any new rumors for those of you who have inside info
brat4914 said
Jan 28, 2012
i have been asking around and i got nothin !
sorry
doctorjay said
Jan 28, 2012
i heard 8 throw outs and 5 double answers. anybody hear this?
Lostinspace said
Jan 28, 2012
I heard 8 and 5 is a done deal. The list will come out in March also they will reopen filing date for 2012 Captain test to allow those who made the Lt list to file for the Captain exam. It came from two good sources both 1PP.
18and1 said
Jan 28, 2012
Any clue what question were thrown out?
wereinbacklog said
Jan 28, 2012
Lostinspace wrote:
I heard 8 and 5 is a done deal. The list will come out in March also they will reopen filing date for 2012 Captain test to allow those who made the Lt list to file for the Captain exam. It came from two good sources both 1PP.
Doesn't that imply that they'll promote of this list prior to the Captain exam? What's the use of reopening the filing period if we won't be eligible to take it?
brat4914 said
Jan 28, 2012
that damned panel was only put together very recently, like in the past week. They have to read all those protests.
Trust me, there are no numbers of throw outs floating around yet.......but if you want to fantasize, don't let me stop you
Bigsteel said
Jan 28, 2012
After reading this I had to post my text from a friends with kind of corroborates the 8 double answers. This is the actual text from a friend. I didn't even ask where this came from but I was happy with those numbers. "Yo these are the questions they r going to throw out 4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100 Just so u know this is not a rumor"
Lostinspace said
Jan 28, 2012
If you read a notice of examination for the CAPT test you'll see that they change the qualifications. You no longer have to be lt but you have to be on a lt list only. Anyone who is on the list will qualify to take the test. The reason is a lack of candidats.
brat4914 said
Jan 28, 2012
well if that isnt the biggest lie ive heard in awhile.......friday night - people sitting home with a 6-pack spreading false rumors cause they have nothing better to do i guess
Rocket said
Jan 28, 2012
Anyone ever hear of any test list coming out in less than year with active list still out?
wereinbacklog said
Jan 28, 2012
brat4914 wrote:
well if that isnt the biggest lie ive heard in awhile.......friday night - people sitting home with a 6-pack spreading false rumors cause they have nothing better to do i guess
That's the same wording for every promotional exam, you need one day in rank to be eligible for promotion. In other words, if you take the Capt exam as a sergeant you wont get promoted. No bueno lol. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
Stanza said
Jan 28, 2012
Does anyone know the #'s of the 5 double answers? Thanx
brat4914 said
Jan 28, 2012
for captains exam........
you need one day in rank as a Lt to take exam...........2 years in rank as Lt to get promoted if you pass said captains exam.
and if you take that captains exam at any other rank, well sorry, you just donated you $$ to DCAS
stiggityone said
Jan 28, 2012
Bigsteel wrote:
After reading this I had to post my text from a friends with kind of corroborates the 8 double answers. This is the actual text from a friend. I didn't even ask where this came from but I was happy with those numbers. "Yo these are the questions they r going to throw out 4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100 Just so u know this is not a rumor"
I would take your text with a grain of salt. I was sent the same text about two weeks ago, before the protest period even started. It's bull****.
doctorjay said
Jan 28, 2012
i posted that because my source has not been wrong on anything dating back to the leaked dcas key, which was spot on (ouch). if you look at these #s they are some of the most talked about questions so this can be possible. the protest period is until 12-31-11 so who knows when the damned panel was put together.
MN50 said
Jan 28, 2012
The guy wrote "just so you know it's not a rumor," so you know it must be true.
nycop80 said
Jan 29, 2012
patience.
JustWonderin said
Jan 30, 2012
stiggityone wrote:
Bigsteel wrote:
After reading this I had to post my text from a friends with kind of corroborates the 8 double answers. This is the actual text from a friend. I didn't even ask where this came from but I was happy with those numbers. "Yo these are the questions they r going to throw out 4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100 Just so u know this is not a rumor"
I would take your text with a grain of salt. I was sent the same text about two weeks ago, before the protest period even started. It's bull****.
Normally I would think the same. BS. But I can't help but think, maybe they have the THROWOUTS identified already. The double answers are the ones that really have to be debated and identified by the review panel. But maybe DCAS knows which ones are throwouts already just because it was a bad question.
wereinbacklog said
Jan 30, 2012
JustWonderin wrote:
stiggityone wrote:
Bigsteel wrote:
After reading this I had to post my text from a friends with kind of corroborates the 8 double answers. This is the actual text from a friend. I didn't even ask where this came from but I was happy with those numbers. "Yo these are the questions they r going to throw out 4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100 Just so u know this is not a rumor"
I would take your text with a grain of salt. I was sent the same text about two weeks ago, before the protest period even started. It's bull****.
Normally I would think the same. BS. But I can't help but think, maybe they have the THROWOUTS identified already. The double answers are the ones that really have to be debated and identified by the review panel. But maybe DCAS knows which ones are throwouts already just because it was a bad question.
That argument seems reasonable considering I've never seen a tentative answer key with double answers in it.
NYPD231 said
Jan 30, 2012
Bigsteel wrote:
After reading this I had to post my text from a friends with kind of corroborates the 8 double answers. This is the actual text from a friend. I didn't even ask where this came from but I was happy with those numbers. "Yo these are the questions they r going to throw out 4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100 Just so u know this is not a rumor"
I wouldn't mind that- I got all of them wrong. I do love the "Just so u know this is not a rumor" part of the message!
ImDrained said
Jan 31, 2012
lol
ImDrained said
Jan 31, 2012
MN50 wrote:
The guy wrote "just so you know it's not a rumor," so you know it must be true.
lol
ImDrained said
Feb 1, 2012
After the protest period is over, a Test Validation Board (TVB) consisting of representatives of the employing agency(ies), bargaining unit (i.e., UNION) and DCAS, Bureau of Examinations is convened to review all protests. The TVB is empowered by Section 50-A of the New York State Civil Service Law, to change key answers, allow duplicate or multiple answers, or delete items from the test. After all protests are reviewed, the TVB prepares a report detailing its findings. After the eligible list has been established, all candidates who submitted protests will be called in to read the TVB Reports. The determinations made by the TVB are binding. Therefore, no further changes will be entertained.
My question: Do anyone know anyone in the SBA (or would it be the (LBA) who represents)to see if the TVB has been established? I know absolutely noone in the SBA
big guy said
Feb 1, 2012
Doesnt matter--the sba doesnt give a crap about its members to begin with let alone get involved with this debacle...all they care about is there extra $ in their paycheck
Abeyance said
Feb 1, 2012
Correct, either 1 day in rank or on a 'preferred list'.
that list is not the same as the lt. list you might be on but the following:
1400 ELIGIBLE LISTS
1450 PREFERRED LISTS
.1 BACKGROUND
.110 Description and Legal Basis
Generally preferred lists contain the names of former permanent employees of the State who have been separated due to reductions in force, reorganizations, reassignments or disability. Specifically, permanent employees may obtain preferred list rights pursuant to the following:
CSL §81.1 provides preferred list rights for employees who are suspended or demoted pursuant to CSL §80 or 80-a.
CSL §71 provides preferred list rights for employees separated after a leave of absence of more than one year due to a disability as defined in the worker's compensation law, who are now able to return to work but have not been reinstated.
CSL §73 provides preferred list rights for employees separated after a leave of absence of more than one year due to an ordinary disability, who are now able to return to work but have not been reinstated.
CSR 4.11 and 4.12 provide preferred list rights for employees appointed contingent permanent pursuant to these two rules who are subsequently separated due to the return of the prior permanent incumbent of the position.
CSL §70.2 provides preferred list rights for employees who are separated due to a transfer of function between State Departments or Agencies and/or Civil Divisions of the State.
Ret. and S.S. Law §102 c. provides preferred list rights for employees receiving disability retirement benefits who are determined to be able to return to active service.
Ret. and S.S. Law §507 d. provides preferred list rights for employees receiving accidental disability benefits whose benefits have ceased.
Civil Service policy grants preferred list rights to employees who refuse to accept an involuntary reassignment to a county other than the one in which currently employed.
doctorjay said
Feb 2, 2012
who the $#$% wants to read that.
stiggityone said
Feb 2, 2012
In regards to this thread... Zzz Zzz
JustWonderin said
Feb 2, 2012
This thread looked like it was picking up when the 8 throwouts and 5 doubles came about. Now its dead again
Bumpy said
Feb 3, 2012
so last we heard it was a possible 8 plus 5 double... someone posted possible 8 throwouts... any one have any possible info on double answers ... we do understand these are not concrete but wondering whats been floating around in other pct's....
Bumpy said
Feb 3, 2012
4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100
any idea which questions these were?.. somone on the site said 89 is eday questions
Stanza said
Feb 3, 2012
47 is Dept vehicle accident 63 is PINS 15 is who do u pick for conditions Sgt spot
hollar said
Feb 3, 2012
DAAAMMMMM, the 53 on the Williamsburgh bridge isn't going to be a throw out?!?!?!?!!
18and1 said
Feb 3, 2012
13 was who do you send to sit on the hospitalized prisoner.
tensixone said
Feb 3, 2012
77, 100 were judgement questions
doctorjay said
Feb 3, 2012
all of those were protested questions.
Bumpy said
Feb 4, 2012
#4 i remember some people referring to as a double answer early on..
18and1 said
Feb 5, 2012
4 may have been the mobilization point. I want to say 100 was the judgement question with authorizing overtime.
nycop80 said
Feb 5, 2012
question 77 and 100 were judgement with the answers authorizing admin OT, i know because i protested both.
any new rumors for those of you who have inside info
i have been asking around and i got nothin !
sorry
i heard 8 throw outs and 5 double answers. anybody hear this?
Doesn't that imply that they'll promote of this list prior to the Captain exam? What's the use of reopening the filing period if we won't be eligible to take it?
that damned panel was only put together very recently, like in the past week. They have to read all those protests.
Trust me, there are no numbers of throw outs floating around yet.......but if you want to fantasize, don't let me stop you
4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100
Just so u know this is not a rumor"
well if that isnt the biggest lie ive heard in awhile.......friday night - people sitting home with a 6-pack spreading false rumors cause they have nothing better to do i guess
Which one brat?
See for it yourself.
did you read the "note" it refers to
That's the same wording for every promotional exam, you need one day in rank to be eligible for promotion. In other words, if you take the Capt exam as a sergeant you wont get promoted. No bueno lol. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
for captains exam........
you need one day in rank as a Lt to take exam...........2 years in rank as Lt to get promoted if you pass said captains exam.
and if you take that captains exam at any other rank, well sorry, you just donated you $$ to DCAS
I would take your text with a grain of salt. I was sent the same text about two weeks ago, before the protest period even started. It's bull****.
Normally I would think the same. BS. But I can't help but think, maybe they have the THROWOUTS identified already. The double answers are the ones that really have to be debated and identified by the review panel. But maybe DCAS knows which ones are throwouts already just because it was a bad question.That argument seems reasonable considering I've never seen a tentative answer key with double answers in it.
I wouldn't mind that- I got all of them wrong. I do love the "Just so u know this is not a rumor" part of the message!
lol
lol
My question: Do anyone know anyone in the SBA (or would it be the (LBA) who represents)to see if the TVB has been established? I know absolutely noone in the SBA
Doesnt matter--the sba doesnt give a crap about its members to begin with let alone get involved with this debacle...all they care about is there extra $ in their paycheck
Correct, either 1 day in rank or on a 'preferred list'.
that list is not the same as the lt. list you might be on but the following:
1400 ELIGIBLE LISTS
1450 PREFERRED LISTS
.1 BACKGROUND
.110 Description and Legal Basis
Generally preferred lists contain the names of former permanent employees of the State who have been separated due to reductions in force, reorganizations, reassignments or disability. Specifically, permanent employees may obtain preferred list rights pursuant to the following:
receiving disability retirement benefits who are determined to be able
to return to active service.
who the $#$% wants to read that.
so last we heard it was a possible 8 plus 5 double... someone posted possible 8 throwouts... any one have any possible info on double answers ... we do understand these are not concrete but wondering whats been floating around in other pct's....
4,13,15,47,63,77,89,100
any idea which questions these were?.. somone on the site said 89 is eday questions
#4 i remember some people referring to as a double answer early on..