Nypdnypd3100 wrote:

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Steady midnights and mobile field force actually sounds awesome.

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Seriously! I'll do 5 years as a Captain doing Mobile Field Forces. Those details are a joke!

Does this statement still hold true?

How often are Captains getting hit with these details?

DetailBoss wrote:

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Nypdnypd3100 wrote:

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Steady midnights and mobile field force actually sounds awesome.

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Seriously! I'll do 5 years as a Captain doing Mobile Field Forces. Those details are a joke!

 

Does this statement still hold true?

How often are Captains getting hit with these details?

-- Edited by DetailBoss on Wednesday 8th of May 2024 10:45:43 AM

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 Rookie Captains are getting it 3-4 times per week 

DRPapi1983 wrote:

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They will revamp those details for the summer

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 Yupp! They're going to be a mix of either the protests or all-out in the more violent commands

PD2FD wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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They will revamp those details for the summer

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 Yupp! They're going to be a mix of either the protests or all-out in the more violent commands

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 Yes. Its already begun. Not for Captains. Below the rank of Captain.Captains are needed for 6X2 coverage , duties and MFF for protests ONLY. 

Bill Parcells wrote:

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Any caps promos this month? I'd be shocked...

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 I heard every other month so no. Maybe June,..but they are preparing for the Summer (All Out, MFF, etc). After the summer. List WILL SLOW DOWN!

DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Bill Parcells wrote:

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Any caps promos this month? I'd be shocked...

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 I heard every other month so no. Maybe June,..but they are preparing for the Summer (All Out, MFF, etc). After the summer. List WILL SLOW DOWN!

 

 

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 Not sure if you're just trying to troll, if so then carry on. 

But if you're actually providing information then I'm shocked you would write that. 

-i heard every other month....... Lol Nobody told you that, simply put

-They are preparing for Summer - What does that have anything to with promotions lol

-After Summer list will slow down - Unless you're on the city council public safety budget committee, you're posting rubbish lol. It's all in relation to attrition, vacancies, new hires and future projections (hence the large list). Then poof a number is spit out and there you have it

Hopefully you're just trolling, if not, my good man it's time to start exploring vacations and some good beach bars or something 

InsideGuy wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Bill Parcells wrote:

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Any caps promos this month? I'd be shocked...

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 I heard every other month so no. Maybe June,..but they are preparing for the Summer (All Out, MFF, etc). After the summer. List WILL SLOW DOWN!

 

 

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 Not sure if you're just trying to troll, if so then carry on. 

 

But if you're actually providing information then I'm shocked you would write that. 

 

-i heard every other month....... Lol Nobody told you that, simply put

 

-They are preparing for Summer - What does that have anything to with promotions lol

 

-After Summer list will slow down - Unless you're on the city council public safety budget committee, you're posting rubbish lol. It's all in relation to attrition, vacancies, new hires and future projections (hence the large list). Then poof a number is spit out and there you have it

 

Hopefully you're just trolling, if not, my good man it's time to start exploring vacations and some good beach bars or something 

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 I Imagine promos would slow from may to August. It's the summer, we got protests coming up, political conventions coming up in other states that will cause mayhem here Etc. we'll see how it plays out 

Bill Parcells wrote:

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InsideGuy wrote:

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DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Bill Parcells wrote:

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Any caps promos this month? I'd be shocked...

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 I heard every other month so no. Maybe June,..but they are preparing for the Summer (All Out, MFF, etc). After the summer. List WILL SLOW DOWN!

 

 

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 Not sure if you're just trying to troll, if so then carry on. 

 

But if you're actually providing information then I'm shocked you would write that. 

 

-i heard every other month....... Lol Nobody told you that, simply put

 

-They are preparing for Summer - What does that have anything to with promotions lol

 

-After Summer list will slow down - Unless you're on the city council public safety budget committee, you're posting rubbish lol. It's all in relation to attrition, vacancies, new hires and future projections (hence the large list). Then poof a number is spit out and there you have it

 

Hopefully you're just trolling, if not, my good man it's time to start exploring vacations and some good beach bars or something 

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 I Imagine promos would slow from may to August. It's the summer, we got protests coming up, political conventions coming up in other states that will cause mayhem here Etc. we'll see how it plays out 

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 Oh for sure, all valid points. I'm just addressing those that say "I was told" lol no you were not. This is your opinion. As you've said, let it play out

Aaaaaaaaa... as long as they get through 130-150 a year, who cares.... I'll take it whenever.... More time to capitalize on the CASH OT that's being handed out like gum.....

4th Time wrote:

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Aaaaaaaaa... as long as they get through 130-150 a year, who cares.... I'll take it whenever.... More time to capitalize on the CASH OT that's being handed out like gum.....

-- Edited by 4th Time on Tuesday 14th of May 2024 04:42:11 PM

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DING DING DING ! In all seriousness, promotions will slow down , every other month. Good luck to all. Please dont shoot the messenger. Summer is here. We will pick up afterwards. 

PD2FD wrote:

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DRpapi has NEVER provided solid information. He mentions his opinion and then states "I was told by the higher ups". He's going to be wrong again at the end of the month when promotions occur. He has been debunked at least 50 times.

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 Exactly 

PD2FD wrote:

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DRpapi has NEVER provided solid information. He mentions his opinion and then states "I was told by the higher ups". He's going to be wrong again at the end of the month when promotions occur. He has been debunked at least 50 times.

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 Here we go,..

InsideGuy wrote:

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PD2FD wrote:

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DRpapi has NEVER provided solid information. He mentions his opinion and then states "I was told by the higher ups". He's going to be wrong again at the end of the month when promotions occur. He has been debunked at least 50 times.

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 Exactly 

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 Take a look at my track record. I have always been on point. No need to validate. I simply just provide info Im given. Please respect the guidelines and do not shoot the messenger. Thank you. 

DRPapi1983 wrote:

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InsideGuy wrote:

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PD2FD wrote:

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DRpapi has NEVER provided solid information. He mentions his opinion and then states "I was told by the higher ups". He's going to be wrong again at the end of the month when promotions occur. He has been debunked at least 50 times.

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 Exactly 

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 Take a look at my track record. I have always been on point. No need to validate. I simply just provide info Im given. Please respect the guidelines and do not shoot the messenger. Thank you. 

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 May 31...... Still holding onto your imaginary source who told you every other month? Don't try and backtrack now. All receipts kept lol

Why make captain? To have a shieeet schedule and ruin your family life if you have children. Only good if you have no kids or a crane to put you on a Monday-Friday only days.

Chronic A wrote:

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Why make captain? To have a shieeet schedule and ruin your family life if you have children. Only good if you have no kids or a crane to put you on a Monday-Friday only days.

-- Edited by Chronic A on Tuesday 18th of June 2024 12:26:29 AM

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 What Boro do you work? Is that the overall consensus?

A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

Edubz wrote:

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A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

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 Good point. Always bank on what you have (Your base salary without OT). Go for the pay raise 

Edubz wrote:

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A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

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 What are the rules for overtime in cash for Captains?

180 per year straight time cash until you reach top pay. After that it's all time.

Spanish mama wrote:

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Edubz wrote:

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A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

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 What are the rules for overtime in cash for Captains?

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 180 your first two years. 120 your third year. 

Edubz wrote:

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A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

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 Disagree. 
our profession is no longer popular. Gone are the days of 1500+ classes every 6 month. 
those days are over. 
as more impact classes retire downtown will allocate more $ to stave off manpower shortages. Top pay LTs right now make as much as top pay CPT if not more

DRPapi1983 wrote:

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Edubz wrote:

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A top pay Capt still earns about $40K more than an LT. And before you say OT, not everyone has OT available and who's to say its gonna be there when you're ready to retire.

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 Good point. Always bank on what you have (Your base salary without OT). Go for the pay raise 

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 Its all about how much $ you make at the end of the year. 
as a Lt I was making more than full birds for at least 5-6 years and all of them have less $ in their ITHP than me. 

Truthseeker wrote:

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Stop comparing apples to oranges. For you to make more than an inspector youre working over 60 hours more a month than I am. On top of that Ill make just as much as you w a take home car and msking 60 hours time. So congrats on killing the overtime your last year while Im vacationing across the globe msking your same salary w my 3 to 4 years on the book. If you cant deal w executive life I get it but stop thinking lt rank perk wise compared to the executive rank bc I promise you it does not.

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Truthseeker wrote:

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Stop comparing apples to oranges. For you to make more than an inspector youre working over 60 hours more a month than I am. On top of that Ill make just as much as you w a take home car and msking 60 hours time. So congrats on killing the overtime your last year while Im vacationing across the globe msking your same salary w my 3 to 4 years on the book. If you cant deal w executive life I get it but stop thinking lt rank perk wise compared to the executive rank bc I promise you it does not.

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 LOL. 
3 years in the books=6000 hrs which means you worked 4000hrs for time while I was showeling $ into my investments.  
as I said earlier I made more than any inspector whom I know personally. My ITHP blows them out the water while they had a take home car and 60hrs in time And 3-4 years in the books

Personally, Ive been an exec little less than a year and I am retiring for private sector(took the rank just for that purpose) in my case, that was the best perk of cpt rank and thats where it ends. 

Leslie wrote:

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If youre in a good spot as a Lt making 30 more hrs of ot pass the promotion. Especially if youre close to retirement and Sat/sun rdo. I should have stayed a Lt. Look people will say you can get out of the game if you want but good luck. Under this regime they will keep you hostage on patrol unless youre a made man, forget a hook or crane that no longer works. Capts rank is for longevity however the problem is its not as easy as it used to be and finding a gig is hard, they wont let you out. As a Capt youre treated worse than a PPO and scrutinized to the max. 20 is plenty coming from someone who wanted to do 25-30.

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 How long have you been a captain and Im guessing you are still on patrol? 

Leslie wrote:

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If youre in a good spot as a Lt making 30 more hrs of ot pass the promotion. Especially if youre close to retirement and Sat/sun rdo. I should have stayed a Lt. Look people will say you can get out of the game if you want but good luck. Under this regime they will keep you hostage on patrol unless youre a made man, forget a hook or crane that no longer works. Capts rank is for longevity however the problem is its not as easy as it used to be and finding a gig is hard, they wont let you out. As a Capt youre treated worse than a PPO and scrutinized to the max. 20 is plenty coming from someone who wanted to do 25-30.

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 This is pretty much spot on. being an xo is hell. You have to be there to really understand it.

Jibberjab wrote:

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Leslie wrote:

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If youre in a good spot as a Lt making 30 more hrs of ot pass the promotion. Especially if youre close to retirement and Sat/sun rdo. I should have stayed a Lt. Look people will say you can get out of the game if you want but good luck. Under this regime they will keep you hostage on patrol unless youre a made man, forget a hook or crane that no longer works. Capts rank is for longevity however the problem is its not as easy as it used to be and finding a gig is hard, they wont let you out. As a Capt youre treated worse than a PPO and scrutinized to the max. 20 is plenty coming from someone who wanted to do 25-30.

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 How long have you been a captain and Im guessing you are still on patrol? 

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 Too long and yes patrol. Youll be stuck here for a long time, getting out isnt easy. Dont believe anyone else who tells you it is. Btw hsg and tb is way worse with hours and duties but might be easier to get out. Goodluck, all the capts I personally know want to retire and pull the plug earlier than expected lol never seen it this bad. Only job where the higher you go the worse youre treated  

-- Edited by Leslie on Monday 24th of June 2024 01:51:48 AM

ullage amount wrote:

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Truthseeker wrote:

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Stop comparing apples to oranges. For you to make more than an inspector youre working over 60 hours more a month than I am. On top of that Ill make just as much as you w a take home car and msking 60 hours time. So congrats on killing the overtime your last year while Im vacationing across the globe msking your same salary w my 3 to 4 years on the book. If you cant deal w executive life I get it but stop thinking lt rank perk wise compared to the executive rank bc I promise you it does not.

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 LOL. 
3 years in the books=6000 hrs which means you worked 4000hrs for time while I was showeling $ into my investments.  
as I said earlier I made more than any inspector whom I know personally. My ITHP blows them out the water while they had a take home car and 60hrs in time And 3-4 years in the books

Personally, Ive been an exec little less than a year and I am retiring for private sector(took the rank just for that purpose) in my case, that was the best perk of cpt rank and thats where it ends. 

 

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You do realize 3 years on the books is 750k before taxes? Time is not free. 

Tommy Salami wrote:

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Leslie wrote:

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If youre in a good spot as a Lt making 30 more hrs of ot pass the promotion. Especially if youre close to retirement and Sat/sun rdo. I should have stayed a Lt. Look people will say you can get out of the game if you want but good luck. Under this regime they will keep you hostage on patrol unless youre a made man, forget a hook or crane that no longer works. Capts rank is for longevity however the problem is its not as easy as it used to be and finding a gig is hard, they wont let you out. As a Capt youre treated worse than a PPO and scrutinized to the max. 20 is plenty coming from someone who wanted to do 25-30.

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 This is pretty much spot on. being an xo is hell. You have to be there to really understand it.

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 I will echo this too. I knew being an executive had its negatives but i didnt think it would be this bad. My family of non cops cant understand how you can go from Sat/Sun off to Mon/Thur off with 20 years on lol. 

Truthseeker wrote:

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Comparing lt rank to captain by saying as a lt you can make more isnt really a fair comparison. Its a true statement with a big caveat. Youre still working a tremendous amount of hours to make up that gap. So qol sucks as xo but Id argue 60 months overtime a month can suck just as well. In the end each rank as a unique set of positive and negatives that will benefit some while being detrimental to others. I dont defend being an executive vs staying as a lt. I just try to not lean one way or the other bc ppl read these forums to get the facts on whether a rank will work for them. Bashing either decision really does no service to them.

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 Not bashing just telling ppl what I wish someone would have told me. Lt with ot in a gig is the way to go. If youre a Lt on patrol  then yes take the promotion. 

brooklynbacon wrote:

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Tommy Salami wrote:

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Leslie wrote:

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If youre in a good spot as a Lt making 30 more hrs of ot pass the promotion. Especially if youre close to retirement and Sat/sun rdo. I should have stayed a Lt. Look people will say you can get out of the game if you want but good luck. Under this regime they will keep you hostage on patrol unless youre a made man, forget a hook or crane that no longer works. Capts rank is for longevity however the problem is its not as easy as it used to be and finding a gig is hard, they wont let you out. As a Capt youre treated worse than a PPO and scrutinized to the max. 20 is plenty coming from someone who wanted to do 25-30.

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 This is pretty much spot on. being an xo is hell. You have to be there to really understand it.

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 I will echo this too. I knew being an executive had its negatives but i didnt think it would be this bad. My family of non cops cant understand how you can go from Sat/Sun off to Mon/Thur off with 20 years on lol. 

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 the treatment of young execs will not get any better any time soon. I can see that even execs with TOJ will be treated like shit.  The term more with less was coined during Bloomberg administration but it wasnt really used back then. Nowadays they are really squeezing all the juices across all ranks. 

Time on the job means nothing as a Capt.

The new XO with 25 years on gets treated the same as the new XO with 13 on the job.