52 source keys total so far, up from 31. Same download link.
I will be doing the same answer key generation service that I have been doing for the last few exams. If you are new to this, this is how it works:
You can send me, via PM or email (support@ottrack.com), your answer key. Typing it out is easiest for me (e.g., 1. A, 2. B, etc.), but if you don't have time for that or are working from a phone or whatever, you can take a picture of your key and send it as an email attachment. Either way, I will add the key to the spreadsheet and use it to build a master key. It's always fairly accurate (over 90% every time). Once I have at least 20 keys or so, I will edit this post and add a download link so everyone can plug in their answers on their own and see how they likely did.
The spreadsheet file itself works as follows:
Once you open it, clear out any answers under the heading "My Answers" and enter your own. The spreadsheet breaks down the test as follows:
1) It assigns a "Confidence Level" to each question. High means that a vast majority of people selected that answer. Moderate means that it is close but the top answer is still decently above the others. Low means that it is still a potential double answer, or too close to call.
2) Your correct and wrong answers are broken down by these confidence levels, so you can easily see how you did on the questions that are most likely accurate and the others that are less so.
3) Potential double answers are also counted and how many where you have at least one.
4) Wrong answers are colored red on the left. Doubles where you have the other one is colored orange.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I don't know if I'll get enough keys tonight from people to post anything usable, but I will definitely have something up by tomorrow. Good luck to all.
-- Edited by Gamblor on Monday 25th of November 2013 06:44:33 PM
NYG37 said
Nov 24, 2013
I know its relatively a small sample so far I have 26 different from keys submitted.
-- Edited by NYG37 on Sunday 24th of November 2013 01:41:28 AM
richpd2 said
Nov 24, 2013
Thanks man.. gonna send mine your way for what its worth... 6 months of studying down the drains it feels like
Lew Bookman said
Nov 24, 2013
Six months of studying. Ignoring the wife for six months. All for nothing. Sucks.
Gamblor said
Nov 24, 2013
I feel the same way. I studied, not as hard as I would have liked, but I did put the effort in. It was certainly a fair test, but definitely very hard. If I passed at all, it's going to be real close.
richpd2 said
Nov 24, 2013
let us know when you have enough keys.. mine is sent..thanks again brother
Gamblor said
Nov 24, 2013
I think I will definitely have enough this evening. I'm up to 12 I think.
Ringmaster said
Nov 24, 2013
Email address to send a key too?
J Man said
Nov 24, 2013
Mine sent
Gamblor said
Nov 24, 2013
Ringmaster wrote:
Email address to send a key too?
support@ottrack.com
hwyltg said
Nov 24, 2013
just sent you mine.....how do i get a key you create?
Gamblor said
Nov 24, 2013
First version is posted. Link is in the first post. I will also include it below.
I got a most likely score of 71 (think I missed 28). How accurate are these? is there usually a big change?
Shnaggles1 said
Nov 24, 2013
I count the low as wrong I got 35 diff.. 18 low questions !! I prob failed only one to blame is my self !
Lew Bookman said
Nov 24, 2013
my score is starting to go down now ( a 69) so I think I am done.
jaribu said
Nov 24, 2013
How many questions were there and in how many hours
tensixone said
Nov 24, 2013
100. 6 hours
jaribu said
Nov 24, 2013
that's ****ing bull****
jaribu said
Nov 24, 2013
NYPD Captains exam : 100 questions in 6 hours. Can anyone explain to me how dcas thought it was appropriate to tell police officer that The time limit of six hours was considered appropriate based on experience with prior Sergeant and other uniformed services exams, when in the last 25 years of about 25 promotional exams with the nypd, all being 100 questions and 6 hours they give us an exam where we basically have a test that is 1/3 longer or another way of looking at it is we had 1/3 less time to complete the exam based on the number of questions. Then just 1 week after sending us that bullsh**t email they go and give the Lieutenants an exam where they have 6 hours to do 100 questions. Any reasonable person or judge would find what DCAS did as completely unfair.
tensixone said
Nov 24, 2013
There's a rant forum for sgts you can carry on there.
Shnaggles1 said
Nov 24, 2013
jaribu wrote:
NYPD Captains exam : 100 questions in 6 hours. Can anyone explain to me how dcas thought it was appropriate to tell police officer that The time limit of six hours was considered appropriate based on experience with prior Sergeant and other uniformed services exams, when in the last 25 years of about 25 promotional exams with the nypd, all being 100 questions and 6 hours they give us an exam where we basically have a test that is 1/3 longer or another way of looking at it is we had 1/3 less time to complete the exam based on the number of questions. Then just 1 week after sending us that bullsh**t email they go and give the Lieutenants an exam where they have 6 hours to do 100 questions. Any reasonable person or judge would find what DCAS did as completely unfair.
well dcas did advise you about it. Yes not the amount of questions but non the less they did cover themselves. Judge will not find anything other than the canidates were properly informed about changes. There is no rule say there must be 6 hours for 100 7 for 130. Listen I am in agreementi personally thinknit wad wrong but nothing can be done. The last lt exam was unfair and nothing happened with that.. sorry it sucks man we have all been there !
-- Edited by Shnaggles1 on Sunday 24th of November 2013 09:18:07 PM
On Point Info said
Nov 24, 2013
FYI: the 1993 Sergeants test had 156 questions and the same time of 6 hours.
Walter H White said
Nov 24, 2013
Jar- the truth is that the Police Dept has a very long and unpredictable history of unfair exams; some were excessively long, some had interviews, open book portions, videos and even separate Lists for whites and non-whites. If you simply accept this and study hard most times it works out. Good luck.
brat4914 said
Nov 25, 2013
Walter H White wrote:
Jar- the truth is that the Police Dept has a very long and unpredictable history of unfair exams; some were excessively long, some had interviews, open book portions, videos and even separate Lists for whites and non-whites. If you simply accept this and study hard most times it works out. Good luck.
dont blame the Dept - blame DCAS
Gamblor said
Nov 25, 2013
Spreadsheet has been updated to include some more keys, clean out some that were a little off, and change a few calcs. I don't know if your score will change much as mine didn't really. It has the same download link, found in the first post of this thread.
TheFinest911 said
Nov 25, 2013
Stop Crying Jaribu! This is not the forum for that, crybaby...
bigfoot45 said
Nov 25, 2013
Is anyone on here very confident they passed this test?
BimpGod said
Nov 25, 2013
According to the most recent update says I have a possible 75, with 13 correct answers being "low" so who really knows what to expect. I don't feel too confident. I really think I am right around 68-72ish, just like I felt after that last LT test.
NYG37 said
Nov 25, 2013
I'm in the same boat, it says I'm looking at 75 with 11 low answers. It absolutely sucks
bigfoot45 said
Nov 25, 2013
I'm sure you guys did fine
HotMessBoogerCookie said
Nov 25, 2013
I went from a 67 to 72 from the update so hope it works out
Lew Bookman said
Nov 25, 2013
HotMessBoogerCookie wrote:
I went from a 67 to 72 from the update so hope it works out
69 to a 70 for me.
J Man said
Nov 25, 2013
68 for me.....unless all multi answers moderate and low somehow go my way....then 86.
NYG37 said
Nov 25, 2013
So without counting low and moderate you're looking at 68 you will be fine. You'll pick up enough points.
J Man said
Nov 25, 2013
Your lips to gods ears....last test not a single throw out or so I am told
richpd2 said
Nov 25, 2013
worst case 71/ best case 74 as of now..most likely 73...
J Man said
Nov 25, 2013
How many keys do you currently have in the spreadsheet? Did you update since 2pm?...on behalf of all of us thank you for doing the spreadsheet
Shnaggles1 said
Nov 25, 2013
Without giving specifics anyone remember # of phone snatch one ? pm me if you do we talk there. and i noticed at least a few that were marked high that majority picked but are wrong, i know because i looked them up. There were lots of tricks that are getting noticed days later geesh !
hollar said
Nov 25, 2013
Low blows
wereinbacklog said
Nov 25, 2013
Shnaggles1 wrote:
Without giving specifics anyone remember # of phone snatch one ? pm me if you do we talk there. and i noticed at least a few that were marked high that majority picked but are wrong, i know because i looked them up. There were lots of tricks that are getting noticed days later geesh !
Phone snatch was question 10
wereinbacklog said
Nov 25, 2013
Shnaggles1 check your pm
hollar said
Nov 25, 2013
That was a low blow question... Who said the exam was fair????
Shnaggles1 said
Nov 25, 2013
After going over a good handfull a little while ago there was a lot of cheap shots people prob still dont even know have happened until they gwt it wrong on proposed key.. I have accepted the fail and will move on..
NYG37 said
Nov 25, 2013
There's still a lot of uncertainty over many questions. Don't hang you're head low. I'm barely passing now but when official key comes out I won't be surprised when i don't make it.
-- Edited by NYG37 on Monday 25th of November 2013 10:55:06 PM
stiggityone said
Nov 25, 2013
I did the same thing as Gamblor the night of the exam, but only with 9 keys. A lot of different results than what we have so far. I'll send the keys to Gamblor tonight when I get home.
1Under said
Nov 25, 2013
Stiggs are your nine keys for the most part legit studiers?
tensixone said
Nov 25, 2013
It might not be a bad idea to have keys exclusively from legit studiers with a high level of confidence if available
hollar said
Nov 26, 2013
Guys just wait for the protest session!!!
Their were tricks within tricks in these questions....
1Under said
Nov 26, 2013
hollar wrote:
Guys just wait for the protest session!!!
Their were tricks within tricks in these questions....
You are absolutely right. We should, but it is all part of the post test stressing out package that we have done previously.
stiggityone said
Nov 26, 2013
Yes...legit studiers...most were in the first or second group on their sergeant or lieutenant exam
52 source keys total so far, up from 31. Same download link.
I will be doing the same answer key generation service that I have been doing for the last few exams. If you are new to this, this is how it works:
You can send me, via PM or email (support@ottrack.com), your answer key. Typing it out is easiest for me (e.g., 1. A, 2. B, etc.), but if you don't have time for that or are working from a phone or whatever, you can take a picture of your key and send it as an email attachment. Either way, I will add the key to the spreadsheet and use it to build a master key. It's always fairly accurate (over 90% every time). Once I have at least 20 keys or so, I will edit this post and add a download link so everyone can plug in their answers on their own and see how they likely did.
The spreadsheet file itself works as follows:
Once you open it, clear out any answers under the heading "My Answers" and enter your own. The spreadsheet breaks down the test as follows:
1) It assigns a "Confidence Level" to each question. High means that a vast majority of people selected that answer. Moderate means that it is close but the top answer is still decently above the others. Low means that it is still a potential double answer, or too close to call.
2) Your correct and wrong answers are broken down by these confidence levels, so you can easily see how you did on the questions that are most likely accurate and the others that are less so.
3) Potential double answers are also counted and how many where you have at least one.
4) Wrong answers are colored red on the left. Doubles where you have the other one is colored orange.
DOWNLOAD HERE: http://www.ottrack.com/downloads/CaptAnswerKey.xlsx
If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I don't know if I'll get enough keys tonight from people to post anything usable, but I will definitely have something up by tomorrow. Good luck to all.
-- Edited by Gamblor on Monday 25th of November 2013 06:44:33 PM
I know its relatively a small sample so far I have 26 different from keys submitted.
-- Edited by NYG37 on Sunday 24th of November 2013 01:41:28 AM
Six months of studying. Ignoring the wife for six months. All for nothing. Sucks.
support@ottrack.com
First version is posted. Link is in the first post. I will also include it below.
http://www.ottrack.com/downloads/CaptAnswerKey.xlsx
I got a most likely score of 71 (think I missed 28). How accurate are these? is there usually a big change?
I count the low as wrong I got 35 diff.. 18 low questions !! I prob failed only one to blame is my self !
my score is starting to go down now ( a 69) so I think I am done.
well dcas did advise you about it. Yes not the amount of questions but non the less they did cover themselves. Judge will not find anything other than the canidates were properly informed about changes. There is no rule say there must be 6 hours for 100 7 for 130. Listen I am in agreementi personally thinknit wad wrong but nothing can be done. The last lt exam was unfair and nothing happened with that.. sorry it sucks man we have all been there !
-- Edited by Shnaggles1 on Sunday 24th of November 2013 09:18:07 PM
FYI: the 1993 Sergeants test had 156 questions and the same time of 6 hours.
Jar- the truth is that the Police Dept has a very long and unpredictable history of unfair exams; some were excessively long, some had interviews, open book portions, videos and even separate Lists for whites and non-whites. If you simply accept this and study hard most times it works out. Good luck.
dont blame the Dept - blame DCAS
Is anyone on here very confident they passed this test?
I'm sure you guys did fine
69 to a 70 for me.
Without giving specifics anyone remember # of phone snatch one ? pm me if you do we talk there. and i noticed at least a few that were marked high that majority picked but are wrong, i know because i looked them up. There were lots of tricks that are getting noticed days later geesh !
Phone snatch was question 10
After going over a good handfull a little while ago there was a lot of cheap shots people prob still dont even know have happened until they gwt it wrong on proposed key.. I have accepted the fail and will move on..
There's still a lot of uncertainty over many questions. Don't hang you're head low. I'm barely passing now but when official key comes out I won't be surprised when i don't make it.
-- Edited by NYG37 on Monday 25th of November 2013 10:55:06 PM
Their were tricks within tricks in these questions....
You are absolutely right. We should, but it is all part of the post test stressing out package that we have done previously.