I already crossed that questio. Off even before i came on this forum...i couldnt for the life of me remember
TenFour16 said
Mar 1, 2017
900 people didnt pass this test. Foh. I believe the 7% rumor. I also believe the 7% was mixed with 700. I dont think it was 700, its 7% of the peole who took the exam. Im hearing the real number is 500-700.
Thebirds said
Mar 1, 2017
TenFour16 wrote:
900 people didnt pass this test. Foh. I believe the 7% rumor. I also believe the 7% was mixed with 700. I dont think it was 700, its 7% of the peole who took the exam. Im hearing the real number is 500-700.
I agree. There should be another test real soon, at least
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
Yea that sounds abou right
TenFour16 said
Mar 1, 2017
Guys, we have to form a fight to fight these questions. Lets start making annofficial list right here on the forum. But lets all be honest with ourselves. There are too many people coming on here trying to change questions just because they got them wrong. Accept what you got wrong and get over it. Lets form a reasonable fight. I know there are about 4-5 questions that can be thrown out or have double answers.
We also need to figure out if there was indeed 2 very slight variations if the exam. Based on what some close friends have told me (and I have great memory) we discussed some very slight differences in some in basket questions, including the numbers on questions being different.
If people with a different exam are getting points while some people arent because there exam is different. Prepare for a fight. That is unfair. And DCAS will have to work something out. They would have to add points to whatever was a throwout, whether you answered it right or not the first time. It would have to be a curve.
Thebirds said
Mar 1, 2017
Can we please move past the different exams thing? There is no ****ing way DCAS made 2 tests.
TenFour16 said
Mar 1, 2017
I want to believe the same thing. Believe me I do. I know we all wanna be logical, but its not us ... its DCAS. You cant put anything past them. I dont even have that much time on and based on others experiences with prior exams we should know DCAS is capable of doing dumb ****. I just wouldnt out it past them .... and also. With the last Sgts exam, I dont ever remember people mentioning possible different exams.
Thebirds said
Mar 1, 2017
There's no question that DCAS is incompetent, I mean just look at how late some of the testing sites started the exam for the most recent example. It is because of that incompetence that they would never attempt something as complex as issuing different exams and entrusting the imbecile proctors to match them up correctly. It would be a disaster.
TenFour16 said
Mar 1, 2017
Valid point. We shall see ....
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
I agree we need to start thinking and forming the questions that we are going to protest now so that by the time we are to go to the protest session we will be ready to fight. I think we should all vote on the questions that we all feel will get thrown out as well as we feel have been worded incorrectly we need to get this going soon because before you know it we're going to be getting close for the protest session. This could possibly help a lot of people including us pick up extra points not only passing but moving up on that eligible list.
-- Edited by prayingforapass70 on Wednesday 1st of March 2017 09:38:37 PM
Finest7578 said
Mar 1, 2017
The only problem is we're only remembering a few questions .. didn't someone say here they remebeeed a lot of them.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
yes there are questions that some have posted on here in the forums.....I can tell you I believe some had a problem with the prisoner vist question, number of cops to send on a transport, the scaffolding question, I think the family offense(not sure if ppl wanna protest this), and that's all I can remember for now
UrinalFly said
Mar 1, 2017
Dont forget the PAR question.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
what was the PAR question again??
Stopand250 said
Mar 1, 2017
Lets start with questions
Fully automatic weapon...they never lock us into the procedure.
Transport....In Basket question
Hospital Visit...
Add to the questions you think was unfair
Stopand250 said
Mar 1, 2017
prayingforapass70 wrote:
what was the PAR question again??
Was it the RMP accident with seriously injured?
PS does the quadruple PAR
Rick from accounting said
Mar 1, 2017
Full automatic weapon? Is verbatim from PG that's a waste to try and argue. Hospital visit you can't argue bc they said city worker 6 times and on the reports it said city of New York MTA. Transport you won't win either bc it says in the Inbasket no chains and the C.O gives you specific directions what to do and you as a "sgt" gotta follow PG procedure. Sorry for playing devil's advocate I Got these wrong too but idk if we can fight those.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
hmm I think that's the PAR question yes......the scaffolding one would be definitely worth arguing.....ive also heard a lot of chatter about the marijuana question about waiting for the id or putting the lady through
NauseousPBBN said
Mar 1, 2017
With the exception of the question that only says "the most". I cant see any other question mentioned so far that was tricky or has double answers.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
ooooo yes the question that didn't state whether they wanted a correct or incorrect answer we DEFINATELY need to protest.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
I really think the scaffolding question can be worth a little something.....it says in the procedure DOB can be contacted THROUGH OEM .....I mean maybe I'm the only one but hey ill still try to fight it.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
as for the other ones.....I think it might be worth a shot as well we wont know until we at least TRY
bigfoot45 said
Mar 1, 2017
There is no way there was two different exams. Spend your time trying to find a few questions that can be protested. Sometimes there isn't any. My 2011 SGT exam had one throw out and 2 double answers. My 2015 LT exam had 0 changes...until a settlement was reached to throw out 5 questions that weren't referenced to in the original NOE. The NOE issue has since been resolved for all future tests.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
WHats NOE?
Thebirds said
Mar 1, 2017
bigfoot45 wrote:
There is no way there was two different exams. Spend your time trying to find a few questions that can be protested. Sometimes there isn't any. My 2011 SGT exam had one throw out and 2 double answers. My 2015 LT exam had 0 changes...until a settlement was reached to throw out 5 questions that weren't referenced to in the original NOE. The NOE issue has since been resolved for all future tests.
Yeah, they just say "we can test everything go **** yourself." Typical lazy DCAS response.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
o wait I know wa it means now disregard
UrinalFly said
Mar 1, 2017
prayingforapass70 wrote:
what was the PAR question again??
The DARP question, I meant.
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
Caralho said
Mar 1, 2017
Ok so now what's the rumor going around on how many people passed? Is this a creditable source or some retard going around who didn't take the exam starting ****....
TransitJoe said
Mar 1, 2017
I personally don't believe that anyone would know anything about a number of people who passed yet. I know it only takes a second to scan a scantron but I don't think anyone would actually have that information yet. Just a personal opinion. I wouldn't stress the rumors yet
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
true......lets take it one step at a time and gather up the questions everyone agrees we should protest....as info comes in from all angles we have to always try to remember this.....rumors are going to be swirling around this test as it does with EVERY test. Until its Confirmed lets just try to focus on one thing in order for us to accomplish our goal
UrinalFly said
Mar 1, 2017
prayingforapass70 wrote:
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
100questions said
Mar 1, 2017
prayingforapass70 wrote:
hmm I think that's the PAR question yes......the scaffolding one would be definitely worth arguing.....ive also heard a lot of chatter about the marijuana question about waiting for the id or putting the lady through
Are you kidding? The job has been forcing it down our throats that you must allow a reasonable amount of time to retrieve proper identification before preparing an OLBS to put someone through for PL 221.10. If you can't remember basic information like that, I think the protest session is the last thing you have to worry about.
Caralho said
Mar 1, 2017
100 questions -- where in the patrol guide did you see that??
100questions said
Mar 1, 2017
See STEP 12 in the attached document.
-- Edited by 100questions on Wednesday 1st of March 2017 11:36:07 PM
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
but said only one needed to be towed the other was able to be driven away or start up or something along those lines
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
100questions wrote:
prayingforapass70 wrote:
hmm I think that's the PAR question yes......the scaffolding one would be definitely worth arguing.....ive also heard a lot of chatter about the marijuana question about waiting for the id or putting the lady through
Are you kidding? The job has been forcing it down our throats that you must allow a reasonable amount of time to retrieve proper identification before preparing an OLBS to put someone through for PL 221.10. If you can't remember basic information like that, I think the protest session is the last thing you have to worry about.
that is EXACTLY what ive been trying to tell a few guys at my command but they keep saying no that's not in the PG and all this other stuff....I chose to give time and it actually states it in 209 to give a reasonable amount of time HOWEVER I have a feeling ppl will try to protest that
prayingforapass70 said
Mar 1, 2017
100questions wrote:
See STEP 12 in the attached document.
-- Edited by 100questions on Wednesday 1st of March 2017 11:36:07 PM
yup that's the one 209-something step 12.....I chose that answer based on everything that was going on now with the marijuana stuff
TransitJoe said
Mar 1, 2017
The one that needed to be towed, even though it was a 16 vehicle, didn't the question state specifically it was darped? That would make it the 99T5
100questions said
Mar 1, 2017
TransitJoe wrote:
The one that needed to be towed, even though it was a 16 vehicle, didn't the question state specifically it was darped? That would make it the 99T5
No it didn't state that. If it stated it was DARP'd, the answer would be obvious. It stated the vehicle came back a code 10-16. It was up to you to realize that 10-16 means stolen. And stolen vehicles are NEVER to be DARP'ed. In that instance, it would require Department Tow. You need to deduce the radio code for a Department Towed vehicle.
Caralho said
Mar 1, 2017
So is your 70 a reality yet ?
ecfpetey said
Mar 2, 2017
Thebirds wrote:
Yes, the answer was use their phone information to attempt to contact them
This is a umos duty...not a D/O or p/s duty. One of the missing questions ask the duty of the p/s which was to coordinate the search with operations and communications. The other was the d/o duty and the correct answer was notify the co/duty captain of the missing resident pct.
UrinalFly said
Mar 2, 2017
JPAL91091 wrote:
UrinalFly wrote:
prayingforapass70 wrote:
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
but said only one needed to be towed the other was able to be driven away or start up or something along those lines
The driver said he could drive it, but then when the cops looked at the vehicle, they saw the "wheel was broken off the axle of the other car" ( I had to dissect that sentence on test day - read that thing 12 times) The other car was, of course, 16 so I went with T7, but in the back of my head I knew I was going to protest this question.
ecfpetey said
Mar 2, 2017
UrinalFly wrote:
JPAL91091 wrote:
UrinalFly wrote:
prayingforapass70 wrote:
oooooo DARP one.....well the consensus was 99t6.....I just thought about wa we use on patrol for a 53
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
but said only one needed to be towed the other was able to be driven away or start up or something along those lines
The driver said he could drive it, but then when the cops looked at the vehicle, they saw the "wheel was broken off the axle of the other car" ( I had to dissect that sentence on test day - read that thing 12 times) The other car was, of course, 16 so I went with T7, but in the back of my head I knew I was going to protest this question.
To the best of my memory as i read this question over many times too , I read the stolen car was the one with the wheel broken off the axle and the other was able to be driven off fine by the driver. 99t6
-- Edited by ecfpetey on Thursday 2nd of March 2017 12:42:55 AM
I agree. There should be another test real soon, at least
We also need to figure out if there was indeed 2 very slight variations if the exam. Based on what some close friends have told me (and I have great memory) we discussed some very slight differences in some in basket questions, including the numbers on questions being different.
If people with a different exam are getting points while some people arent because there exam is different. Prepare for a fight. That is unfair. And DCAS will have to work something out. They would have to add points to whatever was a throwout, whether you answered it right or not the first time. It would have to be a curve.
I agree we need to start thinking and forming the questions that we are going to protest now so that by the time we are to go to the protest session we will be ready to fight. I think we should all vote on the questions that we all feel will get thrown out as well as we feel have been worded incorrectly we need to get this going soon because before you know it we're going to be getting close for the protest session. This could possibly help a lot of people including us pick up extra points not only passing but moving up on that eligible list.
-- Edited by prayingforapass70 on Wednesday 1st of March 2017 09:38:37 PM
Fully automatic weapon...they never lock us into the procedure.
Transport....In Basket question
Hospital Visit...
Add to the questions you think was unfair
Was it the RMP accident with seriously injured?
PS does the quadruple PAR
as for the other ones.....I think it might be worth a shot as well we wont know until we at least TRY
There is no way there was two different exams. Spend your time trying to find a few questions that can be protested. Sometimes there isn't any. My 2011 SGT exam had one throw out and 2 double answers. My 2015 LT exam had 0 changes...until a settlement was reached to throw out 5 questions that weren't referenced to in the original NOE. The NOE issue has since been resolved for all future tests.
Yeah, they just say "we can test everything go **** yourself." Typical lazy DCAS response.
The DARP question, I meant.
I actually believe it was T7 and that the sentence describing the damage to both vehicles was VERY poorly worded.
Are you kidding? The job has been forcing it down our throats that you must allow a reasonable amount of time to retrieve proper identification before preparing an OLBS to put someone through for PL 221.10. If you can't remember basic information like that, I think the protest session is the last thing you have to worry about.
See STEP 12 in the attached document.
-- Edited by 100questions on Wednesday 1st of March 2017 11:36:07 PM
What section ??
209-38 Enforcement of CPM 5° (1)
but said only one needed to be towed the other was able to be driven away or start up or something along those lines
that is EXACTLY what ive been trying to tell a few guys at my command but they keep saying no that's not in the PG and all this other stuff....I chose to give time and it actually states it in 209 to give a reasonable amount of time HOWEVER I have a feeling ppl will try to protest that
yup that's the one 209-something step 12.....I chose that answer based on everything that was going on now with the marijuana stuff
No it didn't state that. If it stated it was DARP'd, the answer would be obvious. It stated the vehicle came back a code 10-16. It was up to you to realize that 10-16 means stolen. And stolen vehicles are NEVER to be DARP'ed. In that instance, it would require Department Tow. You need to deduce the radio code for a Department Towed vehicle.
So is your 70 a reality yet ?
This is a umos duty...not a D/O or p/s duty. One of the missing questions ask the duty of the p/s which was to coordinate the search with operations and communications. The other was the d/o duty and the correct answer was notify the co/duty captain of the missing resident pct.
The driver said he could drive it, but then when the cops looked at the vehicle, they saw the "wheel was broken off the axle of the other car" ( I had to dissect that sentence on test day - read that thing 12 times) The other car was, of course, 16 so I went with T7, but in the back of my head I knew I was going to protest this question.
To the best of my memory as i read this question over many times too , I read the stolen car was the one with the wheel broken off the axle and the other was able to be driven off fine by the driver. 99t6
-- Edited by ecfpetey on Thursday 2nd of March 2017 12:42:55 AM