To the people who went to the protest, which questions have a realistic chance of being a double answer or thrown out?
J Man said
Dec 18, 2013
At least nine of mine...probably a total of fifteen
shwangtwang said
Dec 18, 2013
Looking back, were the questions poorly written like the lieutenants exam or were there factual errors?
J Man said
Dec 18, 2013
Both...
tensixone said
Dec 18, 2013
Anyone else besides J Man that attended the protest have an opinion???
BimpGod said
Dec 18, 2013
I protested 3. 2 of these 3 I feel very strong about my reasoning. The thing is that someone writes a question and to them it looks ok, because in their head it makes sense and they know exactly what they are asking. 20 people may read this question and interpret it in 20 different ways. Some of the answers originally I wanted to protest I didnt, because I reread it, and saw things differently. I am not the type who is gonna nitpick at every minut detail and challenge everything because 1-I didn't need to, and 2-it isn't gonna make much of a difference if a , or something isn't perfect.
Some of the answers were "most" correct and although 95% of the statement was right, most times 1 word was left out making it incorrect. There was about 4,5 of these I realized and just took the loss. I do believe there's a solid 5-6 questions that can be protested though. I hope people on here don't just look up the answers and quit if they got a 60, or skip the protest because they got over a 70. I passed with plenty of room and still took time to protest 3 questions because of the hell and stress this test gave me. Also hope that it helps others who are in that 67-69 range.
L6t8 said
Dec 18, 2013
I was @ the protest session today. Seems that Operations Orders questions (#41 & 80) can be appealed based on the fact that Operations Orders were not listed on NOE. In addition, Operations Orders expire in a year after being published, unless they are specifically extended by Finest messages etc. #81 refers to Operations Order #33 from 2006. That Operations Order is, most likely, no longer in effect. Tomorrow when I come to work, I will verify this information.
Inspector71 said
Dec 18, 2013
Is it ok to post specific questions and the content of these questions on the board? If so then I have a few to post.
infinity said
Dec 19, 2013
People who went today should really be advising the guys going tomorrow. That's a huge advantage for everyone. We need question numbers and topics. We gotta bring all material with us. No wasting time looking just get to it and knock out as many as we can
JustTheFacts said
Dec 19, 2013
Inspector71, with all respect currently 11 people are still eligible to take the exam (with the questions in a different numerical order) so while it is o.k to post the answer key for 11/23/13 i would not reference specific questions. I would ''P.M.'' that information to them.
Lew Bookman said
Dec 19, 2013
does anyone think the school safety agent penal law question is appealable?
L6t8 said
Dec 19, 2013
Is it question # 10, where the cell phone is being snatched out of dv vic ' s hand, while the perp is saying : " You are not calling the police!"? I believe we can appeal it. The correct classification should be grand larceny, since property is being taken from a person. Since that was not one of the choices, the next choice would be robbery, since an argument can be made that the victim would be fearful, as this was a threatening statement. DCAS identified the crime as criminal mischief, which does not seem to apply.
Lew Bookman said
Dec 19, 2013
L6t8 wrote:
Is it question # 10, where the cell phone is being snatched out of dv vic ' s hand, while the perp is saying : " You are not calling the police!"? I believe we can appeal it. The correct classification should be grand larceny, since property is being taken from a person. Since that was not one of the choices, the next choice would be robbery, since an argument can be made that the victim would be fearful, as this was a threatening statement. DCAS identified the crime as criminal mischief, which does not seem to apply.
yep. that is it. it did not go to the protest. I wonder if anyone did.
-- Edited by Lew Bookman on Thursday 19th of December 2013 02:39:15 AM
L6t8 said
Dec 19, 2013
There is a subdivision of P.L. re: crim mis that refers to removing telephonic equipment to prevent someone from contacting emergency services. But I still think that the argument re: threatening statement/ fearful victim, which would lead to classify the crime as robbery, is valid.
Lew Bookman said
Dec 19, 2013
did you protest it? or any others?
RISING IDIOT said
Dec 19, 2013
Lew Bookman wrote:
does anyone think the school safety agent penal law question is appealable?
Listen, I got this question wrong but it it not protestable. They have us dead to rights here. Word for word from the penal law
-- Edited by RISING IDIOT on Thursday 19th of December 2013 04:37:12 AM
To the people who went to the protest, which questions have a realistic chance of being a double answer or thrown out?
Some of the answers were "most" correct and although 95% of the statement was right, most times 1 word was left out making it incorrect. There was about 4,5 of these I realized and just took the loss. I do believe there's a solid 5-6 questions that can be protested though. I hope people on here don't just look up the answers and quit if they got a 60, or skip the protest because they got over a 70. I passed with plenty of room and still took time to protest 3 questions because of the hell and stress this test gave me. Also hope that it helps others who are in that 67-69 range.
I was @ the protest session today. Seems that Operations Orders questions (#41 & 80) can be appealed based on the fact that Operations Orders were not listed on NOE. In addition, Operations Orders expire in a year after being published, unless they are specifically extended by Finest messages etc. #81 refers to Operations Order #33 from 2006. That Operations Order is, most likely, no longer in effect. Tomorrow when I come to work, I will verify this information.
Is it ok to post specific questions and the content of these questions on the board? If so then I have a few to post.
does anyone think the school safety agent penal law question is appealable?
Is it question # 10, where the cell phone is being snatched out of dv vic ' s hand, while the perp is saying : " You are not calling the police!"? I believe we can appeal it. The correct classification should be grand larceny, since property is being taken from a person. Since that was not one of the choices, the next choice would be robbery, since an argument can be made that the victim would be fearful, as this was a threatening statement. DCAS identified the crime as criminal mischief, which does not seem to apply.
yep. that is it. it did not go to the protest. I wonder if anyone did.
-- Edited by Lew Bookman on Thursday 19th of December 2013 02:39:15 AM
did you protest it? or any others?
Listen, I got this question wrong but it it not protestable. They have us dead to rights here. Word for word from the penal law
-- Edited by RISING IDIOT on Thursday 19th of December 2013 04:37:12 AM