What course options do we have this time around? Is the key still doing live classes? Is Misfud teaching? I know he said he would not since he was promoted. Is Yanosiks course live or online only this time, is the live class any good, any info will be appreciated! Any courses with live classes in Suffolk county?

I will be writing the stuff for the Police Academy on-line material........no in-person classes, just online

Thanks, I will def read your materials, I just need a live class, makes me commit and not slack off.

The key just posted their schedule

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I'll be taking the key.  Here we go again.

stuntman1 wrote:

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I'll be doing Elite, The Key, Rising Star, academy material, and cop cards (like last time). Just to name a few

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 But all of that did not work for you the last time.  All that material with different teaching styles could confuse you.

Try focusing on your favorite course with the Police Academy material and stick to it.  You will definately make the list.  

Good luck !!

Mifsud is still teaching with The Key.

I'm not happy that the key isn't providing a hard copy of the patrol guide.

On Point Info wrote:

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Mifsud is still teaching with The Key.

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 Do you know which day?

what list number they up to with the 2011 exam?

1161 out of 1663 as of July 28th promotion.

The key wants $100 more for home study? How does that make sense?  All these schools raised their prices too..  Greedy bastards!

Police academy materialis free

brat4914 wrote:

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Police academy materialis free

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 Hey Brat, about when can we expect the Police Academy material to be on the Intranet?

Paul Benedict wrote:

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The key wants $100 more for home study? How does that make sense?  All these schools raised their prices too..  Greedy bastards!

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 I thought the same thing. I don't know how that makes any sense to charge more when I am printing everything out on my own.

4/18/15 is the exam!!! Good luck !

I agree. Yano is the man,....hands down. Not sure how The Key would be without Chief Shea now that he's Police Commish in NJ. His brother teaches on Mondays for the Captains course by 1PP.  Not sure how committed he would be for the Lieutenant's Course. 

I thought the Admin Guide was on the LT Exam?  No mention of it from Elite.  I thought they issued a patrol guide and an admin guide?

My test taking days are over, but if I had to do it all over again it would be rising star all the way. rising star made the right call with the admin guide, judgement scenarios, etc. these test writers are always trying to pull a fast one and I wouldn't want to chance it for a lieutenants exam. you have to study hard for this one. This was, hands down, the most competitive test in  the dept 

Nypd 1234 wrote:

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I thought the Admin Guide was on the LT Exam?  No mention of it from Elite.  I thought they issued a patrol guide and an admin guide?

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 Mike said if we needed it he would give it to us but he feels that reading it would be a waste of time.
2011 Lt's exam - 0 questions
2006 lt's exam - 2 questions
2003 lt's exam - 0 questions
He doesnt think we should waste time reading another 400 procedures for that
He is going to cover what we would need to know about the AG in class.

jill72 wrote:

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My test taking days are over, but if I had to do it all over again it would be rising star all the way. rising star made the right call with the admin guide, judgement scenarios, etc. these test writers are always trying to pull a fast one and I wouldn't want to chance it for a lieutenants exam. you have to study hard for this one. This was, hands down, the most competitive test in  the dept 

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 Do they give you packets elite or key?

bklyn13 wrote:

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Has anyone ever tried '' The procedural guide for Police supervisors" by KSA?
I would like to hear some opinions on that.

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 I was wondering the same thing. I haven't heard anyone use KSA

Thanks for the shout-out, Jill. The course has been tweaked a bit since you took your exam. for ex. we now have a full in-basket lesson.

Bluecollar: The course consists of 20 packets, mailed to your home (one packet each week).

The bulk of the packet will be Patrol Guide questions and the accompanying notes. We intend for you to do these along with reading the actual patrol guide. Our notes is basically the PG without the "fluff".  To enhance retention we use several tricks. For example, we might leave out a key step in our notes; the question for that procedure will then require that you know that step in order to get it right--this re-enforces the Patrol Guide learning...

Aside from the PG question and notes there are supplementary lessons broken up among the 20 lessons such as relevant AG Guide procedures, Crime Classification Guide, in-basket, test taking tips, study tips, misc. orders, math/grammar, etc.

eze wrote:

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Thanks for the shout-out, Jill. The course has been tweaked a bit since you took your exam. for ex. we now have a full in-basket lesson.

Bluecollar: The course consists of 20 packets, mailed to your home (one packet each week).

The bulk of the packet will be Patrol Guide questions and the accompanying notes. We intend for you to do these along with reading the actual patrol guide. Our notes is basically the PG without the "fluff".  To enhance retention we use several tricks. For example, we might leave out a key step in our notes; the question for that procedure will then require that you know that step in order to get it right--this re-enforces the Patrol Guide learning...

Aside from the PG question and notes there are supplementary lessons broken up among the 20 lessons such as relevant AG Guide procedures, Crime Classification Guide, in-basket, test taking tips, study tips, misc. orders, math/grammar, etc.

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 thank you for clarifying it for me

I'll be trying out the rising star questions.

bklyn13 wrote:

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Has anyone ever tried '' The procedural guide for Police supervisors" by KSA?
I would like to hear some opinions on that.

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KSA got me promoted in the top 15% with no Patrol guide just studied from "the procedural guide for police supervisors" on that disaster of a Sgt test given in December 2003. It also got me promoted off the 2006 LT exam but I also used the patrol guide as well. Was in the top 30%. Haven't heard Much from retired INSP Storch but back when I needed it  the book was excellent.  Good luck everyone

Trust me - Rising Star has it hands down. They nailed the 2006 Lt. Exam and covered items on the 2011 Lt. Exam that no other schools even thought of....items that actually appeared on the exam!!! If you're hard core and want it, Rising Star has the best questions out there no doubt.

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I did the key for all three of the last three exams and it worked for me. In my opinion, Chief Shea was the best and Capt. Monaghan is decent. Elite(formerly Fast Track) jumps around to much. I also used risingstar "just the questions" when they sell them towards the end. No school though can replace hard work and dedication on your own. Good luck to you guys.

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The problem with that is you're only getting Patrol Guide questions. For another $200 I took their PG, AG, Legal Bureau, Crime Classification, leadership/judgment, math/grammar and in-basket outlines which all came with questions. Well worth the extra money than just getting the PG questions.

Tiger wrote:

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Nothing beats Good old fashioned reading the patrol guide as many times as u can. If u don't put in the time reading questions and classes mean nothing. Especially for the Lt test.

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 I agree with you 100%!,......No way around this exam,...MUST read PG!!! Class and questions are only an aide,...

I'm thinking the key.     Can anyone advise if the college credits are worth it.   Or will they not count them if I go to a cuny ?   

Thank you

good luck bigfoot, i am rooting for you !!!

Thank NYCop80