"You may also bring and submit a copy or the original of any reference material and/or supporting documentation that you feel will help substantiate your protest(s). Howeve, copies of your materials/documentation cannot be made during the PRS, nor will anything submitted with your protest(s) be returned to you. You may not bring handwritten notes to the PRS, nor will you be permitted to remove any handwritten notes that you may have made during the PRS."
So basically, bring your PG and all other reference material and be prepared to lose your originals....
What a joke.
-- Edited by bngeek on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 01:16:24 AM
nyyankeez86 said
Nov 20, 2013
I got my appointment letter for the PRS in the mail today; November 30th, 2013 at the same testing location as the exam.
To clarify any confusions...
The protest review Session is the only place you can view the proposed answer key for our exam
I said it yesterday that it was on the 30th and in BK. But I didn't want to get called a troll
ShaunNY said
Nov 20, 2013
I wont be able to make protest session. Prior travel arrangements. Can someone ensure they protest the pursuit question. The answer was i believe additional units may be requested by the officers in the primary unit or by a supervisor, if it appears that officers in the vehicle involved would not be able to safely effect the apprehension of the suspects. that's the semi word for word patrol guide answer. Or it said any supervisor something along those lines. That has to be a semi **** up in patrol guide cause there no way just any supervisor can authorize that. So technically according to patrol guide a civilian supervisor at Communications Division can authorize additional unit.. no way would fly.. Its not specific or detailed enough question i think. Has to at minimum say UMOS supervisor or something.
TransitJoe said
Nov 20, 2013
So the patrol guide is wrong, not you. Got it
ShaunNY said
Nov 20, 2013
Wow..another ignorant dick in this forum.what a surprise. Everything the job puts in patrol guide must be correct according to you. What a douche bag.
Zmann said
Nov 20, 2013
Son of Jor El wrote:
DAMM It seem's like everyone is going to the same location. FDR H.S. in BK. That sucks I live in the BX. ROADTRIP!!
Pick me up im in the bx too lmaooooooooo
-- Edited by Zmann on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 03:25:28 PM
Liberal Tools said
Nov 20, 2013
Really sucks for the people upstate!!!
-- Edited by Liberal Tools on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 04:38:01 PM
Son of Jor El said
Nov 20, 2013
DAMM It seem's like everyone is going to the same location. FDR H.S. in BK. That sucks I live in the BX. ROADTRIP!!
Son of Jor El said
Nov 20, 2013
LOMAO
Son of Jor El said
Nov 21, 2013
J E T S JETS JETS JETS!!!
Romeo23g said
Nov 21, 2013
Just got mine 11/30... Damn BK AGAIN! This F-ing crazy!!!!
Jdawg said
Nov 21, 2013
Yea just got mine also on saturday 11/30 at fdr high school at 1000 hours. But explain how the hell we are supposed to bring the patrol guide and submit copies for review? This is why we needed the teachers from elite, fast track, rising star, and the key to have been able to take the test and help us protest. They know the guide inside and out, we dont.
nycn8tive said
Nov 21, 2013
Son of Jor El wrote:
DAMM It seem's like everyone is going to the same location. FDR H.S. in BK. That sucks I live in the BX. ROADTRIP!!
You are not alone...I'm in the Bronx as well and have to make that road trip...it sucks that its on a holiday weekend...they don't have any regards for those of us who have made plans or will be out of town for the holiday. I guess DCAS do not have a life!!
que1999 said
Nov 21, 2013
You upstate guys know the only 2 boroughs you're close to are the Bronx and Manhattan north. It is what is is good luck w/that commute. ;)
cop said
Nov 21, 2013
I know for the sgt test we were all temp assigned how does it work for the protest? I put my 28 in anyway Gamblor anyone??? Upstate to bklyn I go
bngeek said
Nov 21, 2013
Jdawg wrote:
Yea just got mine also on saturday 11/30 at fdr high school at 1000 hours. But explain how the hell we are supposed to bring the patrol guide and submit copies for review? This is why we needed the teachers from elite, fast track, rising star, and the key to have been able to take the test and help us protest. They know the guide inside and out, we dont.
You bring your copy of your patrol guide and be prepared to tear out the relevant pages and give it to them to keep.
2boots said
Nov 21, 2013
It says in the letter ... You may not reschedule for any reason .... So I'm taking that as you are good to go... Just drop a 28
Mangas said
Nov 22, 2013
I don't think we should be charged a day off it should be the same as if we are taking the test
Son of Jor El said
Nov 22, 2013
YEAH BUT THE PROTEST REVIEW OPTIONAL, YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ATTEND. SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE TO BURN THE DAY.
yougonow said
Nov 23, 2013
this city is a damn joke.
whereismy70 said
Nov 23, 2013
What is the deal with the proposed answer key? Can we take them home after the protest or will someone sneak it out? Those that are not rdo can not attend during the day tour..is anything going to be fair involving this damn test?
Son of Jor El said
Nov 23, 2013
We'll I plan to mark the answers on my green sheet. Now that sheet belongs to us, unless they say we can't do that. Either way I'll figure something out. I have a few guys at my command that can't go, so I have to find a way to get them the answers.
jaribu said
Nov 24, 2013
-- Edited by jaribu on Wednesday 27th of November 2013 12:29:19 AM
bngeek said
Nov 24, 2013
Be careful of doing that. The protest appointment letter is very specific in saying that you are not allowed to remove any handwritten notes made during the session. You may run the risk of having your entire green sheet removed from you if you do that.
2boots said
Nov 24, 2013
Im pretty sure you could put an "x" to mark the ones you got wrong on your green sheet....
JDMEVO9 said
Nov 24, 2013
Exactly! on point info
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 05:07:47 AM
jaribu said
Nov 24, 2013
The 93 sergeant exam they were given 8 hours to do 156 questions. In addition to that the whole test would be curved they would hire people who got a score in the 50's before other points were added. They didn't need a 70. I spoke to an old boss who said the exams in the 80's were different they were 8 hours to do anywhere from 140-160 questions in 8 hours and then there was a seperate part of the exam you did on a second day.
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:14:23 PM
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:36:36 PM
On Point Info said
Nov 24, 2013
FYI: the 1993 Sergeants Exam had 156 questions and the same 6 hours.
bngeek said
Nov 25, 2013
2boots wrote:
Im pretty sure you could put an "x" to mark the ones you got wrong on your green sheet....
You're probably right, but that's not the same as writing the correct answer next to it.
jaribu said
Nov 26, 2013
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 05:18:03 AM
JDMEVO9 said
Nov 26, 2013
Whatever..
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:09:15 AM
jaribu said
Nov 26, 2013
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:02:28 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:50:18 AM
JDMEVO9 said
Nov 26, 2013
You don't have to prove anything to anyone No clue why you would go the lengths to care about opinions and post your assumed score I could care less if you scored a 69 or 105.
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:24:27 AM
jaribu said
Nov 26, 2013
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:28:34 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:33:39 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:49:09 AM
soccerpsyco32 said
Nov 26, 2013
jaribu wrote:
The 93 sergeant exam they were given 8 hours to do 156 questions. In addition to that the whole test would be curved they would hire people who got a score in the 50's before other points were added. They didn't need a 70. I spoke to an old boss who said the exams in the 80's were different they were 8 hours to do anywhere from 140-160 questions in 8 hours and then there was a seperate part of the exam you did on a second day.
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:14:23 PM
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:36:36 PM
You are one of the biggest crybabies I have ever seen in my life. You failed. Get over it. Nothing is going to change that. Stop cutting and pasting your sob stories in every thread. It's annoying. This isn't the 80s or 90s. They can change the test whenever they please and alter the standards as they please as long as they inform you of it; which they did. Wipe the tears out of your eyes and go on living your life.
TheFinest911 said
Nov 26, 2013
Kudos Soccer! Couldn't say it any better myself...
whereismy70 said
Nov 26, 2013
hey let the guy espress his opinions. Besides, anyone who likes soccer is a psyco. This is the land of football and baseball.
TheFinest911 said
Nov 26, 2013
Soccer is the World's Sport Fella... I hear enough crying everyday at the precinct no need to see it posted on a forum...
JDMEVO9 said
Nov 26, 2013
Watching DVR dancing with the stars..
Slightly more important
Hold that thought
Jdawg said
Nov 27, 2013
Hey i started a thread called "protest review questions...strategy time" , mainly for posting questions that we want to protest along with the source of the material if anyone cares to contribute.
Jdawg said
Nov 30, 2013
I physically went to Dcas for my scantron answer key on Monday and they said it will be mailed to my house before the protest review session, which still has failed to arrive.
It clearly states in the protest procedure letter that Dcas mailed to me that we have 30 days from the protest review session to submit protests by mail if we so choose, with 4 copies of your written protest for each question, along with 2 copies of the supporting documentation. We are going tomorrow to see what we scored first and foremost. since most likely no one will bring in the encyclopedia that we call a patrol guide, this is used to our advantage to check the questions that we think were unfair, try hard to remember them as best as can be, and then submit the protests by mail to:
protest Dcas bowling green station P.O. Box 974 NY, NY 10274-0974.
Once they receive your protests and post the exams eligible list, Dcas will then invite those who submitted protests to attend the test validation board. Don't get discouraged, we are in this together and have no help from the experts who taught our high priced classes. We need to collaborate our protested questions, we have power in numbers and our voices must be heard (braveheart moment).
Wingnut said
Nov 30, 2013
Dawg, you seem like a good guy who's just looking for good information on here but PLEASE stop cutting and pasting to every thread on here.
I have email notifications on for the site and you blow up my inbox!
Arrow said
Nov 30, 2013
Last 30 count. Research questions are from 17-100. What research about that?
JudgeDredd said
Nov 30, 2013
Nobody has an answer key yet or which 30 of the 100 don't count?
Arrow said
Nov 30, 2013
They took the green sheets.
JudgeDredd said
Nov 30, 2013
Are you kidding me???? How the hell are the rest of us gonna know what is right and wrong??? Why is dcas doing this crap?
ShaunNY said
Nov 30, 2013
Judge, Arrow is one person and has been posting since about an hour after the session was scheduled to start. Nothing on this job ever starts on time either.So if he was there he wasnt there long. I'd wait till actual people that did the protest session in full actually post something. Don't stress it. Even if they did take green sheets I'm sure somebody is smart enough to write answers on there patrol guide or something along those lines.
READ THE LETTER CAREFULLY.
"You may also bring and submit a copy or the original of any reference material and/or supporting documentation that you feel will help substantiate your protest(s). Howeve, copies of your materials/documentation cannot be made during the PRS, nor will anything submitted with your protest(s) be returned to you. You may not bring handwritten notes to the PRS, nor will you be permitted to remove any handwritten notes that you may have made during the PRS."
So basically, bring your PG and all other reference material and be prepared to lose your originals....
What a joke.
-- Edited by bngeek on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 01:16:24 AM
I got my appointment letter for the PRS in the mail today; November 30th, 2013 at the same testing location as the exam.
To clarify any confusions...
I said it yesterday that it was on the 30th and in BK. But I didn't want to get called a troll
Pick me up im in the bx too lmaooooooooo
-- Edited by Zmann on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 03:25:28 PM
Really sucks for the people upstate!!!
-- Edited by Liberal Tools on Wednesday 20th of November 2013 04:38:01 PM
You are not alone...I'm in the Bronx as well and have to make that road trip...it sucks that its on a holiday weekend...they don't have any regards for those of us who have made plans or will be out of town for the holiday. I guess DCAS do not have a life!!
I know for the sgt test we were all temp assigned how does it work for the protest? I put my 28 in anyway Gamblor anyone??? Upstate to bklyn I go
You bring your copy of your patrol guide and be prepared to tear out the relevant pages and give it to them to keep.
-- Edited by jaribu on Wednesday 27th of November 2013 12:29:19 AM
Exactly! on point info
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 05:07:47 AM
The 93 sergeant exam they were given 8 hours to do 156 questions. In addition to that the whole test would be curved they would hire people who got a score in the 50's before other points were added. They didn't need a 70. I spoke to an old boss who said the exams in the 80's were different they were 8 hours to do anywhere from 140-160 questions in 8 hours and then there was a seperate part of the exam you did on a second day.
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:14:23 PM
-- Edited by jaribu on Sunday 24th of November 2013 07:36:36 PM
FYI: the 1993 Sergeants Exam had 156 questions and the same 6 hours.
You're probably right, but that's not the same as writing the correct answer next to it.
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 05:18:03 AM
Whatever..
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:09:15 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:02:28 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:50:18 AM
You don't have to prove anything to anyone
No clue why you would go the lengths to care about opinions and post your assumed score
I could care less if you scored a 69 or 105.
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:24:27 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:28:34 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:33:39 AM
-- Edited by jaribu on Tuesday 26th of November 2013 04:49:09 AM
You are one of the biggest crybabies I have ever seen in my life. You failed. Get over it. Nothing is going to change that. Stop cutting and pasting your sob stories in every thread. It's annoying. This isn't the 80s or 90s. They can change the test whenever they please and alter the standards as they please as long as they inform you of it; which they did. Wipe the tears out of your eyes and go on living your life.
hey let the guy espress his opinions. Besides, anyone who likes soccer is a psyco. This is the land of football and baseball.
Slightly more important
Hold that thought
It clearly states in the protest procedure letter that Dcas mailed to me that we have 30 days from the protest review session to submit protests by mail if we so choose, with 4 copies of your written protest for each question, along with 2 copies of the supporting documentation. We are going tomorrow to see what we scored first and foremost. since most likely no one will bring in the encyclopedia that we call a patrol guide, this is used to our advantage to check the questions that we think were unfair, try hard to remember them as best as can be, and then submit the protests by mail to:
protest Dcas bowling green station P.O. Box 974 NY, NY 10274-0974.
Once they receive your protests and post the exams eligible list, Dcas will then invite those who submitted protests to attend the test validation board. Don't get discouraged, we are in this together and have no help from the experts who taught our high priced classes. We need to collaborate our protested questions, we have power in numbers and our voices must be heard (braveheart moment).
I have email notifications on for the site and you blow up my inbox!
Last 30 count. Research questions are from 17-100. What research about that?
They took the green sheets.
Judge, Arrow is one person and has been posting since about an hour after the session was scheduled to start. Nothing on this job ever starts on time either.So if he was there he wasnt there long. I'd wait till actual people that did the protest session in full actually post something. Don't stress it. Even if they did take green sheets I'm sure somebody is smart enough to write answers on there patrol guide or something along those lines.