A post test service for all of you. - UPDATED 10/30 @ 1710 hrs
JudgeDredd said
Oct 23, 2013
With the latest update I have a
Best 100
Most likely 75
Worst 66
Bottom two actually went up one from before but before I had 29 possible wrong answers and now I have 32. Must have done something wrong before.
jaribu said
Oct 23, 2013
I asked the people from the key for their thoughts and this is his replay. DCAS is ridiculous. It was completely unfair. I don't know if it's protestable but it is completely ridiculous.
carol said
Oct 23, 2013
can anyone advise me how to get rid of #REF that shows up when I plug in the numbers for my most likely . I'm using excel 2007 , I unprotected the sheet and pasted the numbers in as values ... Still not working out for me. ? any suggestions?
scotty2 said
Oct 23, 2013
what the hell do I make of this?
-- Edited by scotty2 on Thursday 24th of October 2013 01:07:26 AM
i think its because your using an older version. at least you got the top and bottom number and can sorta guess.
Gamblor said
Oct 23, 2013
mar2013 wrote:
Best Possible: 100
Most Likely: ??
Worst Possible: 88
Everytime I input my answer I never get a most likely score, what am I doing wrong? According to this, I'm at 118 out of 130 so I'm feeling pretty good about my chances of passing.
Excel 2003 does that sometimes. You can send me your answers and I'll plug them in for you, but I can say that with a worst possible of 88, you have the highest score I've seen so far.
Gamblor said
Oct 23, 2013
carol wrote:
can anyone advise me how to get rid of #REF that shows up when I plug in the numbers for my most likely . I'm using excel 2007 , I unprotected the sheet and pasted the numbers in as values ... Still not working out for me. ? any suggestions?
A few people have that issue, you can send me your answers and I'll plug them in for you.
nice work. question. according to most recent i have 29 different answers. My question is how does it show a low of 67. Even if all of the 30 survey questions were not included in my wrong I would think the low is 71. Sorry if this has been answered before, if it has please let me know and I will go back and look. Thanks.
Wingnut said
Oct 24, 2013
dmusicman385 wrote:
nice work. question. according to most recent i have 29 different answers. My question is how does it show a low of 67. Even if all of the 30 survey questions were not included in my wrong I would think the low is 71. Sorry if this has been answered before, if it has please let me know and I will go back and look. Thanks.
You have to take into consideration that all of the top answers are not slam dunks. There are still a few low confidence answers (meaning theres multiple answers getting a lot of votes) as well as several double answers.
Gamblor said
Oct 24, 2013
dmusicman385 wrote:
nice work. question. according to most recent i have 29 different answers. My question is how does it show a low of 67. Even if all of the 30 survey questions were not included in my wrong I would think the low is 71. Sorry if this has been answered before, if it has please let me know and I will go back and look. Thanks.
The low, and high, also take into account some of the questions that are too close to reliably call (doubles), so it will skew the score a little.
dmusicman385 said
Oct 24, 2013
Oh ok thanks a lot for the explanations.
kevin20872 said
Oct 24, 2013
can so one that knows tell me if the doble answer get thrown out..
mar2013 said
Oct 24, 2013
Gamblor wrote:
mar2013 wrote:
Best Possible: 100
Most Likely: ??
Worst Possible: 88
Everytime I input my answer I never get a most likely score, what am I doing wrong? According to this, I'm at 118 out of 130 so I'm feeling pretty good about my chances of passing.
Excel 2003 does that sometimes. You can send me your answers and I'll plug them in for you, but I can say that with a worst possible of 88, you have the highest score I've seen so far.
These are the numbers I'm getting but cant seem to get a value for "Most Likely". When you can, would you be able to PM me the number you get? I sent my answer to you earlier. Thanks
-- Edited by scotty2 on Wednesday 23rd of October 2013 11:03:32 PM
Pm your numbers , There's something wrong with the excel versions we are using to calculate our scores.
Finest17 said
Oct 24, 2013
Anyone having problems with the Microsoft excel not showing the "most likely" answer can download cloudon from the apple App Store for free and it lets you use excel on iPhone/ipad
scotty2 said
Oct 24, 2013
Finest17 wrote:
Anyone having problems with the Microsoft excel not showing the "most likely" answer can download cloudon from the apple App Store for free and it lets you use excel on iPhone/ipad
Thanks for that. My most likely is 71.................ohhhh boy, couple months of anxiety ahead
2boots said
Oct 24, 2013
For some reason I don't feel confident with that...
AK1128 said
Oct 24, 2013
I dont have access to excel, can anyone advice how I can plug my answers into that sheet?? Thnx!
33fornow said
Oct 24, 2013
2boots wrote:
For some reason I don't feel confident with that...
Dude cheer up you seem to be in better shape then me by a few points, and I feel okay!
Caballo Loco said
Oct 24, 2013
Best possible :100
Most likely : 85
Worst possible :80
I really hope my final numbers are close to these.
-- Edited by Caballo Loco on Thursday 24th of October 2013 04:34:23 PM
cop said
Oct 24, 2013
Gamblor I just want to say thankyou on behalf all that study its a little frustrating and I think the key go helpful but I have a question I have a high of 91 likely 70 worst 61 should I be ok thanks for everything
Noll0317 said
Oct 25, 2013
any more keys been added to this looking to do input my answers again
Gamblor said
Oct 25, 2013
Hey, I know I have some messages pending from a few of you. I probably won't get to them for a day or two as I am running around trying to get everything together in preparation for my promotion tomorrow. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I haven't forgotten or left. I'll be around in a day or so. Thanks.
vlad1025 said
Oct 25, 2013
How accurate could this answer key really be? Take into consideration who sent gambler the answer keys, were those who sent them 100% confident they scored high? I just am hearing everyone talking about this key and a lot of people have numerous different answers when comparing to each others sheets. I do hope this is the most accurate way this can be done, but also hope not many end up dissapointed. Take everything with a grain of salt and keep your heads up. In a few weeks our fates will be decided.
Ps: thank u again to the good sgt who put the program together for us, just hope it's pretty spot on for those who may have passed
Arrow said
Oct 25, 2013
Gamblor wrote:
Hey, I know I have some messages pending from a few of you. I probably won't get to them for a day or two as I am running around trying to get everything together in preparation for my promotion tomorrow. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I haven't forgotten or left. I'll be around in a day or so. Thanks.
Congrats
carol said
Oct 25, 2013
Gamblor wrote:
Hey, I know I have some messages pending from a few of you. I probably won't get to them for a day or two as I am running around trying to get everything together in preparation for my promotion tomorrow. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I haven't forgotten or left. I'll be around in a day or so. Thanks.
congratulations
Romeo23g said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats to our Newest Lieutenant..
ManHands said
Oct 25, 2013
Good luck and congratulations on your promotion Gamblor. You don't need to excuse yourself, your doing us an amazing service. Thank you.
33fornow said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats on your promotion. Best of luck to you!
kaki1723 said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats Gamblor and thank you!!
Jdawg said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats gamblor, we need more bosses like you on this job, ones who will bend over backwards to help those in need even when it does not benefit them in any way shape or form. Kudos brother!
Zmann said
Oct 25, 2013
Gamblor wrote:
Hey, I know I have some messages pending from a few of you. I probably won't get to them for a day or two as I am running around trying to get everything together in preparation for my promotion tomorrow. I just wanted to check in and let you know that I haven't forgotten or left. I'll be around in a day or so. Thanks.
Congrats! And best of luck! Hope you end up in a good command!
NostradamusOfDominoes said
Oct 25, 2013
Congratulations on your promotion and thank you for time and effort!
cop said
Oct 25, 2013
We should all pack 1PP to wish gamblor a well deserved promotion and as a thankyou for the key and clarity of the test again good luck to all hope I passed and congrats to the gamblor
carman728 said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats on your promotion! It's good to know there are good bosses out there. Hopefully your captain's exam won't have 30 research questions on it!
dmusicman385 said
Oct 25, 2013
Congrats Gamblor! best of luck wherever you end up.
MJV231 said
Oct 26, 2013
I dont understand why such a big deal about electronic devices we can't freaking cheat the test is over. its a crap shoot because i don't have a printed guide.. i just have it on my iPad. so basically i can't protect anything which sucks...
-- Edited by MJV231 on Saturday 26th of October 2013 01:38:45 PM
JDMEVO9 said
Oct 26, 2013
ohnoes wrote:
Romeo23g wrote:
I AGREE with you 130% (pun intended)... This will be a curved test. Ask yourself this.... Why did they not allow the instructors take the test? Why did they throw in an extra 33% without allotting extra time? Why is DCAS NOT going to post the answer key on their website? Why were these "experimental" questions about PG procedures and not surveys? Why we're these questions thrown in randomly on these test? There are a lot questions not answered by DCAS that leads one to believe that this will be a curved test.
I'm failing to see how that equals a curved test.
I posted on another thread. The practice of sample or experimental questions is used on most standardized exams (SAT, ACT, GRE, LSAT, NY BAR). A "curve" is based off a bell curve where a certain percentage of test takers are meant to pass. DCAS does not care how many people pass. You have a Sgt. list with less then 300 on it, a few tests later a list with less then 800, then a 1600 list. Then a Lt. list that only gets to the test takers that got an 81% or above. Then a list where less than 700 people are on it and people are getting promoted with a 70%. All DCAS is concerned with is fairness. And by fairness I mean you are not comparing yourself against other lists or other tests, was this test equally difficult given - difficulty of questions, and time allotted to answer those questions - to everyone taking THIS test. That answer is yes. If some people took the test with the sample questions and got no more time, (while others took a standard 100 question test) that would be unfair to them. But everyone took the same test, and was allotted the same time, which makes it fair, and beyond reproach.
I couldn't agree with you any more OHNOES! And to all other who are claiming unfairness...
its very clear that it was fairly given. (No one got extra time. we were all equally caught off guard) This wasn't a test were anyone will say YOU HAD A LUCKY SATURDAY. It's not happening. i studied for almost a year and busted my ass 20+ hrs a week and then 4 weeks vacation up until the test. I felt walking in that I would score a 105 on it. According to the excel I did pretty good but I busted my ass and ended up rushing...... 3hrs remained and 114questions to do.
I rushed like crazy and thought I wouldn't make it. If it wasn't for my study habits I wouldn't have finished because every answer jumped out at me and I had NO TIME to debate answers I thought were 50/50. You either knew it Instantly or didn't. Zero time for thinking and working out an answer. It was horrible when I know I could score in the 90's but instead prob settling for a high 70's to high 80's range. What seems more unfair is a makeup exam with everyone discussing the questions everywhere you go and all... and those people being 100% prepared for time management and basic rundown..(I don't know anyone in particular but people overhear convo's) Hopefully we all passed And can focus on the next future exam and be aware!
DCAS throws experimental questions to all other agencies In the same exact manner. They are NOT stupid and they Know EXACTLY what they are doing. We just have no answers which is why it sounds like a bunch of crying. No lucky Saturdays for anyone on this round Who didn't EARN IT. It is what it is
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Saturday 26th of October 2013 10:44:09 PM
MikePD said
Oct 26, 2013
Hey guys having a real hard time with trying to figure out my scores. Tried opening it on a mac and only got a best and worst which came out to a best of 93 and a worst of 63. I then opened it on my ipad with "cloudon" and received a best of 93 and worst of 59 with a most likely of 69. Which numbers are more accurate and how are they different?? was wondering if maybe someone could offer a hand! thanks again guys and good luck to all!
Wingnut said
Oct 26, 2013
MikePD wrote:
Hey guys having a real hard time with trying to figure out my scores. Tried opening it on a mac and only got a best and worst which came out to a best of 93 and a worst of 63. I then opened it on my ipad with "cloudon" and received a best of 93 and worst of 59 with a most likely of 69. Which numbers are more accurate and how are they different?? was wondering if maybe someone could offer a hand! thanks again guys and good luck to all!
Mike,
My Numbers app wasn't calculating my scores either. Luckily, I also have Excel for mac so I used that instead. If nothing else, throw the file on a thumb drive and do it at work.
MikePD said
Oct 26, 2013
Thanks Wing, driving me nuts looking at 2 different sets of numbers on 2 different programs!
Wingnut said
Oct 26, 2013
MikePD wrote:
Thanks Wing, driving me nuts looking at 2 different sets of numbers on 2 different programs!
My numbers app was WAY off in the calculations. It had me best possible 100, worst possible 69, most likely 50. Even Gamblor had no idea what the problem was.
I was able to unpucker my bum after the excel had me at best 100, worst 74, most likely 81!
MikePD said
Oct 26, 2013
That's awesome! I would almost rather my scores I got in numbers it had me at a best possible of 93 and a worst of 63, I then used "cloudon" app on the ipad (I dont know how accurate this app is) but it gave me a best of a 93, most likey of a 69, and worst of 59
Wingnut said
Oct 26, 2013
MikePD wrote:
That's awesome! I would almost rather my scores I got in numbers it had me at a best possible of 93 and a worst of 63, I then used "cloudon" app on the ipad (I dont know how accurate this app is) but it gave me a best of a 93, most likey of a 69, and worst of 59
The difference is in the less than high confidence and double answers aren't being calculated correctly in those apps.
MikePD said
Oct 26, 2013
This is going to be a long few weeks for me having to wonder!
Wingnut said
Oct 26, 2013
Definitely is. Things have slowed down on this site a lot in the last day or two. I think the people screaming for appeals, lawsuits, etc have come down off their pitchfork mob high and are starting to realize that nothing is going to happen. I sent in my slip to attend the protest so I'll try to post the proposed answer key on ASAP but I'm pretty sure there are no electronic devices allowed.
Best 100
Most likely 75
Worst 66
Bottom two actually went up one from before but before I had 29 possible wrong answers and now I have 32. Must have done something wrong before.
what the hell do I make of this?
-- Edited by scotty2 on Thursday 24th of October 2013 01:07:26 AM
i think its because your using an older version. at least you got the top and bottom number and can sorta guess.
Excel 2003 does that sometimes. You can send me your answers and I'll plug them in for you, but I can say that with a worst possible of 88, you have the highest score I've seen so far.
A few people have that issue, you can send me your answers and I'll plug them in for you.
I say you are beyond OK lol good job!
NICE JOB 2 BOOTS !
You have to take into consideration that all of the top answers are not slam dunks. There are still a few low confidence answers (meaning theres multiple answers getting a lot of votes) as well as several double answers.
The low, and high, also take into account some of the questions that are too close to reliably call (doubles), so it will skew the score a little.
These are the numbers I'm getting but cant seem to get a value for "Most Likely". When you can, would you be able to PM me the number you get? I sent my answer to you earlier. Thanks
Pm your numbers , There's something wrong with the excel versions we are using to calculate our scores.
Thanks for that. My most likely is 71.................ohhhh boy, couple months of anxiety ahead
I dont have access to excel, can anyone advice how I can plug my answers into that sheet?? Thnx!
Dude cheer up you seem to be in better shape then me by a few points, and I feel okay!
Best possible :100
Most likely : 85
Worst possible :80
I really hope my final numbers are close to these.
-- Edited by Caballo Loco on Thursday 24th of October 2013 04:34:23 PM
Gamblor I just want to say thankyou on behalf all that study its a little frustrating and I think the key go helpful but I have a question I have a high of 91 likely 70 worst 61 should I be ok thanks for everything
Ps: thank u again to the good sgt who put the program together for us, just hope it's pretty spot on for those who may have passed
Congrats
congratulations
Congrats! And best of luck! Hope you end up in a good command!
Congratulations on your promotion and thank you for time and effort!
Congrats on your promotion! It's good to know there are good bosses out there. Hopefully your captain's exam won't have 30 research questions on it!
I dont understand why such a big deal about electronic devices we can't freaking cheat the test is over. its a crap shoot because i don't have a printed guide.. i just have it on my iPad. so basically i can't protect anything which sucks...
-- Edited by MJV231 on Saturday 26th of October 2013 01:38:45 PM
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Saturday 26th of October 2013 10:44:09 PM
Hey guys having a real hard time with trying to figure out my scores. Tried opening it on a mac and only got a best and worst which came out to a best of 93 and a worst of 63. I then opened it on my ipad with "cloudon" and received a best of 93 and worst of 59 with a most likely of 69. Which numbers are more accurate and how are they different?? was wondering if maybe someone could offer a hand! thanks again guys and good luck to all!
Mike,
My Numbers app wasn't calculating my scores either. Luckily, I also have Excel for mac so I used that instead. If nothing else, throw the file on a thumb drive and do it at work.
Thanks Wing, driving me nuts looking at 2 different sets of numbers on 2 different programs!
My numbers app was WAY off in the calculations. It had me best possible 100, worst possible 69, most likely 50. Even Gamblor had no idea what the problem was.
I was able to unpucker my bum after the excel had me at best 100, worst 74, most likely 81!
That's awesome! I would almost rather my scores I got in numbers it had me at a best possible of 93 and a worst of 63, I then used "cloudon" app on the ipad (I dont know how accurate this app is) but it gave me a best of a 93, most likey of a 69, and worst of 59
The difference is in the less than high confidence and double answers aren't being calculated correctly in those apps.
This is going to be a long few weeks for me having to wonder!