test is more rigged than a democratic election....
Explain how the guy dropped log after log about the exam... he wrote this piece of garbage exam.. what logs is he dropping?
So if I read between the lines here, it sounds like 2 or 3 changes.
I say 19, i dont see them straying too far from what the tvb recommended....they never have in the past.
Did tvb even reccomend 19 changes?? Initial reports here were 12 were submitted.