Anyone have any info on how these work? What happens at the hearing? I'm not 100% sure I'll be having one, but it appears that way.
holding1 said
Jun 6, 2012
From what I've heard, anyone with something negative in their file will go before a panel of 3 chiefs, who will then determine your fitness for promotion. I hear you can't defend your actions, just admit guilt and take any flogging they may give you. I'll tell you more after mine next week.
Salt-ness said
Jun 6, 2012
Don't worry many of people were promoted after seeing the three wise men from sgt's to captains. Just make sure you have some good reps and don't bad mouth any supervisors even the one that's doing you dirty.
stuntman1 said
Jun 6, 2012
I was in the top 70 names, got passed over cause PC did not sign off
on my charges, heard I have to go in front of carb also. I studied real hard for a good score and now I'm in limbo, any more info on this would be amazingly appreciated. Trying not to go crazy from this.
RMP6969 said
Jun 6, 2012
I say walk in there slap your balls on the table and let them know who's in charge !!!
Scammer045 said
Jun 6, 2012
I'm on the same boat as you. I had my meeting and I won't get promoted for a loooong time.
The meeting will start with the chiefs asking you to say something about yourself (where you're from, where you have worked, etc.) And then you'll need to say what brings you to the meeting (talk about your CD's, charges and specs, sick days if Chronic sick, low evaluation, etc.) the chiefs will question you. Have your answers ready.
Knight3100 said
Jun 6, 2012
I could be wrong, but is it true that even if the three wisemen approve you, the P.C. still has to approve it. If this is true Im sorry to say those who got passed over may have to wait a bit, because the P.C. is in no hurry to sign off on anything.
Suntrust said
Jun 6, 2012
You have three (3) try's to go before the board for promotion. Majority of the time most people only have to go before the board once, take their licks, and move on to get promoted.
If you don't "fix" what ever the board determines is preventing you from being promoted after your third visit, they'll make the recommendation to the PC for you not to be promoted and ultimately he has the final say. Insp Jones runs the show down there and from what I hear she makes it a pleasurable experience.
I can only assume that if the board determines you are ready for promotion, after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd visit, they also have to submit this to the PC who again has final say.
stuntman1 said
Jun 6, 2012
That's sucks to hear, I signed off on a negotiated penalty in December' 11 and they are telling me I have to wait for pc to sign to close out charges then go in front of carb. Even more frustrating is I get a letter in mail telling me I've been passed over, SMFH. And to top it off, there is no one or place to call for info, now I feel like I'll never get made after working hard to get back in an active detail and studying my ass off to get a high score.
Knight3100 said
Jun 6, 2012
Sorry stuntman, Yeah it sucks. I mean look at the personnal orders that are coming down with penalities . They are dated 08/09/10. The P.C. signs off on everythng from transfers to promotions, to penalities. By the look of things he is in rush to sign off on any penalities. Good luck brother, hopefully it wont be to long.
stuntman1 said
Jun 6, 2012
Thanks, I being patient and staying active, that's all I can control.
Knight3100 said
Jun 6, 2012
Good thinking brother. Play the game, and before you konw you'll be in there.
TiNmAn said
Jun 6, 2012
I don't know many people that went to the board and got out of there on their first try without having to go back. They usually make you sweat it out. Hopefully those in this scenario can clear their situation up and get made. Good luck to all.
Iwearpumas said
Jun 9, 2012
What kind of CCRB will prevent promotion?
Cfgl1888 said
Jun 9, 2012
As far as I know, the job really doesn't like Abuse of Authority CCRBs. In terms of preventing promotion though, I think you would have to have A LOT of them for it to be serious enough for them to not promote you, and they would have to be substantiated obviously, so it should not be an issue for most people.
Iw0an2to3ut said
May 19, 2013
Where do you go for a carb hearing?
queensfinest said
May 20, 2013
Question? Do you have to go in front of the board for a B CD
Iw0an2to3ut said
May 20, 2013
Never had a B cd . 2 a cd's in my career and want to know if the notification I got last night was for a carb hearing or something else.
Iw0an2to3ut said
May 21, 2013
Forget it. I'm done. Good luck to all.
scheduleB_magnet said
May 22, 2013
Iw0an2to3ut wrote:
Forget it. I'm done. Good luck to all.
Not getting promoted???
Iw0an2to3ut said
May 23, 2013
That's what Friday will decide.
Doggieloverwoof said
May 23, 2013
Iw0an2to3ut wrote:
That's what Friday will decide.
Good luck!
Al25001 said
May 23, 2013
When should we expect the finest message to come down?
Sargtest246 said
May 23, 2013
Assuming next Thursday
Al25001 said
May 23, 2013
Thank you
scheduleB_magnet said
May 23, 2013
Iw0an2to3ut wrote:
That's what Friday will decide.
Good luck man. Hope everything works out.
Iw0an2to3ut said
May 23, 2013
What should I expect
Godzilla said
Jun 19, 2013
Suntrust wrote:
You have three (3) try's to go before the board for promotion. Majority of the time most people only have to go before the board once, take their licks, and move on to get promoted.
If you don't "fix" what ever the board determines is preventing you from being promoted after your third visit, they'll make the recommendation to the PC for you not to be promoted and ultimately he has the final say. Insp Jones runs the show down there and from what I hear she makes it a pleasurable experience.
I can only assume that if the board determines you are ready for promotion, after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd visit, they also have to submit this to the PC who again has final say.
Im sorry to disappoint you but it's now Deputy Chief Jones now and shes now X.O. of PBBS so sorry I don't think you will have the pleasure of talking to her at 1 PP
smartcookie said
Jun 20, 2013
Godzilla wrote:
Suntrust wrote:
You have three (3) try's to go before the board for promotion. Majority of the time most people only have to go before the board once, take their licks, and move on to get promoted.
If you don't "fix" what ever the board determines is preventing you from being promoted after your third visit, they'll make the recommendation to the PC for you not to be promoted and ultimately he has the final say. Insp Jones runs the show down there and from what I hear she makes it a pleasurable experience.
I can only assume that if the board determines you are ready for promotion, after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd visit, they also have to submit this to the PC who again has final say.
Im sorry to disappoint you but it's now Deputy Chief Jones now and shes now X.O. of PBBS so sorry I don't think you will have the pleasure of talking to her at 1 PP
Godzilla, since the above was your first post on this forum (under this name), let me enlighten you... The post written by Suntrust that you quoted was written LAST YEAR on June 6, 2012. So, DC Jones was Insp Jones at that time.
Iw0an2to3ut said
Aug 3, 2013
Chief Morales is who I met with, it was a pre carb hearing. Pretty much to determine if I was going forward or going to carb. Chief Morales is/was a gentleman. Spoke to me like an adult and listened as well. I have to say he was more than fair and again a gentleman. Good luck just don't BS him if you go. Own up to everything, take responsibility and hopefully you will move forward quickly.
-- Edited by Iw0an2to3ut on Saturday 3rd of August 2013 01:58:56 AM
Bat93 said
Aug 3, 2013
Does anyone know how CARB works? I've been told you need to request a hearing. Is that true? Or do they automatically schedule you for one when you're clear?
Bat93 said
Aug 5, 2013
Thanks. I'm just trying to see how the entire process works from the beginning. Do you remember if you requested a hearing or were you automatically scheduled for it?
Iw0an2to3ut said
Aug 6, 2013
I was notified to appear at 1PP in dress uniform. I didn't request anything. Like I said though, mine was what they called a pre-carb hearing. My meeting was with the chief alone not 3 chiefs. He was a complete gentleman and I felt bad for wasting his time for it.
Bat93 said
Aug 9, 2013
Iw0an2to3ut wrote:
I was notified to appear at 1PP in dress uniform. I didn't request anything. Like I said though, mine was what they called a pre-carb hearing. My meeting was with the chief alone not 3 chiefs. He was a complete gentleman and I felt bad for wasting his time for it.
From what I've heard, anyone with something negative in their file will go before a panel of 3 chiefs, who will then determine your fitness for promotion. I hear you can't defend your actions, just admit guilt and take any flogging they may give you. I'll tell you more after mine next week.
You have three (3) try's to go before the board for promotion. Majority of the time most people only have to go before the board once, take their licks, and move on to get promoted.
If you don't "fix" what ever the board determines is preventing you from being promoted after your third visit, they'll make the recommendation to the PC for you not to be promoted and ultimately he has the final say. Insp Jones runs the show down there and from what I hear she makes it a pleasurable experience.
I can only assume that if the board determines you are ready for promotion, after the 1st, 2nd or 3rd visit, they also have to submit this to the PC who again has final say.
Question? Do you have to go in front of the board for a B CD
Not getting promoted???
Good luck!
Assuming next Thursday
Thank you
Good luck man. Hope everything works out.
Im sorry to disappoint you but it's now Deputy Chief Jones now and shes now X.O. of PBBS so sorry I don't think you will have the pleasure of talking to her at 1 PP
Godzilla, since the above was your first post on this forum (under this name), let me enlighten you... The post written by Suntrust that you quoted was written LAST YEAR on June 6, 2012. So, DC Jones was Insp Jones at that time.
Chief Morales is who I met with, it was a pre carb hearing. Pretty much to determine if I was going forward or going to carb. Chief Morales is/was a gentleman. Spoke to me like an adult and listened as well. I have to say he was more than fair and again a gentleman. Good luck just don't BS him if you go. Own up to everything, take responsibility and hopefully you will move forward quickly.
-- Edited by Iw0an2to3ut on Saturday 3rd of August 2013 01:58:56 AM
Does anyone know how CARB works? I've been told you need to request a hearing. Is that true? Or do they automatically schedule you for one when you're clear?
Thanks. I'm just trying to see how the entire process works from the beginning. Do you remember if you requested a hearing or were you automatically scheduled for it?
thanks. Every little bit of info helps.