Are the research questions pre-selected before the test? Does DCAS have the ability to choose the questions post test to determine size of a list?
Uknowme said
Apr 23, 2015
I don't think anyone knows the answer to this.
ondeeair2321 said
Apr 23, 2015
before the test. its an integrity issue--and i ve been told this as a fact. if u dont believe me im sure BRAT or someone else can cofirm.
Suckerpunched said
Apr 24, 2015
What is the purpose of research questions...what are they trying to gauge?
Anybody?
MUD DUCK said
Apr 26, 2015
I'm curious if others on past exams were afforded the same aount of time to answer 100 questions compared to 120.
fodx said
Apr 26, 2015
I think the purpose of research quesations is to give them the ability to manipulate the size of the list as they please. If its too small they can make it bigger and vise versa. I think its a joke but obviously they can do whatever they want.
sixmonthwonder said
Apr 29, 2015
Does anyone else think the research questions were probably the ground ball ones that were word for word from the Key App or Elite?
Junius78 said
Apr 29, 2015
Yes, i believe that was probably that Captain's slap in the face to the promotional courses... Put their questions in there and make them research
sixmonthwonder said
Apr 29, 2015
I guess that's good in a way because we can get some of his weird, left field questions thrown out (hopefully).
sig226 said
Apr 29, 2015
If thats the case then list will be much smaller. Whoever passed now-thats the list
ondeeair2321 said
Apr 29, 2015
yes. those from the packets will not count
Su Madre 24 said
Apr 29, 2015
How many you guys believe came from the packets?
Jabronijoe29 said
Apr 29, 2015
I saw atleast 4-5 exact from 2011
ondeeair2321 said
Apr 29, 2015
yes. about that. and they are def throw outs.
bigfoot45 said
Apr 29, 2015
Do you remember what numbers those questions were? Isn't the point of research questions to see if they are good to ask on a future exam? If that's the case they should count for us.
Jabronijoe29 said
Apr 29, 2015
I wish i could remember the numbers.. But i know the questions were verbatim from the key rewrites as well
IShredMajors said
Apr 29, 2015
I agree with bigfoot. Just because they were old questions doesn't necessarily mean they are throw outs. I remember from my Sergeant's Exam, some of the questions came from the Key Rewrites. That exam was in 2009, before they had these research questions. I remember specifically the flashlight question and the tattoo question were asked on multiple exams in basically the same form.
Jabronijoe29 said
Apr 29, 2015
Tru.... But these questions were not changed... Same wording and all... Hoping they count cuz i got them right prob lol
Junius78 said
Apr 29, 2015
Equipment questions and tattoo questions are basic questions that will be asked on almost every test. I wouldnt compare them to the questions that are most likely research on this exam.
IShredMajors said
Apr 29, 2015
I still don't understand why it makes sense to research something that has already been asked. Isn't the point of research to do something that hasn't been done and monitor the results? They already know how students react to those questions since they have been used already.
Ask people who took the Captain's Exams. Some questions are verbatim from prior exams. This is not an NYPD specific phenomenon either. The SAT, LSAT, etc. all have a tendency to copy and paste certain questions verbatim from time to time. It is a standard practice for them, and they're considered easy questions for people who study.
Everyone is assuming they're research, but has anyone given any justification for that assumption? I'm putting my money on those counting, we will see soon enough when we go to the protest.
-- Edited by IShredMajors on Wednesday 29th of April 2015 08:57:13 PM
Junius78 said
Apr 29, 2015
Ishredmajors, I pray you are right, being that i got them all correct. I wasnt aware that questions were recycled on exams.
IShredMajors said
Apr 29, 2015
The only thing I didn't mention is the Captain Insano factor, which could prove me wrong. I hope not though!
TiNmAn said
Apr 30, 2015
I'm pretty sure those were the research questions. I believe those were in the most recent Capt exam. However I thought these research questions would be so that DCAS would have a pool of questions for future exams. Has anyone else hear something similar?
TransitSucks said
May 1, 2015
i heard yano saying about creating a pool for future exams. but i think the research questions is a way to give he exam a curve if needed.
Are the research questions pre-selected before the test? Does DCAS have the ability to choose the questions post test to determine size of a list?
What is the purpose of research questions...what are they trying to gauge?
Anybody?
Do you remember what numbers those questions were? Isn't the point of research questions to see if they are good to ask on a future exam? If that's the case they should count for us.
I agree with bigfoot. Just because they were old questions doesn't necessarily mean they are throw outs. I remember from my Sergeant's Exam, some of the questions came from the Key Rewrites. That exam was in 2009, before they had these research questions. I remember specifically the flashlight question and the tattoo question were asked on multiple exams in basically the same form.
I still don't understand why it makes sense to research something that has already been asked. Isn't the point of research to do something that hasn't been done and monitor the results? They already know how students react to those questions since they have been used already.
Ask people who took the Captain's Exams. Some questions are verbatim from prior exams. This is not an NYPD specific phenomenon either. The SAT, LSAT, etc. all have a tendency to copy and paste certain questions verbatim from time to time. It is a standard practice for them, and they're considered easy questions for people who study.
Everyone is assuming they're research, but has anyone given any justification for that assumption? I'm putting my money on those counting, we will see soon enough when we go to the protest.
-- Edited by IShredMajors on Wednesday 29th of April 2015 08:57:13 PM
The only thing I didn't mention is the Captain Insano factor, which could prove me wrong. I hope not though!
What date it's the protest session.