Shame on the SBA, corrupt to the core, vote these clowns out
TransitCop said
Apr 22, 2025
I cast my NO vote. It wont matter but at least these fucks need to know that not all of us taking this as a win.
DeptIsaJoke said
Apr 22, 2025
DeptIsaJoke said
Apr 22, 2025
The great debate of our time: Who was the worst union president? Pat Grinch or Vinny Schlong.
-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Tuesday 22nd of April 2025 02:13:14 PM
WartimeConsigliere said
Apr 22, 2025
At least Paddy brought us pizza.
Tier3scum said
Apr 22, 2025
Id have to say lynch is the worst. He let tier 3 happen under his watch. And never fixed anything besides us paying into 3/4. And the only reason I believe he even tried to fix it a little was because of his kids are in it
Thecolikesmen said
Apr 22, 2025
Vote NO. Do not give him the satisfaction of saying this contract was so good, it was approved by 99% of the rank at a presser.
ChuckTaylor said
Apr 23, 2025
FelonyOutstretched wrote:
The city did not "give" anything. The city won the retro battle with the millions they saved by not paying 1.5 years of top pay retro to 1200 Sgts because our union is not good at bargaining.
Sergeants promoted after July 2023 were not only paid $22,000 more in real time than Sergeants promoted before them, they'll also receive more straight time retro than them for the same period. There's the savings.
I'm happy for all my coworkers that will finally make some/more money here, but don't think your union made a good deal. It took them 2 years of the city making interest on your money to settle the exact same deal all the other unions already settled. Two years of pretending they had never heard the words "12", "hours", or "tour" just to take a pilot program and identical raises anyway, lmao.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Monday 21st of April 2025 09:54:30 PM
Its insane. This thread is full of cucks who are happy to get fucked over and trolls who dont give a fuck about anybody but themselves. I cant imagine making out like these rookie sergeants have and not having an ounce of sympathy for the guys that got screwed over. These guys are why the job and the union are in the state that theyre in, nobody looks out for each other and fucks each other over at every opportunity. They must be god awful supervisors.
y3nsid said
Apr 23, 2025
ChuckTaylor wrote:
FelonyOutstretched wrote:
The city did not "give" anything. The city won the retro battle with the millions they saved by not paying 1.5 years of top pay retro to 1200 Sgts because our union is not good at bargaining.
Sergeants promoted after July 2023 were not only paid $22,000 more in real time than Sergeants promoted before them, they'll also receive more straight time retro than them for the same period. There's the savings.
I'm happy for all my coworkers that will finally make some/more money here, but don't think your union made a good deal. It took them 2 years of the city making interest on your money to settle the exact same deal all the other unions already settled. Two years of pretending they had never heard the words "12", "hours", or "tour" just to take a pilot program and identical raises anyway, lmao.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Monday 21st of April 2025 09:54:30 PM
Its insane. This thread is full of cucks who are happy to get fucked over and trolls who dont give a fuck about anybody but themselves. I cant imagine making out like these rookie sergeants have and not having an ounce of sympathy for the guys that got screwed over. These guys are why the job and the union are in the state that theyre in, nobody looks out for each other and fucks each other over at every opportunity. They must be god awful supervisors.
You're right I really feel bad for the people who scored 40's on the 2017 exam, and furthermore if it wasn't for a global pandemic those guys that got "screwed over" would still be running a sector car and probably would have failed the 2022 exam... again.
No1isbetter said
Apr 23, 2025
All I got out of that was lets all vote no so we can get a higher retro while many of us starve to death fuck that. Were making $158k thru the door, this was far better than I couldve imagined.
Xchris176 said
Apr 23, 2025
y3nsid wrote:
ChuckTaylor wrote:
FelonyOutstretched wrote:
The city did not "give" anything. The city won the retro battle with the millions they saved by not paying 1.5 years of top pay retro to 1200 Sgts because our union is not good at bargaining.
Sergeants promoted after July 2023 were not only paid $22,000 more in real time than Sergeants promoted before them, they'll also receive more straight time retro than them for the same period. There's the savings.
I'm happy for all my coworkers that will finally make some/more money here, but don't think your union made a good deal. It took them 2 years of the city making interest on your money to settle the exact same deal all the other unions already settled. Two years of pretending they had never heard the words "12", "hours", or "tour" just to take a pilot program and identical raises anyway, lmao.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Monday 21st of April 2025 09:54:30 PM
Its insane. This thread is full of cucks who are happy to get fucked over and trolls who dont give a fuck about anybody but themselves. I cant imagine making out like these rookie sergeants have and not having an ounce of sympathy for the guys that got screwed over. These guys are why the job and the union are in the state that theyre in, nobody looks out for each other and fucks each other over at every opportunity. They must be god awful supervisors.
You're right I really feel bad for the people who scored 40's on the 2017 exam, and furthermore if it wasn't for a global pandemic those guys that got "screwed over" would still be running a sector car and probably would have failed the 2022 exam... again.
Lmao exactly, fail Sgt complainers
-- Edited by Xchris176 on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 01:12:14 PM
TransitCop said
Apr 23, 2025
Everyone promoted in second half of 2022 basically failed and only got promoted due to covid but that doesnt mean much on this job. But yeah your comments definitely reflect one way fuckery of this job and people on it.
FelonyOutstretched said
Apr 23, 2025
There seem to be some Day 2 Sgts with no integrity talking smack in here, lol. If a higher test score made you a better supervisor, we wouldn't have any white shirts getting fired for molesting cops or demoted for squashing index crimes. You hiding in the bathroom of the Javits Center on the phone with your mom looking up patrol guide answers doesn't make you better than the guys that were taking the Sergeants test while you were still a civilian. Relax guys.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:51:03 PM
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:53:08 PM
VetteCop said
Apr 23, 2025
TransitCop wrote:
Everyone promoted in second half of 2022 basically failed and only got promoted due to covid but that doesnt mean much on this job. But yeah your comments definitely reflect one way fuckery of this job and people on it.
And you know what they're called at roll call? Sergeant.
Most lower scoring sgt's are better than the higher scoring ones in my experience. I said what I said.
The contract is fine, but it's two years too late - and it 1000% sold out the 1200. A sergeant is a sergeant. You have a ranking system based off test score? That's not how this works, except for vacation picks.
Xchris176 said
Apr 23, 2025
FelonyOutstretched wrote:
There seem to be some Day 2 Sgts with no integrity talking smack in here, lol. If a higher test score made you a better supervisor, we wouldn't have any white shirts getting fired for molesting cops or demoted for squashing index crimes. You hiding in the bathroom of the Javits Center on the phone with your mom looking up patrol guide answers doesn't make you better than the guys that were taking the Sergeants test while you were still a civilian. Relax guys.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:51:03 PM
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:53:08 PM
Lmao
turk_the_finest said
Apr 23, 2025
This is exactly why our union is in incompetent hands. One disagreement and we already started tearing one another down on a public forum. You all have a vote. Click yes or no depending on your personal situation and move on.
Nyc507 said
Apr 30, 2025
Once the voting ends may 5th. Does that mean the contract is ratified? Or is there additional steps that need still take place.
-- Edited by Nyc507 on Wednesday 30th of April 2025 12:54:19 AM
ItCouldBeWorse said
Apr 30, 2025
Nyc507 wrote:
Once the voting ends may 5th. Does that mean the contract is ratified? Or is there additional steps that need still take place.
-- Edited by Nyc507 on Wednesday 30th of April 2025 12:54:19 AM
That's it, SBA will email a signed contract to OLR, OLR will endorse it on their end, then let use know when to expect payment so that we can adjust our personal deductions. (Def. Comp, etc) Expect union dues to go up within 12 months.
LGB2024 said
Apr 30, 2025
Im not sure if this was mentioned before, but can anyone confirm wether we will see the raise in our check prior to the retro?
GangGreenMets said
Apr 30, 2025
Unfortunately I think its after the retro, at least thats what I hear. Hopefully Im wrong.
Tuhin55 said
Apr 30, 2025
Will see the raise prior to retro
Tier3scum said
Apr 30, 2025
The raise should take effect about 2 pay periods after its ratified. Id be willing to bet both of my children the retro comes with the holiday check
Bklynsouth3020 said
Apr 30, 2025
Delegate told me raise should be beginning of June, retro beginning of July. And yea you can bet itll be the holiday check
TicketoutofNarco said
April 30th
You guys are counting money we dont have yet. There are Sgts out there doing voodoo to curse this.
ItCouldBeWorse said
April 30th
Vast majority of super senior and rookie Sgts are voting YES. Even if the 1200 voted no, it still passes easily...and most of the 1200 Sgts I spoke to are voting yes. We'll see in a few days.
GangGreenMets said
April 30th
I do not know one Sgt who voted no.
Xchris176 said
April 30th
TicketoutofNarco wrote:
You guys are counting money we dont have yet. There are Sgts out there doing voodoo to curse this.
In god we trust
FelonyOutstretched said
April 30th
GangGreenMets wrote:
I do not know one Sgt who voted no.
You know me
Futureauxiliary said
May 5th
Should we be expecting results today or tomorrow?
West72 said
May 5th
As per the SBA email w Voting instructions:
The polling will open at 12:00 PM EST on April 21, 2025. Voting will end at 12:00 PM EST on May 5, 2025
As everything is digitally tracked. It should not be hard to announce today. Hopefully with some clarity in regards to pay out dates, etc.
-- Edited by West72 on Monday 5th of May 2025 04:02:23 PM
ItCouldBeWorse said
May 5th
Today and payment dates by Thursday the latest.
standbyfor63 said
May 5th
Contract was approved with over 90 percent yes vote (in case you were wondering)
No1isbetter said
May 5th
Outstanding.
ItCouldBeWorse said
May 5th
Passed. 93.8% in Favor.
Xchris176 said
May 5th
TicketoutofNarco wrote:
You guys are counting money we dont have yet. There are Sgts out there doing voodoo to curse this.
God over all evil.
NYM said
May 5th
90 days to pay from today would put us at Sunday August 3. Retro would be in the Friday August 15 check if they take the full 90 days.
Asmfish said
May 5th
Does anyone know if the pay raise come before or the same check as the retro?
No1isbetter said
May 5th
I would expect the Pay raise to take effect June 6 check.
EOT63 said
May 6th
Does anyone know if theres a chart out detailing the pay breakdown? Like how much the new OT rate is for day and night rates, anticipate bi weekly paycheck etc.
An entry level Sgt with 10 yrs on will make less than a PO with 10 years on when everything (longevity, holiday, uniform) is factored in? Im seeing that correctly?
irishsaint12 said
May 6th
Thats the way it looks to me. Entry level base pay Sgt will make $298 more than top pay base PO. With longevity, neighborhood policing, etc. youll make about $8k less. The question is, which step will we go to upon promotion? Is it calculated off of strictly base pay? Or total compensation?
Nyc507 said
May 6th
irishsaint12 wrote:
Thats the way it looks to me. Entry level base pay Sgt will make $298 more than top pay base PO. With longevity, neighborhood policing, etc. youll make about $8k less. The question is, which step will we go to upon promotion? Is it calculated off of strictly base pay? Or total compensation?
I think Newly promoted sergeants will start at step 4. 120k
NauseousPBBN said
May 6th
Its off base pay
WartimeConsigliere said
May 6th
Welcome to the party, pal!
No1isbetter said
May 6th
WartimeConsigliere wrote:
Welcome to the party, pal!
Lmao!
Jopagocks said
May 6th
NauseousPBBN wrote:
Its off base pay
So newly promoted will be entry. Not step 4?
NauseousPBBN said
May 6th
I know it's shocking but yes
No1isbetter said
May 6th
I thought it was they all went to step 4 & stayed until they served the years to enter top pay. Also, come December, $109k goes to $114k.
NauseousPBBN said
May 6th
I could be wrong. I thought it went based off of base pay.
The great debate of our time: Who was the worst union president? Pat Grinch or Vinny Schlong.
-- Edited by DeptIsaJoke on Tuesday 22nd of April 2025 02:13:14 PM
Its insane. This thread is full of cucks who are happy to get fucked over and trolls who dont give a fuck about anybody but themselves. I cant imagine making out like these rookie sergeants have and not having an ounce of sympathy for the guys that got screwed over. These guys are why the job and the union are in the state that theyre in, nobody looks out for each other and fucks each other over at every opportunity. They must be god awful supervisors.
You're right I really feel bad for the people who scored 40's on the 2017 exam, and furthermore if it wasn't for a global pandemic those guys that got "screwed over" would still be running a sector car and probably would have failed the 2022 exam... again.
Lmao exactly, fail Sgt complainers
-- Edited by Xchris176 on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 01:12:14 PM
There seem to be some Day 2 Sgts with no integrity talking smack in here, lol. If a higher test score made you a better supervisor, we wouldn't have any white shirts getting fired for molesting cops or demoted for squashing index crimes. You hiding in the bathroom of the Javits Center on the phone with your mom looking up patrol guide answers doesn't make you better than the guys that were taking the Sergeants test while you were still a civilian. Relax guys.
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:51:03 PM
-- Edited by FelonyOutstretched on Wednesday 23rd of April 2025 02:53:08 PM
And you know what they're called at roll call? Sergeant.
Most lower scoring sgt's are better than the higher scoring ones in my experience. I said what I said.
The contract is fine, but it's two years too late - and it 1000% sold out the 1200. A sergeant is a sergeant. You have a ranking system based off test score? That's not how this works, except for vacation picks.
Lmao
Once the voting ends may 5th. Does that mean the contract is ratified? Or is there additional steps that need still take place.
-- Edited by Nyc507 on Wednesday 30th of April 2025 12:54:19 AM
That's it, SBA will email a signed contract to OLR, OLR will endorse it on their end, then let use know when to expect payment so that we can adjust our personal deductions. (Def. Comp, etc) Expect union dues to go up within 12 months.
Will see the raise prior to retro
In god we trust
You know me
As per the SBA email w Voting instructions:
The polling will open at 12:00 PM EST on April 21, 2025. Voting will end at 12:00 PM EST on May 5, 2025
As everything is digitally tracked. It should not be hard to announce today.
Hopefully with some clarity in regards to pay out dates, etc.
-- Edited by West72 on Monday 5th of May 2025 04:02:23 PM
God over all evil.
Here you go
An entry level Sgt with 10 yrs on will make less than a PO with 10 years on when everything (longevity, holiday, uniform) is factored in? Im seeing that correctly?
I think Newly promoted sergeants will start at step 4. 120k
Lmao!
So newly promoted will be entry. Not step 4?