Does anyone have information on what the City is going to do now that the PBA contract was approved? A top pay cop now makes more than a base pay Sgt......Any info would be appreciated!
irishprincess14 said
Oct 2, 2008
you jump the scale to the next higher pay. I think its 3rd scale.
Puzzle Palace said
Oct 2, 2008
Any word on what the SBA is going to do and when about the pay? If we start at the 3rd step then we'll get to top pay faster which is a good thing.
t-bone said
Oct 3, 2008
can someone please post the sgt pay scale w/o extras .starting pay through top pay and what year does their contract top out[spoiler]
champ939 said
Oct 3, 2008
6/1/04
6/1/05
6/1/06
6/1/07
6/1/08
7/1/08
8/1/09
8/1/10
9/1/10
1st Step
62,926
64,908
67,504
70,205
73,000
75,920
78,957
05 Years Service
66,696
68,678
71,274
73,975
77,230
80,150
83,187
83,787
10 Years Service
67,696
69,678
72,274
74,975
78,230
81,150
84,187
84,787
15 Years Service
68,696
70,678
73,274
75,975
79,230
82,150
85,187
86,787
20 Years Service
69,696
71,678
74,274
76,975
80,230
83,150
86,187
87,787
2nd Step
63,088
65,075
67,678
70,385
73,500
76,440
79,498
05 Years Service
66,858
68,845
71,448
74,155
77,730
80,670
83,728
84,328
10 Years Service
67,858
69,845
72,448
75,155
78,730
81,670
84,728
85,328
15 Years Service
68,858
70,845
73,448
76,155
79,730
82,670
85,728
87,328
20 Years Service
69,858
71,845
74,448
77,155
80,730
83,670
86,728
88,328
3rd Step
63,345
65,340
67,954
70,672
74,000
76,960
80,038
05 Years Service
67,115
69,110
71,724
74,442
78,230
81,190
84,268
84,868
10 Years Service
68,115
70,110
72,724
75,442
79,230
82,190
85,268
85,868
15 Years Service
69,115
71,110
73,724
76,442
80,230
83,190
86,268
87,868
20 Years Service
70,115
72,110
74,724
77,442
81,230
84,190
87,268
88,868
4th Step
64,375
66,403
69,059
71,821
75,190
78,198
81,326
05 Years Service
68,145
70,173
72,829
75,591
79,420
82,428
85,556
86,156
10 Years Service
69,145
71,173
73,829
76,591
80,420
83,428
86,556
87,156
15 Years Service
70,145
72,173
74,829
77,591
81,420
84,428
87,556
89,156
20 Years Service
71,145
73,173
75,829
78,591
82,420
85,428
88,556
90,156
5th Step
78,695
81,174
84,421
87,798
87,798
91,310
94,962
05 Years Service
82,465
84,944
88,191
91,568
92,028
95,540
99,192
99,792
10 Years Service
83,465
85,944
89,191
92,568
93,028
96,540
100,192
100,792
15 Years Service
84,465
86,944
90,191
93,568
94,028
97,540
101,192
102,792
20 Years Service
85,465
87,944
91,191
94,568
95,028
98,540
102,192
103,792
MN50 said
Oct 3, 2008
Correct me if i'm wrong but a top pay cop makes about 76,400 without longevity, so if you look at the scale a sergeant at the 3rd step as of 7/1/08 only makes 74,000 without longevity, obviously still less than a top pay cop. The 5th step is the only step a sgt can make more than a top pay cop. I spoke to a sgt from the sba board last week and he really couldnt give me an answer as to what they are doing with the pay scale or what type of grievance was filed.
Puzzle Palace said
Oct 3, 2008
thanks for the inquiry!
funnymoney said
Oct 4, 2008
people have to remember that cops are not at top pay yet
pay scale for them is about 73500 in this year of contract next year they go to 76000 base pay im waiting to see how they correct the pay scale my self and if i get screwed
MN50 said
Oct 6, 2008
You're saying the ratified contract salary wont go into effect until the beggining of next year, why so long?
BurnEd said
Oct 6, 2008
the fourth year of the ratified PBA contract won't go into effect until 8/01/09. The contract years have started in August every year for atleast the past decade
MN50 said
Oct 6, 2008
That's right, I forgot about that.
wileone said
Oct 6, 2008
What about detectives waiting to get promoted? Will they jump to top pay as Sergeant? Any information? Thank you.
the bucket list said
Oct 6, 2008
ANYONE KNOW WHAT LIST # THEY ARE UP TO IN THIS CLASS?
3AZNCOPS said
Oct 6, 2008
178
JustWonderin said
Oct 7, 2008
I know this is a dumb question but i have no idea how it works.....Is the Sgt payscale the same as a cops payscale in terms of steps ??....When they say steps is that annual ??...how long does it take to hit top pay as a sgt ??? I thought it was 4 yrs....if its 4 yrs why is there 5 steps??
nycop80 said
Oct 7, 2008
It's 5 steps, but you start at step 1, so step 1 plus 4 years = step 5
cat said
Oct 7, 2008
some ppl in bmoc will skip some steps to eqaul out with the new p.o. contract
cubanbatmanking said
Oct 9, 2008
We were told at BMOC by Labor Relations, that they were told that we would start at step 3 and go to top pay in 2 years as opposed to 4 years. He said that he was told by payroll that it would show on the 10/31/08 paycheck. We shall soon find out.
-- Edited by cubanbatmanking at 23:28, 2008-10-09
funnymoney said
Oct 11, 2008
for those who have a year in rank already, i called employee labor relations and i was informed by the lt. that we will stay at the pay scale we are at now and that it was true that new sgts would reach top pay in 2 years only. He also informed me that the sba filed a grievance about the new contract and he has no idea if or how that will affect us sgts with one year in rank, but i know one thing yall new sgts beat the system
waitingfornassau said
Oct 11, 2008
Can anyone else confirm this? I know you were told in bmoc but many people hear different things from the same speaker in those ungodly boring lectures. It all depends on which stage of sleep you are in at the particular time. If true that is f'in sick.
MN50 said
Oct 11, 2008
Like someone else had pointed out to me, cops dont hit top pay until 8/1/09, and i was unable to find the steps for the new contract but i think a cop at the fourth step makes less than a 1st step sgt. I could be wrong so if comeone has that info can they post what a cop makes in the 4th step under the new contract.
tensixone said
Oct 13, 2008
check the last pba newletter. yhe po's contract is in there.
tensixone said
Oct 13, 2008
sorry 4 last typo. should read "the"
MN50 said
Oct 14, 2008
A top pay cop as of 8/1/08 makes 73,546, so recently promoted sgt would have to move up to the 3rd step to make more. Hopefully the grievance filed by the SBA will fix the pay situation for those of us promoted prior to the contract ratification soon.
funnymoney said
Oct 14, 2008
if that number is acurrate, then i make 46 dollars less than a cop with one year in rank as a sgt which means i must jump a step too but when i spoke with the lt he told me we werent we really need to see how this plays out and where is the sba at with adressing this issue, my delegate has no idea of whats going on and i would really like to see where we stand
MN50 said
Oct 14, 2008
Im pretty sure that was it, anyhow, no one seems to know much of anything. I spoke to both the bk north and bk south director and neither one could give me much info, and I had a board director with me at a GO, and he couldnt answer my question, he changed the subject on me.
tensixone said
Oct 15, 2008
the numbers are right!
t-bone said
Oct 17, 2008
CAN ANYONE POST THE PBA PAY SCALE VS SBA PAY SCALE
WOW said
Oct 24, 2008
Anybody hear anything about newly promoted sgts getting bumped up to the 3rd step in the pay scale?
tensixone said
Oct 24, 2008
new sgt @ my cmd said labor relations told them they will get bumped up to step 3
WOW said
Oct 31, 2008
According to my first paycheck at Sgt. pay, I am not at the 3rd step. I'm even a little below what the above chart says is the 1st step (77,230 with longevity) I am at 77,018. Anyone have any clear info on what we are getting paid and if there is going to be a change anytime soon? Thanx.
MN50 said
Oct 31, 2008
Wow, are you looking at your year to date? Your stub wont show what you make annually, your stub would say base pay 2800.00 and whatever the longevity works out to be, I forget, like a little over 100. I'm sure you know by know the city takes forever to fix something when it involves money. I dont understand how that wouldnt affect all of us who have been promoted within the last year, granted I got promoted to sgt prior to the contract ratification, but technically I now make less than a top pay cop
WOW said
Nov 1, 2008
2800.00 X 26 paychecks....164.24 longevity X 26 paychecks adds up to 77,018.
WVB said
Nov 1, 2008
does anyone know for sure what list number they got to on the last 34 for Mon? Anyone know for sure about December for a class or is it still up in the air?
Twenty N Out said
Nov 12, 2008
does anyone have any info about the newly promoted sgts payscale. As of this friday, members of the PBA will be making more money than a newly promoted sgt. I hear the whole 3rd step in pay isn't happening and that the SBA has to grieve for a new payscale and steps. Who knows when this will happen? So what happens if a new class of sgts goes in next month. Are they going to have to take a paycut when they take the promotion?
MN50 said
Nov 12, 2008
I heard the class in is going to the third step. I dont know how it is in other commands, but my delegate told me and the other guys who have been promoted within the last year who make less than a top pay cop to attend the sba meeting on the 25th at antuns, only delegates are allowed to speak, but it would be good to show up at let your union know this is a very important issue. Apparently all Mullins says at these meetings is that he is negotiating with the city and doesnt say anything else about the matter. I would urge all of you guys and gals who are not yet at the third step to attend, I know I will be there, I didnt take on the extra responsibility to make less than a cop, a problem that needs to be corrected now.
ShakeBox said
Nov 12, 2008
The recently promoted and soon to be promoted will be stepped up to the appropriate pay rate, currently the 3rd step. The information has been vague for very good reason. Those who are yet to be promoted will learn this soon enough. The union is fairly quiet because it is in the best interest of all those concerned and it will benefit them in the long run. So don't jump all over the delegates - everyone is going to be adjusted.
Any anyone who says they only allow delegates to speak at the meetings hasn't been to an SBA meeting in the last 6 years or so.
MN50 said
Nov 13, 2008
I've never been to one, would be my first. And the only reason I said that only delegates are allowed to speak was because that is what the delegate wrote in his memo to us. And I wouldnt consider asking a delegate a question about an important issue jumping all over them, that's what they are there for.
BurnEd said
Nov 14, 2008
Remember WOW 26 paychecks times 14 days per paycheck equals 364 days. There are 365 days in a year plus an extra day every 4 years for leap year. So every 12 years or so you will get 27 paychecks. $77,230 - $77,018= 212 dollars or roughly one days pay ($212 X 365 days = 77,380 + I have no life)
If we start at the 3rd step then we'll get to top pay faster which is a good thing.
-- Edited by cubanbatmanking at 23:28, 2008-10-09
Like someone else had pointed out to me, cops dont hit top pay until 8/1/09, and i was unable to find the steps for the new contract but i think a cop at the fourth step makes less than a 1st step sgt. I could be wrong so if comeone has that info can they post what a cop makes in the 4th step under the new contract.
Any anyone who says they only allow delegates to speak at the meetings hasn't been to an SBA meeting in the last 6 years or so.