Yeah? So leave. Go onto indeed.com and find a job that will pay you 100k w u limited sick, 27 vacation days, and a pension. Or go down south and join a police force there. Go use a taser in what?s deemed an inappropriate manner and be fired w no union representation. Or you can shut your mouth and do the damn job you CHOSE to get into
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Friday 18th of September 2020 10:44:27 PM
DT-Tres said
Sep 18, 2020
Brooklyn50 wrote:
This job sucks
Only for some!lol
Waiting too long said
Sep 19, 2020
Truth seeker, go drink some kool aid
Brooklyn50 said
Sep 19, 2020
Truthseeker wrote:
Brooklyn50 wrote:
This job sucks
Yeah? So leave. Go onto indeed.com and find a job that will pay you 100k w u limited sick, 27 vacation days, and a pension. Or go down south and join a police force there. Go use a taser in what?s deemed an inappropriate manner and be fired w no union representation. Or you can shut your mouth and do the damn job you CHOSE to get into
knew Some geek Would write something like this
thanks for telling me that I would have never known any of that had it not been for you reminding me.
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Friday 18th of September 2020 10:44:27 PM
Brooklyn50 said
Sep 19, 2020
Waiting too long wrote:
Truth seeker, go drink some kool aid
Yup
BROOKLYN77 said
Sep 19, 2020
Instead of bitching and moaning, just post when we know when the next class is going in, whenever the hell that is.
Truthseeker said
Sep 19, 2020
I forgot why ppl dont post on here. You want to complain about the job why not quit? Its the same stuff over and over how much everything sucks. Brooklyn let me tell you it doesnt get any better getting promoted. Actually it kind of gets worse. Its your crappy attitude from the beginning that actually makes you the worse boss possible. Bc instead of motivating ppl to do the best they can and taking any crappy situation and motivating your cops and backing them to do the best they can, all you would do is sit and join them and join in the misery. Yet theres a patrol guide procedure for vesting out that would solve all your problems according to you, yet here you are. Bc making the job better and motivating the cops to do the best they can while protecting them seems to be alil too much work for you Brooklyn. So be miserable Brooklyn. Ill promise you one thing as I have been a supervisor for a very long time, being miserable will get you no where on this job and dont think your cops or your supervisors will forget that misery you project. Trust me I know this job can suck at times for various reasons. Maybe instead of coming onto an anonymous forum you can actually try your best to turn it around and fix a small piece of it.
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Saturday 19th of September 2020 09:34:13 AM
Fewmoretogo said
Sep 19, 2020
oh please bro.. the executives bought into this media **** and basically agreed that we suck, instead of fighting the mayor about the cuts they went along with it, now everyone took a big pay cut, and crime is insane ( actually matters to People who raise a family in the city). They expect cops rookie and veteran to be robots unless they will be subject to this new crazy matrix. The job bought into the hype and now sucks. Will I vest? Naaa. Not leaving that money on the table, dont have much to go, but would I encourage anyone I know to take it? never in a million years. The pride I once had is gone. Your either a DI or higher stalking a Sgt forum or are delusional.
Brooklyn50 said
Sep 19, 2020
Fewmoretogo wrote:
oh please bro.. the executives bought into this media **** and basically agreed that we suck, instead of fighting the mayor about the cuts they went along with it, now everyone took a big pay cut, and crime is insane ( actually matters to People who raise a family in the city). They expect cops rookie and veteran to be robots unless they will be subject to this new crazy matrix. The job bought into the hype and now sucks. Will I vest? Naaa. Not leaving that money on the table, dont have much to go, but would I encourage anyone I know to take it? never in a million years. The pride I once had is gone. Your either a DI or higher stalking a Sgt forum or are delusional.
Yes thats exactly what I meant
the job itself isnt bad its how we clearly have no back from any of the executives
no one standing up to this pathetic mayor or anything like that.
Sgtnogood said
Sep 20, 2020
Job isn't that bad wtf are you talking about you must be a hamster
3rdtimetheCharm said
Sep 20, 2020
Has anyone else heard rumors of 12 hour tours no rdos from 10/24 - 11/11 due to anticipation of protests/riots?
brooklynbacon said
Sep 20, 2020
3rdtimetheCharm wrote:
Has anyone else heard rumors of 12 hour tours no rdos from 10/24 - 11/11 due to anticipation of protests/riots?
The week before Halloween seems way too early.
If one certain candidate wins i can see 4 years of protests.
They will rename the department New York Protest Detail.
3rdtimetheCharm said
Sep 20, 2020
brooklynbacon wrote:
3rdtimetheCharm wrote:
Has anyone else heard rumors of 12 hour tours no rdos from 10/24 - 11/11 due to anticipation of protests/riots?
The week before Halloween seems way too early.
If one certain candidate wins i can see 4 years of protests.
They will rename the department New York Protest Detail.
They already cancelled trainings from 10/26-11/6
BROOKLYN77 said
Sep 20, 2020
When President Trump wins again, expect all hell to break loose. All that OT we lost, we will get it back.
samuroy said
Sep 22, 2020
LT forum is saying that there will be promos but only for execs on sept 25. Boo.
Brooklyn50 said
Sep 23, 2020
samuroy wrote:
LT forum is saying that there will be promos but only for execs on sept 25. Boo.
I heard the same
said they put in for it but it was denied
BROOKLYN77 said
Sep 23, 2020
The only hope is the Christmas promotion they usually tend to do.
samuroy said
Sep 24, 2020
Im wondering what everyone thinks regarding the many non union employees that were put on furlough until March by DumBlasio, and whether you think it will result in promotions being delayed until then due to the negative optic created by pay raises.
TransitCop said
Sep 24, 2020
Department is getting to the point where they have no choice but to promote in order to stay operational. Most commands are really understaffed for supervisors.
RookieScum4Life said
Sep 24, 2020
1100 Recruits are getting hired on October 7th
rookiebit_h said
Sep 24, 2020
RookieScum4Life wrote:
1100 Recruits are getting hired on October 7th
youre a solid source Scum.. Thank You
Waiting too long said
Sep 24, 2020
Wow thats great, my friend in cad said they started up new mini medicinals this week I didnt believe him
samuroy said
Sep 24, 2020
How much of an effect do you guys think that has on promotions.
IamTheLaw said
Sep 24, 2020
I heard similar as well. Big recruit class which should work wonders for promos. But I didn't feel comfortable posting because of how many times the rug has been pulled out from underneath us lately. Call me cautiously optimistic. I guess the department headcount isn't shrinking as much as some people thought.
bignutz88 said
Sep 24, 2020
anyone get placed into that new early intervention program (discipline matrix)?
Does it affect promotions/transfers?
rookiebit_h said
Sep 24, 2020
IamTheLaw wrote:
I heard similar as well. Big recruit class which should work wonders for promos. But I didn't feel comfortable posting because of how many times the rug has been pulled out from underneath us lately. Call me cautiously optimistic. I guess the department headcount isn't shrinking as much as some people thought.
Also a great source! Thank you
TenFour16 said
Sep 24, 2020
Two guys who have had a good track record on what they say .... good stuff. No promos to Sgts and Lts suck but a class of 1100 is a step in the right direction. Those 1100 cops will need to be supervised.
Truthseeker said
Sep 24, 2020
The 1100 class is by no means guaranteed. It is looking good but with everything going on that doesnt mean anything at this point
rookiebit_h said
Sep 24, 2020
Truthseeker wrote:
The 1100 class is by no means guaranteed. It is looking good but with everything going on that doesnt mean anything at this point
take your negative nancy, debbie downer ass outta here
Dahomeless1 said
Sep 24, 2020
rookiebit_h wrote:
Truthseeker wrote:
The 1100 class is by no means guaranteed. It is looking good but with everything going on that doesnt mean anything at this point
take your negative nancy, debbie downer ass outta here
Exactly... Bye Truth. Sheesh .... you sure know how to mess up a wet dream!!
brooklynbacon said
Sep 24, 2020
I dont see anything happening until after the election. November will be an interesting end to 2020.
Truthseeker said
Sep 24, 2020
So you want fake news to placate your desire on an outcome that you have no control over??? Gotcha
SillyGoose said
Sep 24, 2020
Lol!!!
RS2323 said
Sep 25, 2020
It is pretty much 100% certain there will not be another recruit class till some time in 2021.
samuroy said
Sep 25, 2020
if there were to be a recruit class going in, and not that I'm doubting anyone cause I do appreciate anyone having the balls to share information, but would the gym instructors know by now? Im only asking because none of the ones that I know is hearing anything at all. Also, if a class going in were to positively effect promos, would it result in promos at the end of the academy class, or would the promos happen at the start?
yougonow said
Sep 25, 2020
I believe academy staff are on all out until end of this month.
RS2323 said
Sep 25, 2020
There's no staff. They will NOT have a recruit class this year, sorry. Anyone else saying otherwise if FOS
IamTheLaw said
Sep 25, 2020
Wow. These are some strong words. Reasons like that are why I don't post much anymore and just keep things to myself. This message board is aggravating. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens in a few weeks.... But as I said before. I'm cautiously optimistic! :)
20Nout said
Sep 27, 2020
Heard CARB started for SGT and LT. Does this mean a class is soon to start?
making dcas great again said
Sep 28, 2020
I know when you call dcas and listen to the automated system it says they certified list number is 1975.
yougonow said
Sep 28, 2020
How can we see how to extend this list? Im not worried about not getting promoted,but whats fair is fair.
making dcas great again said
Sep 28, 2020
Its going to be interesting to see what happens to this list. Whether they will extend. I know the list expires 1-24-2022. So we have approximately 15 months left
BROOKLYN77 said
Sep 28, 2020
If they do not extend the list, there will be a lot of pissed off people, and maybe even a lawsuit.
gmen18 said
Sep 28, 2020
the best indicator will be if they announce an exam in june for the end of 2020 start of 2021... if they do not announce by then it will be more than likely the dept will use this list into 2021. the worrisome part is that DCAS has announced FD promotional exams which could show that despite covid/economy, the city is still willing to administer tests
Noice said
Sep 28, 2020
Legally they are only mandated to keep the list active for one year. After that they can kill it whenever they want. So I dont see what grounds a suit would be based upon.
yougonow said
Sep 28, 2020
I was told by FD that one of their promotional lists were extended. I don't know which rank, but that's the word. So do we know which rank in FD will have an exam coming out and is there an active list out for that said rank?
Because on DCAS, there is NO PROMOTIONAL examinations on schedule. Nor are there any on the calendar. So where did you see this?
Also on DCAS: (for entry positions)
All eligible lists which were originally scheduled to terminate between March 16, 2020 and December 31, 2020 will be extended by one year. In addition, all eligible lists for exams for Police Officer, Police Communications Technician, Traffic Enforcement Agent and School Safety Agent which are scheduled to terminate between January 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 will be extended by one year. Inquiries regarding the status of an eligible list can be e-mailed to the New York City Department of Citywide Administrative Services at: LMAcustomerserviceunit@dcas.nyc.gov.
Lawsuit for what? Scoring a 70 after they threw out about 10 questions? Thus why they made the list this large; to avoid lawsuits. Next exam will be announced in about 6 months. Exam in 2022.
monkeybones said
Sep 29, 2020
It is highly unlikely that they will extend any list. This is unfortunate but lets face the facts. The city is broke and by giving more exams charging their 90-110$ per exam will recoup much needed money. If Im a betting man there will be new tests announced within the next 8 months
-- Edited by monkeybones on Tuesday 29th of September 2020 12:23:40 AM
yougonow said
Sep 29, 2020
Ok so they announce an exam in 8 months. Cool. We are now in lets say JUNE of 2021. Now the city gives people what.. about 6-8 months of study time. People now take the exam in January-March of 2022. It then takes another 6 months to dispute answers, and finalize the scores. So now we are in June-Sept 2022 and then maybe just maybe put in a BMOC in Sept/Oct 2022. A solid 9/10 months of no BMOC. That is just absurd.
If the city cared to give another exam, they would have announced it by now or will announce it no later than January. Although if that was the case, we would have heard chatter by now.
So all in all. I BELIEVE there is a good chance of a 1yr extension. Could I be wrong, absolute. But the stars are aligning to an extension. All we got is 50/50.
-- Edited by yougonow on Tuesday 29th of September 2020 02:28:05 AM
Yeah? So leave. Go onto indeed.com and find a job that will pay you 100k w u limited sick, 27 vacation days, and a pension. Or go down south and join a police force there. Go use a taser in what?s deemed an inappropriate manner and be fired w no union representation. Or you can shut your mouth and do the damn job you CHOSE to get into
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Friday 18th of September 2020 10:44:27 PM
Only for some!lol
Yup
I forgot why ppl dont post on here. You want to complain about the job why not quit? Its the same stuff over and over how much everything sucks. Brooklyn let me tell you it doesnt get any better getting promoted. Actually it kind of gets worse. Its your crappy attitude from the beginning that actually makes you the worse boss possible. Bc instead of motivating ppl to do the best they can and taking any crappy situation and motivating your cops and backing them to do the best they can, all you would do is sit and join them and join in the misery. Yet theres a patrol guide procedure for vesting out that would solve all your problems according to you, yet here you are. Bc making the job better and motivating the cops to do the best they can while protecting them seems to be alil too much work for you Brooklyn. So be miserable Brooklyn. Ill promise you one thing as I have been a supervisor for a very long time, being miserable will get you no where on this job and dont think your cops or your supervisors will forget that misery you project. Trust me I know this job can suck at times for various reasons. Maybe instead of coming onto an anonymous forum you can actually try your best to turn it around and fix a small piece of it.
-- Edited by Truthseeker on Saturday 19th of September 2020 09:34:13 AM
oh please bro.. the executives bought into this media **** and basically agreed that we suck, instead of fighting the mayor about the cuts they went along with it, now everyone took a big pay cut, and crime is insane ( actually matters to People who raise a family in the city). They expect cops rookie and veteran to be robots unless they will be subject to this new crazy matrix. The job bought into the hype and now sucks. Will I vest? Naaa. Not leaving that money on the table, dont have much to go, but would I encourage anyone I know to take it? never in a million years. The pride I once had is gone. Your either a DI or higher stalking a Sgt forum or are delusional.
Yes thats exactly what I meant
the job itself isnt bad its how we clearly have no back from any of the executives
no one standing up to this pathetic mayor or anything like that.
The week before Halloween seems way too early.
If one certain candidate wins i can see 4 years of protests.
They will rename the department New York Protest Detail.
They already cancelled trainings from 10/26-11/6
I heard the same
said they put in for it but it was denied
youre a solid source Scum.. Thank You
Does it affect promotions/transfers?
Also a great source! Thank you
take your negative nancy, debbie downer ass outta here
Exactly... Bye Truth. Sheesh .... you sure know how to mess up a wet dream!!
Lol!!!
There's no staff. They will NOT have a recruit class this year, sorry. Anyone else saying otherwise if FOS
I know when you call dcas and listen to the automated system it says they certified list number is 1975.
Its going to be interesting to see what happens to this list. Whether they will extend. I know the list expires 1-24-2022. So we have approximately 15 months left
Because on DCAS, there is NO PROMOTIONAL examinations on schedule. Nor are there any on the calendar. So where did you see this?
Also on DCAS: (for entry positions)
All eligible lists which were originally scheduled to terminate between March 16, 2020 and December 31, 2020 will be extended by one year. In addition, all eligible lists for exams for Police Officer, Police Communications Technician, Traffic Enforcement Agent and School Safety Agent which are scheduled to terminate between January 1, 2021 and December 31, 2021 will be extended by one year. Inquiries regarding the status of an eligible list can be e-mailed to the New York City Department of Citywide Administrative Services at: LMAcustomerserviceunit@dcas.nyc.gov.
https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/20211551000.pdf
It is highly unlikely that they will extend any list. This is unfortunate but lets face the facts. The city is broke and by giving more exams charging their 90-110$ per exam will recoup much needed money. If Im a betting man there will be new tests announced within the next 8 months
-- Edited by monkeybones on Tuesday 29th of September 2020 12:23:40 AM
Ok so they announce an exam in 8 months. Cool. We are now in lets say JUNE of 2021. Now the city gives people what.. about 6-8 months of study time. People now take the exam in January-March of 2022. It then takes another 6 months to dispute answers, and finalize the scores. So now we are in June-Sept 2022 and then maybe just maybe put in a BMOC in Sept/Oct 2022. A solid 9/10 months of no BMOC. That is just absurd.
If the city cared to give another exam, they would have announced it by now or will announce it no later than January. Although if that was the case, we would have heard chatter by now.
So all in all. I BELIEVE there is a good chance of a 1yr extension. Could I be wrong, absolute. But the stars are aligning to an extension. All we got is 50/50.
-- Edited by yougonow on Tuesday 29th of September 2020 02:28:05 AM