Question 26 was the aided in the nursing home according to makethelist. The question locked you into 216-01 which says for the cop to give the aided to the command clerk, but 216-01 has a revision notice within that says to follow 216-02 for the preparation of aided cards----which would make the right answer for the cop to give the aided to the Desk to review/sign before it is given to the cmd clerk. I think the proposed key has the answer as give aided to command clerk, but I'm not sure. Is this another possible double answer in a case where the idiots who wrote the test misread another PG procedure? Or was the answer something else?
nycop80 said
Nov 28, 2011
No answer said give aided to command clerk. There was wait 20 minutes call ambulance again Do aided give to desk. Make activity log entry of acr/pcr. Or just go 98
notmakingit said
Nov 28, 2011
cop80 do you know which was the correct choice as per the proposed key? Thanks. I am trying to scramble for some points here.
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
I believe the correct answer was to put the acr # in the activity log. I believe they should have put acr or pcr # because the body of the question didn't give you enough info to know that it was an acr #.
nycop80 said
Nov 29, 2011
Yes
oneadditional said
Nov 29, 2011
What acr # ? There was no bus on scene
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
What acr # ? There was no bus on scene
That's exactly why it should be a throw out.
nycop80 said
Nov 29, 2011
I agree
oneadditional said
Nov 29, 2011
I'm protesting this. This is getting out of control.
WANNABELT said
Nov 29, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
I'm protesting this. This is getting out of control.
Ironic.
RISING IDIOT said
Nov 29, 2011
Guys, I dropped a lot of easy ones but I don't think you have a case here. The lady almost choked to death...an ambulance was coming and you weren't leaving until it did. ACR in you A/L was the only correct answer.
Not trying to stir the pot just making an observation. I was pissed about the ECB question and planned to protest but I realized I really don't have an argument there
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
RISING IDIOT wrote:
Guys, I dropped a lot of easy ones but I don't think you have a case here. The lady almost choked to death...an ambulance was coming and you weren't leaving until it did. ACR in you A/L was the only correct answer.
Not trying to stir the pot just making an observation. I was pissed about the ECB question and planned to protest but I realized I really don't have an argument there
The body of the story told us an ambulance was called but it didn't tell us she was removed by the ambulance. The more correct answer would have been to make a a/l entry with the ACR or PCR number. Just because the ambulance was called doesn't mean she was removed by it. It's not our responsibilty to assume on these test, it's what they give us and nothing more or less. The key's recent email with the examples of successful protest has a similar example.
nycop80 said
Nov 29, 2011
IF this is correct , but 216-01 has a revision notice within that says to follow 216-02 for the preparation of aided cards----which would make the right answer for the cop to give the aided to the Desk to review/sign before it is given to the cmd clerk, then , it would be a double answer.
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
nycop80 wrote:
IF this is correct , but 216-01 has a revision notice within that says to follow 216-02 for the preparation of aided cards----which would make the right answer for the cop to give the aided to the Desk to review/sign before it is given to the cmd clerk, then , it would be a double answer.
216-02 has the cop report the incident to the desk officer, pct of occurrence. It does not specifically tell the cop to deliver the aided to the desk. 216-01 specifically tells the cop to deliver the aided to the command clerk. I think we have a stronger argument trying to get the entire question throw out rather than a double answer.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 29, 2011
Yea, I got the aided one wrong and it was something I knew. I got duped by giving the aided to the desk when its supposed to go to the command clerk. A technicality I knew, but still dropped. ACR/PCR in the A/L was right, don't think its worth a protest...
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
Did it say acr/pcr or did it just say acr? The answer to that question makes the difference. If it only said acr then there is a protest, if not then we're screwed with that point.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 29, 2011
Don't remember, but I going to the protest session tomorrow, so I will try to retain as much as a I can...
TrYAGaiN said
Nov 29, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Don't remember, but I going to the protest session tomorrow, so I will try to retain as much as a I can...
Thank u. That detail makes a major difference.
SCANTRON DETECTIVE said
Nov 29, 2011
That makes no difference. The ambulance was coming. You can not justify any other answer
oneadditional said
Nov 29, 2011
No where in the question did it state that an ambulance was coming. We can not assume. THROWOUT ...... I could say acr was wrong because the officers decided to take her in the rmp if you want to start assuming.
WANNABELT said
Nov 29, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
No where in the question did it state that an ambulance was coming. We can not assume. THROWOUT ...... I could say acr was wrong because the officers decided to take her in the rmp if you want to start assuming.
This question will definitely remain unchanged along with many other difficult questions.
SCANTRON DETECTIVE said
Nov 30, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
No where in the question did it state that an ambulance was coming. We can not assume. THROWOUT ...... I could say acr was wrong because the officers decided to take her in the rmp if you want to start assuming.
Good luck dude. You're grasping at straws
okeedokee said
Nov 30, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
No where in the question did it state that an ambulance was coming. We can not assume. THROWOUT ...... I could say acr was wrong because the officers decided to take her in the rmp if you want to start assuming.
It also did not say that the cop was properly equipped with a black pen. I think you got a shot at that one.
WANNABELT said
Nov 30, 2011
okeedokee wrote:
oneadditional wrote:
No where in the question did it state that an ambulance was coming. We can not assume. THROWOUT ...... I could say acr was wrong because the officers decided to take her in the rmp if you want to start assuming.
It also did not say that the cop was properly equipped with a black pen. I think you got a shot at that one.
Good point.
NYG37 said
Nov 30, 2011
I did protest this question on the basis that the ambulance wasn't there and that we can't assume it arrived therefore we wouldn't get the acr #. I argued that if we aided was removed by rmp we would have been given pcr. rising star representative was prevent in my room and said its a dissent argument.
unborn said
Nov 30, 2011
What exactly is a dissent argument?
Angel1534 said
Nov 30, 2011
I had the same argument, all the choices were incorrect the ambulance never arrive at the scene so we had to assume they did to get the ACR # and put it in the memobook which was the correct answer.
oneadditional said
Dec 1, 2011
GOOD JOB NYG37
-- Edited by oneadditional on Thursday 1st of December 2011 12:21:21 AM
okeedokee said
Dec 1, 2011
unborn wrote:
What exactly is a dissent argument?
Most arguments are dissent.
NYG37 said
Dec 1, 2011
I just wanted the question to be thrown out. I stated there was no correct answer as the last choice was to put acr in you're memo book and go 98 is also incorrect as per definition of what aided case is.
Question 26 was the aided in the nursing home according to makethelist. The question locked you into 216-01 which says for the cop to give the aided to the command clerk, but 216-01 has a revision notice within that says to follow 216-02 for the preparation of aided cards----which would make the right answer for the cop to give the aided to the Desk to review/sign before it is given to the cmd clerk. I think the proposed key has the answer as give aided to command clerk, but I'm not sure. Is this another possible double answer in a case where the idiots who wrote the test misread another PG procedure? Or was the answer something else?
Do aided give to desk. Make activity log entry of acr/pcr. Or just go 98
I believe the correct answer was to put the acr # in the activity log. I believe they should have put acr or pcr # because the body of the question didn't give you enough info to know that it was an acr #.
That's exactly why it should be a throw out.
Ironic.
Not trying to stir the pot just making an observation. I was pissed about the ECB question and planned to protest but I realized I really don't have an argument there
The body of the story told us an ambulance was called but it didn't tell us she was removed by the ambulance. The more correct answer would have been to make a a/l entry with the ACR or PCR number. Just because the ambulance was called doesn't mean she was removed by it. It's not our responsibilty to assume on these test, it's what they give us and nothing more or less. The key's recent email with the examples of successful protest has a similar example.
216-02 has the cop report the incident to the desk officer, pct of occurrence. It does not specifically tell the cop to deliver the aided to the desk. 216-01 specifically tells the cop to deliver the aided to the command clerk. I think we have a stronger argument trying to get the entire question throw out rather than a double answer.
Thank u. That detail makes a major difference.
This question will definitely remain unchanged along with many other difficult questions.
Good luck dude. You're grasping at straws
It also did not say that the cop was properly equipped with a black pen. I think you got a shot at that one.
Good point.
I had the same argument, all the choices were incorrect the ambulance never arrive at the scene so we had to assume they did to get the ACR # and put it in the memobook which was the correct answer.
GOOD JOB NYG37
-- Edited by oneadditional on Thursday 1st of December 2011 12:21:21 AM
Most arguments are dissent.