I'm 100% sure it stated operations for bomb squad and DEP Direct. The other choices were 300 feet and establish command post.
It didn't say anything about DEP, I'm sure of that.
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
unborn wrote:
wereinbacklog wrote:
I'm 100% sure it stated operations for bomb squad and DEP Direct. The other choices were 300 feet and establish command post.
It didn't say anything about DEP, I'm sure of that.
The four answer choices went like this in no particular order
(1) minimum distance of 300 feet
(2) establish command post
(3) notifiy operations for bomb squad
(4) notify DEP direct
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
I went over this test twice and that question held me up a bit that's why I remember it. In fact I check for the correct answer as soon as I got out from the test site.
Jimmy McNulty said
Oct 31, 2011
Comm to request ops to notify the bomb squad, 100 percent. Didn't say ops direct.
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
Yes def said communications to notify operations--150 percent it said that
Hate the PG said
Oct 31, 2011
Did anyone else not give the conditions spot to SGT Ahmed because he was retiring. The 49 on page 2 asked for excusals for his party. I think I gave a point away. Jeez I hate this waiting on DCAS.
Rediceten said
Oct 31, 2011
Hate the PG wrote:
Did anyone else not give the conditions spot to SGT Ahmed because he was retiring. The 49 on page 2 asked for excusals for his party. I think I gave a point away. Jeez I hate this waiting on DCAS.
Given the subjective nature of this test, we can protest this question with the argument that he was retiring UNLESS we give him that spot. Obviously, now he's gonna stay......
Gluestick said
Oct 31, 2011
I remember reading the question on the PAR BUS/TRUCK supplement form and all the answers said either you "reference" or not but i don't remember seeing the word MARKER in the answers just reference, so were they asking you use the reference MARKER or the referernce BOOK?
RICH-PD said
Oct 31, 2011
Not only did isay reference the marker at the scene but it actually repeated the marker in each questions 5S23 or whatever it was
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
The thing with that question is, did it really only say rental truck over 10,000 and biohazard placard (not hazmat). If it didn't specifically say commercial and hazmat then no supplement
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
Ok so bottom line on the truck/bus par question--the answer is 1 par, 0 supplemental and do not reference the marker.....can we put that to rest now??
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
Big guy, thats what I put but how f*cking grimey is that question
unborn said
Oct 31, 2011
I believe it said commercial rental truck in the question.
A biohazard placard is a type of hazmat placard according to federal regs.
So for the next Lt test I'm going to have to take, I will be sure to brush up on my grammar, police supervision, federal DOT standards, liberal arts and counseling. I'll burn the Patrol Guide since it's useless.
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
I know. If it had 2 supplements as a choice I would have picked. I thought I was missing something so I just went with 0 supplements
Gluestick said
Oct 31, 2011
does "reference the marker" mean write it down from the scene or look it up in the stationhouse?
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
RISING IDIOT wrote:
Big guy, thats what I put but how f*cking grimey is that question
Extremely! To not be clear if rental commercial is the same as commercial, bio-hazard is same as regular haz-mat, and since the cops requested the tow does that imply the truck is therefore towed hence a condition of severity??!! Crazy but went with 0 supplemental cuz it didnt spell out it was indeed towed - if cond of severity in the PG was defined as a vehicle is "requested" to be towed then it would be do the supplemental. It doesnt so thats what i put.
RICH-PD said
Oct 31, 2011
It said reference the marker 5S23 which in the question is the one they say is actually posted on the bridge...
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
One that i think is pretty cut and dry is the nursing home one--simply put she is choking and cant breathe. The rule is doa, cardiac, injury. Choking and not breathing is not the same as cardiac, cardiac means an issue with ur heart, ur heart could still be beating and normal while choking. People say well if u didnt do anything it would of resulted in a cardiac when she suffocated and heart then stopped, on other hand u can read into it saying she may also of been able to cough it up too who knows! Again--choking and not breathing is not a cardiac or injury so therefore i feel its go 98...
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
My 2008 sgt test said spilling coffee on herself was not routine sick at a nursing home. Thats why I def don't think choking will be a situation where you can just go 98
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
did it just say spilling coffee or red hot coffee which would be an injury or what??
infinity said
Oct 31, 2011
What it actually says is other than a routine sick( injury cardiac doa ETC..). A lady choking and they had to do the heimlich which didn't work, to me fit the ETC.
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
Not sure... Did anyone else not see the memo about how to realign the sectors? I swear i read through that in-basket 3 times and I don't remember seeing that
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
Infinity ok if it says etc then choking can def fit in then...
RICH-PD said
Oct 31, 2011
Yes there was an item instructing you how to realign the sectors
Jimmy McNulty said
Oct 31, 2011
Refardless of whether or not you consider it an injury, the answer said to go 98 which is wrong. Your thinking of routine sick at home. If it's a nursing home with no injury, you don't even go.
Jimmy McNulty said
Oct 31, 2011
And yes I said refardless, it's a word look it up, it's in the dictionary right next to abeyance.
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
Jimmy McNulty wrote:
And yes I said refardless, it's a word look it up, it's in the dictionary right next to abeyance.
Abeyance= Temporary suspension, thank God I took d GRE this year and learned that word lol.
infinity said
Oct 31, 2011
Lol
Nypdblue said
Oct 31, 2011
Anyone notice one of the grammar questions at the end of the sentence there was no quote to close at the sentence ('') I pick the one without the qoute at the end don't know If that's where they were going or they forget it themselves
sharpie973 said
Oct 31, 2011
Anything in a nursing home that can lead to death (asphyxiation due to a foreign object lodged in the throat) is not a routine sick at home.
Nypdblue said
Oct 31, 2011
SpeAking on grammar one of the patrol guide question they have a ) don notify ummmm it's don't it wasnt even a grammar question u gotta love it !
bigfoot45 said
Oct 31, 2011
If you think someone who is choking, especially who is at a nursing home is routine like a tummy ache you dropped the ball.
Cathetel said
Oct 31, 2011
Nypdblue wrote:
SpeAking on grammar one of the patrol guide question they have a ) don notify ummmm it's don't it wasnt even a grammar question u gotta love it !
Disgraceful.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
The choking person was not a routine sick at home, they did the heimlich and it didn't work? You can't just go 98. It is an interpretation of what is and is not a routine sick at home and I guess wants you to use judgement? I guess as a straight PG question it is possible to challenge since it is not defined, but I went with doing the Aided Card which I believe is the right answer. Was the sector alignment as easy as looking at CO memo with the proper alignment with 6 sectors or did I miss some trick? It seemed too easy.
As for Sgt Ahmed retiring, I think I missed that, I forget who I picked and why, I was running out of time since I did the in basket last. As for giving the cop the "E" Day, I asked him if any other family members could take his child to the hospital, which did not grant or deny the "E" Day in the answer. The other choices I believe had you either granting or denying, I was looking for more info in asking if someone else in his family could care for the child. Am I right? I have no idea, it was a completely subjective in basket question and also how do you adjust a RC to someone if you are not even certain if you gave him an "E" Day? Then again there were two roll calls and I hardly think it mattered if you adjusted it or not for most of the questions.
Bumpy said
Oct 31, 2011
owner of cell phone was blank
sharpie973 said
Oct 31, 2011
The time for requesting the ambulance was wrong too (not to). It is 20 minutes.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
Yea, they said 15 minutes, going 98 was wrong, so its between the aided card or activity log. Wow, this test was petty...
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
Bumpy wrote:
owner of cell phone was blank
It didn't matter, it was invoiced as "safekeeping" when the IMEI # was tampered with, should have been "investigatory" which is why it was wrong.
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
What did you guys pick for the other 217 Accident question with the guy that walked into a different pct than where the accident happened with a broken hand 6 days after the accident wanting to do a report for leaving the scene and a PAR? I thought that was tricky as Phuck!!!
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
What did you guys pick for the other 217 Accident question with the guy that walked into a different pct than where the accident happened with a broken hand 6 days after the accident wanting to do a report for leaving the scene and a PAR? I thought that was tricky as Phuck!!!
I said refer him. Thats the one time you "break the golden rule"....i think
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
But do you still take a leaving the scene 61 and a PAR for an accident 6 days in the past? Even if you refer him, do they ever do a 61 or PAR? Or do you just give him a MV104 bc he waited too long and was not involved with an accident that had a commercial vehicle/tow or SPI?
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
Does anyone know the correct answer to the Identity Theft question?
RISING IDIOT said
Oct 31, 2011
ID theft recorded in her res pct
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
Thanks, I guessed that one correctly lol.
wereinbacklog said
Oct 31, 2011
Even if it's true that the answer choice states communications-operations-bomb squad the most correct step is to establish a command post because it precedes calling the bomb squad.
big guy said
Oct 31, 2011
Anyone notice the mis-spelling in the street name of the map question? I believe it said allens street and the map said allen street. Also a choice later said "don nt" instead of "don't". Are these automatic throw outs??
HB said
Oct 31, 2011
RISING IDIOT wrote:
ID theft recorded in her res pct
I believe its petty larceny. It would be id theft if there wasnt any purchases made
PatrolGuideismyBible said
Oct 31, 2011
Yes it is petit larceny by the business that was ripped off but the complainant in the question was the woman, so I went with ID theft in her resident precinct. Anyone have a copy of the Crime Reporting Reference Guide to confirm or debunk this? Even in the ID Theft PG procedure it just tells you to fill out pages 1 and 2 on Lost/Stolen Property/ID theft form and refers you to the crime reference guide!!!
HB said
Oct 31, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Yes it is petit larceny by the business that was ripped off but the complainant in the question was the woman, so I went with ID theft in her resident precinct. Anyone have a copy of the Crime Reporting Reference Guide to confirm or debunk this? Even in the ID Theft PG procedure it just tells you to fill out pages 1 and 2 on Lost/Stolen Property/ID theft form and refers you to the crime reference guide!!!
Jesus christ it seems like there was a curve ball to every dam question!
OkeeDokee said
Oct 31, 2011
PatrolGuideismyBible wrote:
Yes it is petit larceny by the business that was ripped off but the complainant in the question was the woman, so I went with ID theft in her resident precinct. Anyone have a copy of the Crime Reporting Reference Guide to confirm or debunk this? Even in the ID Theft PG procedure it just tells you to fill out pages 1 and 2 on Lost/Stolen Property/ID theft form and refers you to the crime reference guide!!!
It is absolutely classified as a petit larceny. Almost verbatim from CCRS. Due to $ amount, petit larceny is top charge.
It didn't say anything about DEP, I'm sure of that.
The four answer choices went like this in no particular order
(1) minimum distance of 300 feet
(2) establish command post
(3) notifiy operations for bomb squad
(4) notify DEP direct
Yes def said communications to notify operations--150 percent it said that
Given the subjective nature of this test, we can protest this question with the argument that he was retiring UNLESS we give him that spot. Obviously, now he's gonna stay......
The thing with that question is, did it really only say rental truck over 10,000 and biohazard placard (not hazmat). If it didn't specifically say commercial and hazmat then no supplement
Ok so bottom line on the truck/bus par question--the answer is 1 par, 0 supplemental and do not reference the marker.....can we put that to rest now??
A biohazard placard is a type of hazmat placard according to federal regs.
So for the next Lt test I'm going to have to take, I will be sure to brush up on my grammar, police supervision, federal DOT standards, liberal arts and counseling. I'll burn the Patrol Guide since it's useless.
Extremely! To not be clear if rental commercial is the same as commercial, bio-hazard is same as regular haz-mat, and since the cops requested the tow does that imply the truck is therefore towed hence a condition of severity??!! Crazy but went with 0 supplemental cuz it didnt spell out it was indeed towed - if cond of severity in the PG was defined as a vehicle is "requested" to be towed then it would be do the supplemental. It doesnt so thats what i put.
One that i think is pretty cut and dry is the nursing home one--simply put she is choking and cant breathe. The rule is doa, cardiac, injury. Choking and not breathing is not the same as cardiac, cardiac means an issue with ur heart, ur heart could still be beating and normal while choking. People say well if u didnt do anything it would of resulted in a cardiac when she suffocated and heart then stopped, on other hand u can read into it saying she may also of been able to cough it up too who knows! Again--choking and not breathing is not a cardiac or injury so therefore i feel its go 98...
did it just say spilling coffee or red hot coffee which would be an injury or what??
Infinity ok if it says etc then choking can def fit in then...
Abeyance= Temporary suspension, thank God I took d GRE this year and learned that word lol.
Anything in a nursing home that can lead to death (asphyxiation due to a foreign object lodged in the throat) is not a routine sick at home.
you dropped the ball.
Disgraceful.
As for Sgt Ahmed retiring, I think I missed that, I forget who I picked and why, I was running out of time since I did the in basket last. As for giving the cop the "E" Day, I asked him if any other family members could take his child to the hospital, which did not grant or deny the "E" Day in the answer. The other choices I believe had you either granting or denying, I was looking for more info in asking if someone else in his family could care for the child. Am I right? I have no idea, it was a completely subjective in basket question and also how do you adjust a RC to someone if you are not even certain if you gave him an "E" Day? Then again there were two roll calls and I hardly think it mattered if you adjusted it or not for most of the questions.
owner of cell phone was blank
It didn't matter, it was invoiced as "safekeeping" when the IMEI # was tampered with, should have been "investigatory" which is why it was wrong.
Anyone notice the mis-spelling in the street name of the map question? I believe it said allens street and the map said allen street. Also a choice later said "don nt" instead of "don't". Are these automatic throw outs??
It is absolutely classified as a petit larceny. Almost verbatim from CCRS. Due to $ amount, petit larceny is top charge.