take home cars really arent all they are cracked up to be, yea you save a ton of money on gas, but they can be a bigger head ache then they are worth. The problem is this jobs way of thinking. No one wants to be a captain, so lets make the lieutenants miserable to motivate them to study. Instead of making the captain rank more appealing.
-- Edited by habidasheryauto4 on Sunday 6th of May 2012 11:26:23 PM
brat4914 said
May 7, 2012
is anyone really studying for this thing???????????
NYPD231 said
May 7, 2012
Just you. Good luck.
wereinbacklog said
May 7, 2012
Im my command only 3 Lieutenants out of 9 are causually studying for it. Its going to be another small list.
NYPD231 said
May 7, 2012
Zero out of nine where I work.
wereinbacklog said
May 7, 2012
Good luck Brat.
brat4914 said
May 7, 2012
LOL.........at times i think it is just me......low interest
stiggityone said
May 7, 2012
This test has a record low amount of people that signed up for it...408 I believe. And even that number is inflated bacause I know several people who took the 2011 Lt's exam who signed up for this Capt's exam in the event they got promoted prior to the test (which ain't happening). So in reality that 408 is really like 380...and out of those 380 less than half are really studying hard. I see a repeat of the 2010 Capt's test....75-100 person list and another exam in mid 2014.
brat4914 said
May 7, 2012
450 is the actual paid........i anticipate at least 100 stay in bed that morning......a grand majority aren't studying like they should..........and even myself, not sure I want it..........they dont make it appealing thats for sure.
Actually I never even thought about those who figured they would get promoted in time from the 06 Lt exam......wow, thats a whole other bank of people who can stay home that day.
wereinbacklog said
May 7, 2012
brat4914 wrote:
450 is the actual paid........i anticipate at least 100 stay in bed that morning......a grand majority aren't studying like they should..........and even myself, not sure I want it..........they dont make it appealing thats for sure.
Actually I never even thought about those who figured they would get promoted in time from the 06 Lt exam......wow, thats a whole other bank of people who can stay home that day.
Thats insane and sad at the same time.
NextLtTest said
May 7, 2012
The only way to get a good turn out for another capt. exam, ever, is to give all persons in the rank of capt. a take home car. That is the only way I would ever study. Or if the overtime rules were changed. Like maybe instead of all time a third of it could be cash and two thirds could be time. It is time for some shaking-up to occur from that union.
wereinbacklog said
May 7, 2012
NextLtTest wrote:
The only way to get a good turn out for another capt. exam, ever, is to give all persons in the rank of capt. a take home car. That is the only way I would ever study. Or if the overtime rules were changed. Like maybe instead of all time a third of it could be cash and two thirds could be time. It is time for some shaking-up to occur from that union.
Or do the more logical thing that the department is implementing which is screw with the Lt rank lol.
unborn said
May 18, 2012
Good luck on Saturday, brat.
brat4914 said
May 18, 2012
Thank you
Rblack244 said
May 19, 2012
Good Luck.. Give it your best, that's all you can do.
habidasheryauto10 said
May 20, 2012
Any word yet? Was the test a Magilla or fair?
vongor said
May 20, 2012
It was fair.... I should have studied!!!!
TiNmAn said
May 20, 2012
One would think they would make this exam fair so they have as much eligibles as possible however this job would do the exact opposite.
brat4914 said
May 22, 2012
325 sat for the exam
wereinbacklog said
May 22, 2012
brat4914 wrote:
325 sat for the exam
Another one hundred something list. Test in about 3 years lol.
brat4914 said
Jun 2, 2012
hearing 98 passed
wereinbacklog said
Jun 2, 2012
brat4914 wrote:
hearing 98 passed
Not bad considering it doesn't include those that will pass after throwouts.
stiggityone said
Jun 2, 2012
And it means another test in 2-3 years which is good for anyone on our list interested in a capt's exam.
wereinbacklog said
Jun 2, 2012
stiggityone wrote:
And it means another test in 2-3 years which is good for anyone on our list interested in a capt's exam.
True, are you planning on taking it if given the chance?
On Point Info said
Jun 2, 2012
From what I remember I dont think there will be any throwouts.
brat4914 said
Jun 2, 2012
in 2 questions they used names of old units that were changed via Organization Guide Interim Orders............so maybe them, but still not sure they had much to do with the right/wrong-ness of the questions......other than that, not much else
stiggityone said
Jun 2, 2012
Not sure backlog. At one point I was but I have 6 month old twins...I'd rather see them grow up then be married to the job. I dunno....see what happens. U?
wereinbacklog said
Jun 2, 2012
stiggityone wrote:
Not sure backlog. At one point I was but I have 6 month old twins...I'd rather see them grow up then be married to the job. I dunno....see what happens. U?
I'll probably give it a shot but it all depends on where I end up as Lt. By the way, congrats with the new additions to the family.
NYG37 said
Jun 2, 2012
Unreal, while captain's test was just given brat already heard 98, while we 7 months later have no idea.
technocrat1 said
Jun 2, 2012
hope gunz is helping you baby sit Stig. lol
CIMS4life said
Jun 2, 2012
The less than 100 seems to be accurate...although if only 365 sat, those numbers aren't really that bad. Last test was 500 takers, and only 65 or so legitimately passed. Truth is...the test was as fair as a Captains exam could be. If you studied hard, you will be on this list. As far as throwouts, I'm sure there will be a couple...but in the end you will prob wind up with a list very similar to the last exam, which I believe was 128 when all was said and done. As far as the rank of Captain, we all know what we're getting into if we pass...hopefully they will make some changes to the rank that will make it more appealing to everyone. Personally, I think the majority of us are only doing it for the pension anyway. Also, I am lucky I come close to 100 O/T hours a year as a Lt., so for me, I'd rather make the $160,000 and not worry about trying to pry O/T from the folks who get the majority of it anyway. Just my opinion.
brat4914 said
Jun 2, 2012
only 325 sat........
last capt exam, only 15% of who showed passed (raw)
and this exam, 30% of who showed passed
wereinbacklog said
Jun 2, 2012
CIMS4life wrote:
The less than 100 seems to be accurate...although if only 365 sat, those numbers aren't really that bad. Last test was 500 takers, and only 65 or so legitimately passed. Truth is...the test was as fair as a Captains exam could be. If you studied hard, you will be on this list. As far as throwouts, I'm sure there will be a couple...but in the end you will prob wind up with a list very similar to the last exam, which I believe was 128 when all was said and done. As far as the rank of Captain, we all know what we're getting into if we pass...hopefully they will make some changes to the rank that will make it more appealing to everyone. Personally, I think the majority of us are only doing it for the pension anyway. Also, I am lucky I come close to 100 O/T hours a year as a Lt., so for me, I'd rather make the $160,000 and not worry about trying to pry O/T from the folks who get the majority of it anyway. Just my opinion.
Cims4life, what changes do you think the deparment can implement to make the rank more appealing? Serious question by the way.
CIMS4life said
Jun 2, 2012
Wow...that's a tough question. I don't know if I answer that. I would say that the majority of issues revolve around losing the CASH overtime when you make the jump, and the schedule regarding RDO's, working different tours during the week, not being able to get day off, etc. And then there's always the people who have families who are going to lose time with their loved ones. With all that being said, I can't see the job giving Captains cash O/T, the schedule is the schedule, you just have to make it work for you as best you can...and as far as not seeing your family, I don't really think the job gives a damn...lol. By the way, I haven't even touched on any of the COMPSTAT stresses that these guys go through.
I guess to try and answer your question, I would say start giving Captains cash overtime (on some level) would prob be the biggest motivator...maybe getting a take home car if you make the rank of Captain (that would be a nice perk). We all know COMPSTAT isn't going away so I won't even go there...lol. The bottom line is...no one wants to lose money (again, that is not my situation) to begin working crazy schedules and get beat downs at COMPSTAT, TRAFFICSTAT, and every other stat. If I wind up passing on the 18th when the answers come out, I am all in, knowing full well what I am getting into. I've thought about it, and for me it's where I'd like to be.
wereinbacklog said
Jun 3, 2012
CIMS4life wrote:
Wow...that's a tough question. I don't know if I answer that. I would say that the majority of issues revolve around losing the CASH overtime when you make the jump, and the schedule regarding RDO's, working different tours during the week, not being able to get day off, etc. And then there's always the people who have families who are going to lose time with their loved ones. With all that being said, I can't see the job giving Captains cash O/T, the schedule is the schedule, you just have to make it work for you as best you can...and as far as not seeing your family, I don't really think the job gives a damn...lol. By the way, I haven't even touched on any of the COMPSTAT stresses that these guys go through.
I guess to try and answer your question, I would say start giving Captains cash overtime (on some level) would prob be the biggest motivator...maybe getting a take home car if you make the rank of Captain (that would be a nice perk). We all know COMPSTAT isn't going away so I won't even go there...lol. The bottom line is...no one wants to lose money (again, that is not my situation) to begin working crazy schedules and get beat downs at COMPSTAT, TRAFFICSTAT, and every other stat. If I wind up passing on the 18th when the answers come out, I am all in, knowing full well what I am getting into. I've thought about it, and for me it's where I'd like to be.
I hear you on that. It sad that despite all the options you've mentioned the department has chosen to mess around with the Lt rank instead. Either way they need to do something to entice people to take the rank unless they're satisfied giving a Captain exam every 2 years. Anyhow, good luck on the 18th.
CIMS4life said
Jun 4, 2012
Hey...good luck to you as well.
unborn said
Jun 4, 2012
stiggityone wrote:
And it means another test in 2-3 years which is good for anyone on our list interested in a capt's exam.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the next capt test is given and our list still isn't out.
natou said
Jun 6, 2012
LIST WILL BE OUT TOMORROW WEDNESDAY JUNE 6TH, 2012.
getalife said
Jun 8, 2012
natou wrote:
LIST WILL BE OUT TOMORROW WEDNESDAY JUNE 6TH, 2012.
You have never been right about anything. Just stop posting.
wereinbacklog said
Jun 10, 2012
Someone posted on Examx that only 65 passed this exam any truth to that?
CIMS4life said
Jun 16, 2012
Hearing 63...it's safe to say they will play around with the throwouts and double answers and bring that to at least 100-120...same as last exam. We will know in 3 days.
brat4914 said
Jun 16, 2012
there isnt much to play around with
oneadditional said
Jun 16, 2012
Many people thought that there was not much to change with the lieutenants exam and we ended up with 20 changes so we will see. I'm hearing 98 passed so they will probably end up with the same number of people who passed from the 2010 exam which won't necessarily mean another captains exam around the corner because this one is really dragging or will it ?
brat4914 said
Jun 16, 2012
Are you kidding re: the lieutenants exam?????
Everyone I spoke to figured there would be TONS of changes......what Lt exam are you talking about?
This was a very well written exam.......i say 2-3 changes at most, if any
oneadditional said
Jun 16, 2012
I knew there were going to be many changes but many people thought you couldn't argue some of the questions.
brat4914 said
Jun 16, 2012
I think they knew they F'd up so they had to do something..........that whole test and surrounding events were unique and not at all customary to any other exam........and hopefully never happen again
oneadditional said
Jun 18, 2012
They promoted only 67 names in 2 years so far ? Insane
wereinbacklog said
Jun 18, 2012
oneadditional wrote:
They promoted only 67 names in 2 years so far ? Insane
Actually in one year, first class went in April of last year if I'm not mistaken.
wereinbacklog said
Jun 18, 2012
By the way, at this rate they'll finish the list in another year or so and if in fact 98 passed the latest exam that's another additional 1.5 years of promotions. Most likely another exam in approximately 2 years.
oneadditional said
Jun 18, 2012
67 for one year really is not bad. Yes I agree if only 98 passed we should see another captains exam in the near future.
take home cars really arent all they are cracked up to be, yea you save a ton of money on gas, but they can be a bigger head ache then they are worth. The problem is this jobs way of thinking. No one wants to be a captain, so lets make the lieutenants miserable to motivate them to study. Instead of making the captain rank more appealing.
-- Edited by habidasheryauto4 on Sunday 6th of May 2012 11:26:23 PM
is anyone really studying for this thing???????????
LOL.........at times i think it is just me......low interest
450 is the actual paid........i anticipate at least 100 stay in bed that morning......a grand majority aren't studying like they should..........and even myself, not sure I want it..........they dont make it appealing thats for sure.
Actually I never even thought about those who figured they would get promoted in time from the 06 Lt exam......wow, thats a whole other bank of people who can stay home that day.
Thats insane and sad at the same time.
Or do the more logical thing that the department is implementing which is screw with the Lt rank lol.
Thank you
Good Luck.. Give it your best, that's all you can do.
325 sat for the exam
Another one hundred something list. Test in about 3 years lol.
hearing 98 passed
Not bad considering it doesn't include those that will pass after throwouts.
True, are you planning on taking it if given the chance?
in 2 questions they used names of old units that were changed via Organization Guide Interim Orders............so maybe them, but still not sure they had much to do with the right/wrong-ness of the questions......other than that, not much else
I'll probably give it a shot but it all depends on where I end up as Lt. By the way, congrats with the new additions to the family.
The less than 100 seems to be accurate...although if only 365 sat, those numbers aren't really that bad. Last test was 500 takers, and only 65 or so legitimately passed. Truth is...the test was as fair as a Captains exam could be. If you studied hard, you will be on this list. As far as throwouts, I'm sure there will be a couple...but in the end you will prob wind up with a list very similar to the last exam, which I believe was 128 when all was said and done. As far as the rank of Captain, we all know what we're getting into if we pass...hopefully they will make some changes to the rank that will make it more appealing to everyone. Personally, I think the majority of us are only doing it for the pension anyway. Also, I am lucky I come close to 100 O/T hours a year as a Lt., so for me, I'd rather make the $160,000 and not worry about trying to pry O/T from the folks who get the majority of it anyway. Just my opinion.
only 325 sat........
last capt exam, only 15% of who showed passed (raw)
and this exam, 30% of who showed passed
Cims4life, what changes do you think the deparment can implement to make the rank more appealing? Serious question by the way.
Wow...that's a tough question. I don't know if I answer that. I would say that the majority of issues revolve around losing the CASH overtime when you make the jump, and the schedule regarding RDO's, working different tours during the week, not being able to get day off, etc. And then there's always the people who have families who are going to lose time with their loved ones. With all that being said, I can't see the job giving Captains cash O/T, the schedule is the schedule, you just have to make it work for you as best you can...and as far as not seeing your family, I don't really think the job gives a damn...lol. By the way, I haven't even touched on any of the COMPSTAT stresses that these guys go through.
I guess to try and answer your question, I would say start giving Captains cash overtime (on some level) would prob be the biggest motivator...maybe getting a take home car if you make the rank of Captain (that would be a nice perk). We all know COMPSTAT isn't going away so I won't even go there...lol. The bottom line is...no one wants to lose money (again, that is not my situation) to begin working crazy schedules and get beat downs at COMPSTAT, TRAFFICSTAT, and every other stat. If I wind up passing on the 18th when the answers come out, I am all in, knowing full well what I am getting into. I've thought about it, and for me it's where I'd like to be.
I hear you on that. It sad that despite all the options you've mentioned the department has chosen to mess around with the Lt rank instead. Either way they need to do something to entice people to take the rank unless they're satisfied giving a Captain exam every 2 years. Anyhow, good luck on the 18th.
Hey...good luck to you as well.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the next capt test is given and our list still isn't out.
You have never been right about anything. Just stop posting.
Hearing 63...it's safe to say they will play around with the throwouts and double answers and bring that to at least 100-120...same as last exam. We will know in 3 days.
there isnt much to play around with
Are you kidding re: the lieutenants exam?????
Everyone I spoke to figured there would be TONS of changes......what Lt exam are you talking about?
This was a very well written exam.......i say 2-3 changes at most, if any
I think they knew they F'd up so they had to do something..........that whole test and surrounding events were unique and not at all customary to any other exam........and hopefully never happen again
They promoted only 67 names in 2 years so far ? Insane
Actually in one year, first class went in April of last year if I'm not mistaken.