Shame on the SBA, corrupt to the core, vote these clowns out
WartimeConsigliere said
May 7th
Pretty sure I read/heard that all new promotees start at step 4 and stay there for 5 years. Can kicked down the road until PBA settles and compression issue becomes a thing again. Godspeed
Peewee said
May 7th
NauseousPBBN wrote:
I could be wrong. I thought it went based off of base pay.
For the purpose of placing into a pay scale it goes off of base pay and service differential. Which is why Dets with 5 years in rank were able to go to top pay when they added a step.
VetteCop said
May 7th
newly promoted sgt's will go to step 4 and stay there till top pay.
NauseousPBBN said
May 7th
Are they counting longevity too? Service differential isn't enough alone to go to step 4
Asmfish said
May 7th
I think thats after the next PBA raise
NYTIMES said
May 8th
PO top pay is $109,352 plus $2,460 (Neighborhood Policing Diff) for a total of $111,812.
Sgt pay step 3 is $110,175 - therefore Sgts go to step 4, which is $115,016.
That is my understanding.
Thecolikesmen said
May 8th
Why even create a step program were top pay PO makes more money than a Sgt at steps 1-3. Mind you PBA is not even in contract.
Xchris176 said
May 8th
NYTIMES wrote:
PO top pay is $109,352 plus $2,460 (Neighborhood Policing Diff) for a total of $111,812. Sgt pay step 3 is $110,175 - therefore Sgts go to step 4, which is $115,016.
I looked back at old emails. PBA contract ratified by 4/24/23, the Union emailed their members on 4/27/23 with a contract update including the expected pay dates. Vinny can you find out the dates for us or should we call Kaz?
3testwonder said
May 9th
Its been 5 days since ratification. Why are there no updates on payouts.
VetteCop said
May 9th
Because it's the Sba
NYM said
May 9th
Lmao!! If you are upset about the contract already, wait until you see how small your retro is when you finally get it, your going to be even more upset then.
LGB2024 said
May 12th
Still no pay dates from our lovely union. It was a historic contract with zero follow up emails.
WartimeConsigliere said
May 12th
Still celebrating their pension bump. Stand by for your cost of living adjustment, I mean raise.
PoDoNothing said
May 13th
What are the odds well get our raise before that golf outing.
Nyc507 said
May 13th
I heard pay raise 5/23. First check with raise is 6/6.
Again rumors , no clue if thats accurate.
NauseousPBBN said
May 13th
OPA gets up to 90 days, and you are given time to make changes to 457 contributions.
Last contract was approved on 1/19 and raises took effect on 3/4 check.
-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Tuesday 13th of May 2025 12:29:54 AM
Nyc507 said
May 13th
NauseousPBBN wrote:
OPA gets up to 90 days, and you are given time to make changes to 457 contributions.
Last contract was approved on 1/19 and raises took effect on 3/4 check.
-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Tuesday 13th of May 2025 12:29:54 AM
Good to know. Sgt class went in on 2/7. Did that group fall under old or new contract ? Since technically the raise was in affect after 2/7?
NauseousPBBN said
May 13th
New contract
A10shun said
May 14th
People are saying raise should be on next check
WartimeConsigliere said
May 14th
This union really cant be bothered, shoot. Week and a half now. PBA knew their dates within three days.
GangGreenMets said
May 14th
This is just a reminder to not vote for Vinny or anybody associated with his administration when the election comes. Their incompetence is on full display.
-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Wednesday 14th of May 2025 01:39:49 PM
DeptIsaJoke said
May 14th
You truly are a moron if you vote for vinny.
Jets5646 said
May 14th
But who is running against them?
Futureauxiliary said
May 14th
Jets5646 wrote:
But who is running against them?
The precinct greeter has a better chance at winning the SBA election.
Asmfish said
May 14th
like WhatsApp chats or anybody with actual information
UncleC69 said
May 15th
Theres a few people that are planning a challenge. The reasons are layered.
Truthfully, the vote needs to get passed the delegate body. If that occurs, this unelected board is done. The problem is the delegates and directors.
Ten of them need to step up.
June of 2026
LGB2024 said
May 15th
Guys, you honestly have to respect Vinnys trolling game at this point. Theres still more golf outing tickets left.
Leftbehind802 said
May 15th
If Vinny gave us an idea of when the raise is kicking in and date on retro, maybe we could consider the golf outing.
3testwonder said
May 16th
Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?
Asmfish said
May 17th
3testwonder wrote:
Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?
I heard the SBA board gets their raises this week, and the rest of us have to wait till July lol
(Trigger warning for those without a sense of humor this is satire for those who were not aware)
Leftbehind802 said
May 17th
Next SBA meeting is on the 22nd. I hope we hear something then.
Asmfish said
May 19th
3testwonder wrote:
Anyone have updates on this retro/ raises?
I just looked at the PBAs email from their last contact. They send an email on 04/24/2023 that the contact was ratified and then on 04/27/2023 send an email that they where informed by the city the exact date that the pay raise and retro would be seen. it was around the full 90 days of 07/21/2023 (Im not going to count exactly). So. Its safe to say the SBA is fully aware of when we will see the raise and retro and more worried about emailing about a golf outing than their membership. Dont forget about this historical contract with no givebacks except for the give back of washup time and the give back of no raise for longevity of any sergeant with less then 10 years.
Side note Im not here for a dispute about If you think people with under 10 years deserve a raise. The fact is by keeping the longevity the same for The 5 year bump for the whole contact and not seeing a raise like the rest of the longevity, it is a giveback that they failed to mention.
-- Edited by Asmfish on Monday 19th of May 2025 05:44:43 PM
El Norte said
May 19th
Does anyone know when the updated amount for your final number with the raises will appear on the pension statement? Is it as soon as the raise kicks in? Or does it take longer.
VetteCop said
May 19th
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
LGB2024 said
May 19th
I heard Vinny could care less about his constituents. Make sure you sign up for the Golf outing.
NYM said
May 20th
VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.
Futureauxiliary said
May 20th
NYM wrote:
VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.
Im more interested in knowing when this raise will take effect on our checks. Im one of those 96k base victims so the retro can come whenever.
sector7 said
May 20th
Futureauxiliary wrote:
NYM wrote:
VetteCop wrote:
heard the dates will be announced at the delegate meeting this week
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.
Im more interested in knowing when this raise will take effect on our checks. Im one of those 96k base victims so the retro can come whenever.
Same, when are we going to see the new salary.
Our leadership is terrible and what is worse is that they have not realized that communication is all we have been asking through this whole process
DeptIsaJoke said
May 20th
I say again. If you vote for Vinny, you deserve every crappy contract and crappy representation on important issues.
-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Tuesday 20th of May 2025 12:22:27 PM
warnedANDadmonished said
May 20th
No one would be confused about anything of we were simply allowed to read the contract. Anyone know why is not readily available for viewing?
Futureauxiliary said
May 20th
In case anyone is wondering. The pay raise has not went into effect on this weeks check.
Futureauxiliary said
May 20th
Breaking News!
Limited Supply of Hershey Park Tickets!
WartimeConsigliere said
May 20th
A+ trolling from this union, I gotta say.
Addy1 said
May 21st
I just checked my ESS employment verification letter, and it states the new increased salary of $134,096, so its quite possible that we will see the raise if not this check next check.
fiftyfouredp said
May 21st
My ESS verification says the old amount still
NauseousPBBN said
May 21st
You will not see it that soon. They are going to give you time to adjust your 457k contribution and those changes takes 2 checks minimum. So getting the raise is at minimum July.
Bklynsouth3020 said
May 21st
The raise and the retro are 2 different things. 2 different checks. You might both be right.
WartimeConsigliere said
May 21st
Indeed. Been through about 5 contracts and never seen the raise go into effect more than 2 or 3 pay periods after ratification. Retro months later on account of 457 adjustments. I have never heard of effective dates being released more than two weeks after the fact though so its a brave new world where anythings possible. See you at the golf outing, quack.
Asmfish said
May 21st
WartimeConsigliere wrote:
Indeed. Been through about 5 contracts and never seen the raise go into effect more than 2 or 3 pay periods after ratification. Retro months later on account of 457 adjustments. I have never heard of effective dates being released more than two weeks after the fact though so its a brave new world where anythings possible. See you at the golf outing, quack.
The most recent PBA contract the raise and retro came together and 3 months later
For the purpose of placing into a pay scale it goes off of base pay and service differential. Which is why Dets with 5 years in rank were able to go to top pay when they added a step.
I think thats after the next PBA raise
Sgt pay step 3 is $110,175 - therefore Sgts go to step 4, which is $115,016.
That is my understanding.
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/olr/downloads/pdf/collectivebargaining/2021-2026/sba-unit-agreement-2021-2026.pdf
Again rumors , no clue if thats accurate.
OPA gets up to 90 days, and you are given time to make changes to 457 contributions.
Last contract was approved on 1/19 and raises took effect on 3/4 check.
-- Edited by NauseousPBBN on Tuesday 13th of May 2025 12:29:54 AM
Good to know. Sgt class went in on 2/7. Did that group fall under old or new contract ? Since technically the raise was in affect after 2/7?
This is just a reminder to not vote for Vinny or anybody associated with his administration when the election comes. Their incompetence is on full display.
-- Edited by GangGreenMets on Wednesday 14th of May 2025 01:39:49 PM
But who is running against them?
The precinct greeter has a better chance at winning the SBA election.
like WhatsApp chats or anybody with actual information
Truthfully, the vote needs to get passed the delegate body. If that occurs, this unelected board is done. The problem is the delegates and directors.
Ten of them need to step up.
June of 2026
I heard the SBA board gets their raises this week, and the rest of us have to wait till July lol
(Trigger warning for those without a sense of humor this is satire for those who were not aware)
I just looked at the PBAs email from their last contact. They send an email on 04/24/2023 that the contact was ratified and then on 04/27/2023 send an email that they where informed by the city the exact date that the pay raise and retro would be seen. it was around the full 90 days of 07/21/2023 (Im not going to count exactly). So. Its safe to say the SBA is fully aware of when we will see the raise and retro and more worried about emailing about a golf outing than their membership. Dont forget about this historical contract with no givebacks except for the give back of washup time and the give back of no raise for longevity of any sergeant with less then 10 years.
Side note Im not here for a dispute about If you think people with under 10 years deserve a raise. The fact is by keeping the longevity the same for The 5 year bump for the whole contact and not seeing a raise like the rest of the longevity, it is a giveback that they failed to mention.
-- Edited by Asmfish on Monday 19th of May 2025 05:44:43 PM
I can almost guarantee the city is taking the full 90 days and the retro will be on the August 15 check.
Im more interested in knowing when this raise will take effect on our checks. Im one of those 96k base victims so the retro can come whenever.
Same, when are we going to see the new salary.
Our leadership is terrible and what is worse is that they have not realized that communication is all we have been asking through this whole process
I say again. If you vote for Vinny, you deserve every crappy contract and crappy representation on important issues.
-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Tuesday 20th of May 2025 12:22:27 PM
Limited Supply of Hershey Park Tickets!
The most recent PBA contract the raise and retro came together and 3 months later