Technically all the in basket vouchers were Bad and deserved NO signature.
oneadditional said
Nov 5, 2011
According to 218-01 #12 Sign invoice verifying accuracy and COMPLETENESS....none of them had 61 numbers and they all needed one.
NextLtTest said
Nov 5, 2011
How does an incorrect invoice need a 61#? They were all missing pse#'s. That makes them all wrong.
outat20 said
Nov 5, 2011
you won't win that arguement, bc they will say "least" or "most" correct...
fodx said
Nov 5, 2011
outat20, no thats not true. From what I remember it said "which invoice should the desk officer sign off on?" It wasnt one of those "which is the LEST or MOST correct" questions. So technically he shouldlnt have signed off on any of them. These guys are right.
s2h said
Nov 5, 2011
does anyone remember what number that question was
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 5, 2011
I don't remember the number, just that it was in the in basket so it had to be within the first 17 questions. Anyway, another waste of a protest, the weed invoice was the only one that even came close to being complete and properly prepared.
Counterfeit money? Should never of even got an invoice, should have gotten 4 49's to the PB, 1 of the 49's as a receipt for the PB keeping the fake bill.
Cell phone with tampered IMEI#? They were correct to invoice it, but incorrect to invoice it as "safekeeping", should have been "investigatory"
The gun? Mostly correct, except the bullet in the chamber should not get itemized ahead of the magazine. Mag should have been item#2 and bullet in chamber as item#3.
The weed was the only good one. The only error I saw was lack of 61#, but they all had that, cop's tax# (in the PG it still says shield#, but the PCI's have captions for tax#, and they all had that) and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Don't waste time on protesting something you can't possibly win, move on to the other 50+ questions that were total nonsense...
smartcookie said
Nov 5, 2011
NextLtTest wrote:
How does an incorrect invoice need a 61#? They were all missing pse#'s. That makes them all wrong.
The marijuana voucher did have a PSE and a Narco Envelope number
RISING IDIOT said
Nov 5, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
I don't remember the number, just that it was in the in basket so it had to be within the first 17 questions. Anyway, another waste of a protest, the weed invoice was the only one that even came close to being complete and properly prepared.
Counterfeit money? Should never of even got an invoice, should have gotten 4 49's to the PB, 1 of the 49's as a receipt for the PB keeping the fake bill.
Cell phone with tampered IMEI#? They were correct to invoice it, but incorrect to invoice it as "safekeeping", should have been "investigatory"
The gun? Mostly correct, except the bullet in the chamber should not get itemized ahead of the magazine. Mag should have been item#2 and bullet in chamber as item#3.
The weed was the only good one. The only error I saw was lack of 61#, but they all had that, cop's tax# (in the PG it still says shield#, but the PCI's have captions for tax#, and they all had that) and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Don't waste time on protesting something you can't possibly win, move on to the other 50+ questions that were total nonsense...
the gun also had the wrong description in the article line. It said Glock 19 ser#1234 (don't remember the numbers). It should have said glock pistol ser#1234. That was a recent interim order. Colt revolver, s&w pistol...etc
outat20 said
Nov 5, 2011
RISING IDIOT wrote:
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
I don't remember the number, just that it was in the in basket so it had to be within the first 17 questions. Anyway, another waste of a protest, the weed invoice was the only one that even came close to being complete and properly prepared.
Counterfeit money? Should never of even got an invoice, should have gotten 4 49's to the PB, 1 of the 49's as a receipt for the PB keeping the fake bill.
Cell phone with tampered IMEI#? They were correct to invoice it, but incorrect to invoice it as "safekeeping", should have been "investigatory"
The gun? Mostly correct, except the bullet in the chamber should not get itemized ahead of the magazine. Mag should have been item#2 and bullet in chamber as item#3.
The weed was the only good one. The only error I saw was lack of 61#, but they all had that, cop's tax# (in the PG it still says shield#, but the PCI's have captions for tax#, and they all had that) and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Don't waste time on protesting something you can't possibly win, move on to the other 50+ questions that were total nonsense...
the gun also had the wrong description in the article line. It said Glock 19 ser#1234 (don't remember the numbers). It should have said glock pistol ser#1234. That was a recent interim order. Colt revolver, s&w pistol...etc
It wasn't wrong bc of that, If I remember correctly, it didn't have the magazine listed as item #2 like it was suppose to
broncos7 said
Nov 5, 2011
The weed was no good because untested marijuna does not go in a zip lock bag. order goes
iem1 postive tested in ziplock bag
iem 2 negtive tested zip lock bad (if applicable)
iem 3 any other marijuna placed in the bag(not in a ziplockbag)
all vouchers bad and test was a bull**** test and i hope they throw it out.
NextLtTest said
Nov 5, 2011
-- Edited by NextLtTest on Sunday 6th of November 2011 01:51:40 AM
HabidasheryAuto said
Nov 5, 2011
marijuana is generally contained in ziplock bags, ziplock bag could have merely been the perps, the cop didnt necessarily put the remaining marijuana in a ziplock bag.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 5, 2011
Silencers go on the same invoice, don't remember if it was itemized in the correct order there though, just remembered the bullet does NOT come before the mag...
Dying06Lt said
Nov 5, 2011
Fyi....Test said it was not testing on dept numbers in the instructions.
OkeeDokee said
Nov 5, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Incorrect.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 5, 2011
Read it again, thats what it says. But I still say the weed invoice was the only one worth signing...
Quack said
Nov 6, 2011
POS get written on the bag containing the marijuana, not on the voucher. Field tested positive goes on the voucher and FTP is a well known way to abbreviate that. gun voucher was bad because magazine should have been item 2 not the bullet. USC voucher should not have been done and cell phone should have been investigatory not safekeeping. The weed voucher was good!
OkeeDokee said
Nov 6, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Read it again, thats what it says. But I still say the weed invoice was the only one worth signing...
You need to read your bible.
RISING IDIOT said
Nov 6, 2011
outat20 wrote:
RISING IDIOT wrote:
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
I don't remember the number, just that it was in the in basket so it had to be within the first 17 questions. Anyway, another waste of a protest, the weed invoice was the only one that even came close to being complete and properly prepared.
Counterfeit money? Should never of even got an invoice, should have gotten 4 49's to the PB, 1 of the 49's as a receipt for the PB keeping the fake bill.
Cell phone with tampered IMEI#? They were correct to invoice it, but incorrect to invoice it as "safekeeping", should have been "investigatory"
The gun? Mostly correct, except the bullet in the chamber should not get itemized ahead of the magazine. Mag should have been item#2 and bullet in chamber as item#3.
The weed was the only good one. The only error I saw was lack of 61#, but they all had that, cop's tax# (in the PG it still says shield#, but the PCI's have captions for tax#, and they all had that) and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Don't waste time on protesting something you can't possibly win, move on to the other 50+ questions that were total nonsense...
the gun also had the wrong description in the article line. It said Glock 19 ser#1234 (don't remember the numbers). It should have said glock pistol ser#1234. That was a recent interim order. Colt revolver, s&w pistol...etc
It wasn't wrong bc of that, If I remember correctly, it didn't have the magazine listed as item #2 like it was suppose to
That was an addittional reason that it was wrong but the description on the article line is absolutely important. It is a recent interim order and The Key went over it in great detail....in addition the order of the items was incorrect
a.List the firearm as item # 1 on line 1 of the WORKSHEET and describe by listing the make, firearm type and serial number (e.g.,
Colt revolver serial number 1234, Mossberg shotgun serial number 4567, etc.).
-- Edited by RISING IDIOT on Sunday 6th of November 2011 08:05:17 AM
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Nov 6, 2011
OkeeDokee wrote:
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Read it again, thats what it says. But I still say the weed invoice was the only one worth signing...
You need to read your bible.
Well if you didn't pick the weed you got it wrong and I got it right. I don't remember them going into details with ziplock bags or not, but "FTP" is a real world abbreviation, not a PG abreviaition if I remember my bible correctly.
Anyway my point is, weed is the answer. If you didn't pick it, you got it wrong. I am sure there are plenty of other questions worth protesting, this just isn't one of them...
OkeeDokee said
Nov 6, 2011
I got it correct. Field Test Positive is written on the invoice line, as quack stated. "POS" should be written on the ziplock itself.
wileone said
Nov 11, 2011
The questions read as 'choose the most/least correct answer'; not thecorrect/incorrect answer. The MOST/LEAST correct answer shows that out of 4 possibilities, although not 100% accurate, may be how the exam writers wanted the test to be written. Example: If the information in choice A is 50% accurate, B is 30%, C is 90% and D is 0%, then choice C is what they wanted. I don't remember the voucher question exactly, but if an answer had 2 mistakes on it, another had 1 mistake, another had 3 mistakes and the last had 2 mistakes on it, then the MOST correct answer would be the voucher with 1 mistake that would be signed off.
OkeeDokee said
Nov 11, 2011
wileone wrote:
The questions read as 'choose the most/least correct answer'; not thecorrect/incorrect answer. The MOST/LEAST correct answer shows that out of 4 possibilities, although not 100% accurate, may be how the exam writers wanted the test to be written. Example: If the information in choice A is 50% accurate, B is 30%, C is 90% and D is 0%, then choice C is what they wanted. I don't remember the voucher question exactly, but if an answer had 2 mistakes on it, another had 1 mistake, another had 3 mistakes and the last had 2 mistakes on it, then the MOST correct answer would be the voucher with 1 mistake that would be signed off.
That's silly. If an officer's name is absent on a voucher, it's not 27.8% incorrect. It's just incorrect. 1 mistake doesn't confer a certain percentage of incorrectness.
wileone said
Nov 11, 2011
OkeeDokee wrote:
That's silly. If an officer's name is absent on a voucher, it's not 27.8% incorrect. It's just incorrect. 1 mistake doesn't confer a certain percentage of incorrectness.
That IS silly. I was just giving an analogy. But like I mentioned, the question reads, what is the least or most correct statement. The test did not ask for an absolute, like what IS the correct or incorrect answer. What i am saying is that the Protest Panel may have need a lot more convicing that what I have been reading as to how people are trying to protest. Those "most" and "least words are fair game.
Think of it as along the lines of how the Patrol Guide is written. Dangerous words on an exam: Must, Only, Should, Could, May, Can, etc. Wording could be everything.
-- Edited by wileone on Friday 11th of November 2011 05:21:04 PM
-- Edited by wileone on Friday 11th of November 2011 05:24:52 PM
oneadditional said
Nov 11, 2011
It did not say most or least correct in this question.
wileone said
Nov 11, 2011
I wasn't too sure. I appreciate it. I want to choose wisely on how I protest these questions and/or answers.
oneadditional said
Nov 11, 2011
It just said which one should he sign and I think the correct thing they should have did was have one throughly filled out and that way we could eliminate the other 3
Mes018 said
Nov 12, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
It just said which one should he sign and I think the correct thing they should have did was have one throughly filled out and that way we could eliminate the other 3
I believe standard proper English would be "...thing they should have done..." not "...should have did..."
throwitout said
Nov 12, 2011
THEY WERE ALL BAD VOUCHERS!!!!!! DONT SIGN ANY BECAUSE NO PSE # ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LOOK IT UP WHO CARES ABOUT WEED,COUNTERFIT MONEY,GUNS CAUSE THEY ARE ALL SH$T JUST LIKE THE EXAM!!
narco no more said
Nov 12, 2011
anybody remember the question number for this in-basket question?
oneadditional said
Nov 13, 2011
TAKE IT EASY MESO18. I'M JUST TYPING FAST TO RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSE SO WE CAN BREAK DOWN THIS EXAM. IF YOU TRIPLED YOUR POSTS YOU STILL WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ME SO GROW UP ROOKIE
OkeeDokee said
Nov 13, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
IF YOU TRIPLED YOUR POSTS YOU STILL WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ME SO GROW UP ROOKIE
Haha.
skiguy37 said
Nov 13, 2011
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-- Edited by skiguy37 on Sunday 13th of November 2011 06:10:15 AM
skiguy37 said
Nov 13, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
TAKE IT EASY MESO18. I'M JUST TYPING FAST TO RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSE SO WE CAN BREAK DOWN THIS EXAM. IF YOU TRIPLED YOUR POSTS YOU STILL WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ME SO GROW UP ROOKIE
There are still grammatical errors in your reply. If you are going to come back at him, at least make it grammatically correct the 2nd time around.
Mes018 said
Nov 14, 2011
oneadditional wrote:
TAKE IT EASY MESO18. I'M JUST TYPING FAST TO RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSE SO WE CAN BREAK DOWN THIS EXAM. IF YOU TRIPLED YOUR POSTS YOU STILL WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ME SO GROW UP ROOKIE
Lol. Wasn't a personal dig at you. Just having a little fun with stupidity of the test. If you took it personally, then I apologize. And for the record, I'm not a rookie. I just don't spend enough time on this forum to have a sh!tload of posts. There is a way too much porn out there for me to be wasting all my free time here.
According to 218-01 #12 Sign invoice verifying accuracy and COMPLETENESS....none of them had 61 numbers and they all needed one.
They were all missing pse#'s.
That makes them all wrong.
Counterfeit money? Should never of even got an invoice, should have gotten 4 49's to the PB, 1 of the 49's as a receipt for the PB keeping the fake bill.
Cell phone with tampered IMEI#? They were correct to invoice it, but incorrect to invoice it as "safekeeping", should have been "investigatory"
The gun? Mostly correct, except the bullet in the chamber should not get itemized ahead of the magazine. Mag should have been item#2 and bullet in chamber as item#3.
The weed was the only good one. The only error I saw was lack of 61#, but they all had that, cop's tax# (in the PG it still says shield#, but the PCI's have captions for tax#, and they all had that) and the "FTP" which by the book, should read "POS"
Don't waste time on protesting something you can't possibly win, move on to the other 50+ questions that were total nonsense...
The marijuana voucher did have a PSE and a Narco Envelope number
the gun also had the wrong description in the article line. It said Glock 19 ser#1234 (don't remember the numbers). It should have said glock pistol ser#1234. That was a recent interim order. Colt revolver, s&w pistol...etc
It wasn't wrong bc of that, If I remember correctly, it didn't have the magazine listed as item #2 like it was suppose to
The weed was no good because untested marijuna does not go in a zip lock bag. order goes
iem1 postive tested in ziplock bag
iem 2 negtive tested zip lock bad (if applicable)
iem 3 any other marijuna placed in the bag(not in a ziplockbag)
all vouchers bad and test was a bull**** test and i hope they throw it out.
-- Edited by NextLtTest on Sunday 6th of November 2011 01:51:40 AM
marijuana is generally contained in ziplock bags, ziplock bag could have merely been the perps, the cop didnt necessarily put the remaining marijuana in a ziplock bag.
Incorrect.
You need to read your bible.
That was an addittional reason that it was wrong but the description on the article line is absolutely important. It is a recent interim order and The Key went over it in great detail....in addition the order of the items was incorrect
a.List the firearm as item # 1 on line 1 of the WORKSHEET and describe by listing the make, firearm type and serial number (e.g.,
Colt revolver serial number 1234, Mossberg shotgun serial number 4567, etc.).
-- Edited by RISING IDIOT on Sunday 6th of November 2011 08:05:17 AM
Well if you didn't pick the weed you got it wrong and I got it right. I don't remember them going into details with ziplock bags or not, but "FTP" is a real world abbreviation, not a PG abreviaition if I remember my bible correctly.
Anyway my point is, weed is the answer. If you didn't pick it, you got it wrong. I am sure there are plenty of other questions worth protesting, this just isn't one of them...
The questions read as 'choose the most/least correct answer'; not thecorrect/incorrect answer. The MOST/LEAST correct answer shows that out of 4 possibilities, although not 100% accurate, may be how the exam writers wanted the test to be written. Example: If the information in choice A is 50% accurate, B is 30%, C is 90% and D is 0%, then choice C is what they wanted. I don't remember the voucher question exactly, but if an answer had 2 mistakes on it, another had 1 mistake, another had 3 mistakes and the last had 2 mistakes on it, then the MOST correct answer would be the voucher with 1 mistake that would be signed off.
That's silly. If an officer's name is absent on a voucher, it's not 27.8% incorrect. It's just incorrect. 1 mistake doesn't confer a certain percentage of incorrectness.
That IS silly. I was just giving an analogy. But like I mentioned, the question reads, what is the least or most correct statement. The test did not ask for an absolute, like what IS the correct or incorrect answer. What i am saying is that the Protest Panel may have need a lot more convicing that what I have been reading as to how people are trying to protest. Those "most" and "least words are fair game.
Think of it as along the lines of how the Patrol Guide is written. Dangerous words on an exam: Must, Only, Should, Could, May, Can, etc. Wording could be everything.
-- Edited by wileone on Friday 11th of November 2011 05:21:04 PM
-- Edited by wileone on Friday 11th of November 2011 05:24:52 PM
I wasn't too sure. I appreciate it. I want to choose wisely on how I protest these questions and/or answers.
THEY WERE ALL BAD VOUCHERS!!!!!! DONT SIGN ANY BECAUSE NO PSE # ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LOOK IT UP WHO CARES ABOUT WEED,COUNTERFIT MONEY,GUNS CAUSE THEY ARE ALL SH$T JUST LIKE THE EXAM!!
TAKE IT EASY MESO18. I'M JUST TYPING FAST TO RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSE SO WE CAN BREAK DOWN THIS EXAM. IF YOU TRIPLED YOUR POSTS YOU STILL WOULDN'T COME CLOSE TO ME SO GROW UP ROOKIE
Haha.
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-- Edited by skiguy37 on Sunday 13th of November 2011 06:10:15 AM
There are still grammatical errors in your reply. If you are going to come back at him, at least make it grammatically correct the 2nd time around.
ON THE INCORRECT SPOT