Thats another way to fight the question, hey never specify if the vehicle is over $100. Honestly, with the question saying "most correct" they can rebuttle with that unfortunately, but what the question itself is asking can also be fought. There is more then one way to fight this question.
Agfynest, what do you mean by "deleted questions" ?
TenFour16 said
Apr 8, 2017
I could be wrong actually. The choice said the car was worth 10K I believe. Womp womp. Still ways to fight it though, in regards to what exactly they are asking.
bookworm said
Apr 8, 2017
TenFour16 wrote:
I could be wrong actually. The choice said the car was worth 10K I believe. Womp womp. Still ways to fight it though, in regards to what exactly they are asking.
No never said that. Only said make model.... oh but wait.... did it say the year??? this is retarded!
UrinalFly said
Apr 8, 2017
Actually they specified that the car was worth 10K... but I still prorested that question.
bookworm said
Apr 8, 2017
The only thing we can fight with that is them not saying which one has concurrent jurisdiction as opposed to just family offense.
fighten0h said
Apr 8, 2017
Anyone get the mayors executive order question wrong ? If I remember correctly the answer I saw was inspector general and comish of inspections
Artiemac said
Apr 8, 2017
Dude it said which one is a family offense .. had nothing at all to do with concurrent jurisdictions.. look at the list of family offenses in 208 36 .. just because an incident has to do with two family members doesn't make it a family list . Refer to the list " had a arms"
bookworm said
Apr 8, 2017
Family Offense question is not going to be a toss out. Check out the definition for family offense.
Can someone post the updated answer key again please. Thank you
TenFour16 said
Apr 8, 2017
They locked us into 208-36, Where in 208-36 does it say that a broken bone is SPI ?
Forget the rest of the Patrol Guide, we were locked into 208-36. As per the penal law a broken arm is NOT Serious Physical Injury. Its Assault 2 for the cousins.
The question is asking for MOST correct, not THE correct answer. Although the question is locking us into a certain procedure, THE CHOICES are basically Penal Law based choices. In order to answer this question CORRECTLY, we had to know the PENAL LAW also, not just 208-36.
Yes, I get it, INTEND to cause SPI with a dangerous instrument is Assault 1. But as per the Penal Law, a broken arm isn't SPI.
This question needs to be fought. There is too much of a gray area, no one should give fighting this one up.
NO ONE !
papote170 said
Apr 8, 2017
You guys are a bunch of Idiots !! ... why are u guys posting questions regarding your exam ??... how sure are you the make up exam takers are not taking the same exam as you did ??? .. until EVERYONE takes the exam,, discussions regarding questions should not happen on this forum !! ..
Sunrise said
Apr 8, 2017
Nicholasjames65 wrote:
Can someone post the updated answer key again please. Thank you
I think I remember like three questions and that's it. You guys hold on to this for dear life I see.
BlastLivesMatter said
Apr 9, 2017
For the question that the answer is level 1 use of force because the guy got taken down and then received stitches. According to this chart it says Take Down is level 1 as an example but it also says Any injury resulting in Sutures (stitches) or requires hospital treatment is a SUB PI but any SUB PI is a Level 2 level use of force. can anyone elaborate?
-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Sunday 9th of April 2017 02:00:04 AM
For the question that the answer is level 1 use of force because the guy got taken down and then received stitches. According to this chart it says Take Down is level 1 as an example but it also says Any injury resulting in Sutures (stitches) or requires hospital treatment is a SUB PI. and any SUB PI is a Level 2. can anyone elaborate?
level 1 force and PI>>> immediate supervisor
level 1 force and Sub PI>>> CO/Duty Capt
level 1 force and Serious PI>>> IAB
NauseousPBBN said
Apr 9, 2017
Were there two levels of force questions? I thought there was one of a women breaking her ankle
BlastLivesMatter said
Apr 9, 2017
NauseousPBBN wrote:
Were there two levels of force questions? I thought there was one of a women breaking her ankle
This was the 2nd.
Pass1234 said
Apr 9, 2017
I believe the question asked what level of force was used and who investigates it so it's level one use of force because of the takedown and the commanding officer investigate it because of the stitches
bookworm said
Apr 9, 2017
doowee58 wrote:
BlastLivesMatter wrote:
For the question that the answer is level 1 use of force because the guy got taken down and then received stitches. According to this chart it says Take Down is level 1 as an example but it also says Any injury resulting in Sutures (stitches) or requires hospital treatment is a SUB PI. and any SUB PI is a Level 2. can anyone elaborate?
level 1 force and PI>>> immediate supervisor
level 1 force and Sub PI>>> CO/Duty Capt
level 1 force and Serious PI>>> IAB
My protest for this is the "or" in between level of force and type of injury. I picked level one and immediate supervisor takes over and the proposed answer was level 1 co/duty investigates. The or would mean to me that either or so if its a certain injury or a particular use of force, then that supervisor investigates. Now it's not in this picture but if you turn to the actual guide and look at the additional data statement the chart they have there says co/duty captain and borough investigations, yet this chart says otherwise. I would use the chart in the guide against them. That's a conflict in the procedure cause then it would mean both need to investigate yet the answer didn't have any mention of borough investigations just co/duty captain. An interim order needs to be done to correct that. print out the patrol guide procedure the chart I'm talking about in the additional data section and bring that to the protest.
doowee58 said
Apr 9, 2017
Bookworm>>> forget this chart... be guided by actual PG.... PG TELLS YOU level 1 forced used BUT caused SUB PI ??? CO/duty capt investigates
bookworm said
Apr 9, 2017
doowee58 wrote:
Bookworm>>> forget this chart... be guided by actual PG.... PG TELLS YOU level 1 forced used BUT caused SUB PI ??? CO/duty capt investigates
You did not read what I wrote underneath I said use the pg chart to fight the question read what I wrote.
Aqfyn3st said
Apr 9, 2017
1472 is the new number I am hearing with the passers. If that's true long ass list. Very bottom heavy.
TenFour16 said
Apr 9, 2017
How did that number change so fast without the completed submissions of protests ?
bookworm said
Apr 9, 2017
I'm not believing that no way! Protest session is not even over!!
BlastLivesMatter said
Apr 9, 2017
Aqfyn3st wrote:
1472 is the new number I am hearing with the passers. If that's true long ass list. Very bottom heavy.
Fake News
Queens Finest said
Apr 9, 2017
I highly doubt that is true. Like I've previously posted, I was the one who sent the original FOIL request in. The number was 1182 as of March 24. That was straight from DCAS. I would take any conflicting information very lightly.
TenFour16 said
Apr 9, 2017
Can anyone else confirm if these "changes" were already added into our answer keys at the PRS, such as the double answers ?
Gk06 said
Apr 9, 2017
Sunrise wrote:
Nicholasjames65 wrote:
Can someone post the updated answer key again please. Thank you
Updated??? Looks the same to me
TenFour16 said
Apr 9, 2017
For the people who lurk on the board and don't post, and for those who want a way to protest a question thats a CLEAR double answer or throwout, here is one, as I mentioned before.
The Apprehension Plan question (the question which had the answer as "Debrief civilians who have sustained minor injuries") was MESSED UP.
Even if they use the "which step comes first" excuse, they will still be wrong.
As PER 213-12,
the NOTE under Step 12 states. "Where possible, uniformed member and potential civilian witnesses who have sustained minor injuries should be immediately debriefed BY A RESPONDING SUPERVISOR *OR* DETECTIVE before leaving the scene for treatment."
Step 16 states: Establish a CommandPost (marked as a wrong answer as per DCAS.)
If the MOST CORRECT answer is what is being looked for, the MOST CORRECT answer should be Establish A Command Post. It is a better choice because the note under Step 12 states civilian witnesses who have sustained minor injuries should be immediately debriefed BY A RESPONDING SUPERVISOR *OR* DETECTIVE.The Supervisor DOES NOT HAVE TO debrief the civilian who has sustained injuries, the Detective can do it ALSO, however IT IS ONLY THE PATROL SUPERVISOR WHO CAN ESTABLISH A COMMAND POST. "ESTABLISH A COMMAND POST" is the better choice and is the OVERALL answer that is MOST CORRECT.
Send in your protests. Lets not give them this one.
-- Edited by TenFour16 on Sunday 9th of April 2017 09:39:38 PM
1012by1 said
Apr 9, 2017
Apprehension plan had an answer that said to set up an investigative command post. Don't waste your time with that one.
Elise1 said
Apr 9, 2017
Had answer set up command post not investigative command wat are you talking about
TenFour16 said
Apr 9, 2017
Investigative Command Post ?
Definitely not on that question. I remember seeing it on the computer screen. Said Establish a Command Post.
making dcas great again said
Apr 9, 2017
I want to know if anyone that attended the protest section had the map question wrong ? or did they throw out that question
Bo5 said
Apr 10, 2017
I got the map question wrong
1012by1 said
Apr 10, 2017
step 37a, establish an investigative command post....that was the incorrect choice. it's a duty of db duty captain
100questions said
Apr 10, 2017
making dcas great again wrote:
I want to know if anyone that attended the protest section had the map question wrong ? or did they throw out that question
I got the map question wrong as well.
Thebirds said
Apr 10, 2017
lol @ people still arguing that a broken arm isn't SPI. Def can spot the C house skirts
Elise1 said
Apr 10, 2017
1012by1 what are you talking about the choice they had for apprehension question was establish command post. The choice didn't have investigative command post.
Elise1 said
Apr 10, 2017
That's whole point of a protest if you lose at least you made your point instead of giving up. Even if u need that 1 point
A10shun said
Apr 10, 2017
Any idea as to when this list is coming out and when they will start promoting off of it?
Sunrise said
Apr 10, 2017
The list usually comes out about 6months after the date of the exam.
100questions said
Apr 10, 2017
A10shun wrote:
Any idea as to when this list is coming out and when they will start promoting off of it?
If you want to go by the answer they gave at the protest session, they said your official score will not be given until 5 - 11 months after the test
DeezNutz said
Apr 10, 2017
I went to my protest today and DeezNutz made the cut. I walked in and out so I'm not sure the ones I got wrong. Good luck to all.
Sunrise said
Apr 10, 2017
DeezNutz wrote:
I went to my protest today and DeezNutz made the cut. I walked in and out so I'm not sure the ones I got wrong. Good luck to all.
Congrats!
DeezNutz said
Apr 10, 2017
Sunrise wrote:
DeezNutz wrote:
I went to my protest today and DeezNutz made the cut. I walked in and out so I'm not sure the ones I got wrong. Good luck to all.
Congrats!
Thank you
Chico Escuela said
Apr 10, 2017
End is near. Good luck to all.
BlastLivesMatter said
Apr 10, 2017
I got a 67. I changed 3 answers that I originally had correct after reviewing my answers 10 minutes before handing in the test and turns out I had them correct at first. I wont be able to get over this for a long time. Guess I learned the hard way to never change your first answer. I need a miracle at this point. Also on another note, I got the pick the "Most Answer" wrong. I guess they didn't throw it out. On the protest they have it asked as pick the "Most Correct answer." Don't let them fool you.
Also the DCAS workers told us to let ppl know to come in at 8am instead of 9am because it will take a long time to get everyone a computer in a timely matter. They don't want a massive line of ppl outside waiting.
-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Monday 10th of April 2017 08:07:48 PM
Artiemac said
Apr 10, 2017
Be careful with the answers you got wrong and look at every incorrect choice .. they screwed me out of an answer I know I put . I had to request they grade my scantron manually..
Two double answers on the inbasket .
I don't even care that I scored an 80 raw score at this point - I'm more concerned about prayingforapass - any update ?
Bo5 said
Apr 10, 2017
How do you request that they grade your scantron manually?
TenFour16 said
Apr 10, 2017
Does anyone remember what was the question which ended in "most" ?
Agfynest, what do you mean by "deleted questions" ?
No never said that. Only said make model.... oh but wait.... did it say the year??? this is retarded!
Family Offense question is not going to be a toss out. Check out the definition for family offense.
Forget the rest of the Patrol Guide, we were locked into 208-36. As per the penal law a broken arm is NOT Serious Physical Injury. Its Assault 2 for the cousins.
The question is asking for MOST correct, not THE correct answer. Although the question is locking us into a certain procedure, THE CHOICES are basically Penal Law based choices. In order to answer this question CORRECTLY, we had to know the PENAL LAW also, not just 208-36.
Yes, I get it, INTEND to cause SPI with a dangerous instrument is Assault 1. But as per the Penal Law, a broken arm isn't SPI.
This question needs to be fought. There is too much of a gray area, no one should give fighting this one up.
NO ONE !
For the question that the answer is level 1 use of force because the guy got taken down and then received stitches. According to this chart it says Take Down is level 1 as an example but it also says Any injury resulting in Sutures (stitches) or requires hospital treatment is a SUB PI but any SUB PI is a Level 2 level use of force. can anyone elaborate?
-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Sunday 9th of April 2017 02:00:04 AM
level 1 force and PI>>> immediate supervisor
level 1 force and Sub PI>>> CO/Duty Capt
level 1 force and Serious PI>>> IAB
This was the 2nd.
My protest for this is the "or" in between level of force and type of injury. I picked level one and immediate supervisor takes over and the proposed answer was level 1 co/duty investigates. The or would mean to me that either or so if its a certain injury or a particular use of force, then that supervisor investigates. Now it's not in this picture but if you turn to the actual guide and look at the additional data statement the chart they have there says co/duty captain and borough investigations, yet this chart says otherwise. I would use the chart in the guide against them. That's a conflict in the procedure cause then it would mean both need to investigate yet the answer didn't have any mention of borough investigations just co/duty captain. An interim order needs to be done to correct that. print out the patrol guide procedure the chart I'm talking about in the additional data section and bring that to the protest.
You did not read what I wrote underneath I said use the pg chart to fight the question read what I wrote.
Fake News
For the people who lurk on the board and don't post, and for those who want a way to protest a question thats a CLEAR double answer or throwout, here is one, as I mentioned before.
The Apprehension Plan question (the question which had the answer as "Debrief civilians who have sustained minor injuries") was MESSED UP.
Even if they use the "which step comes first" excuse, they will still be wrong.
As PER 213-12,
the NOTE under Step 12 states. "Where possible, uniformed member and potential civilian witnesses who have sustained minor injuries should be immediately debriefed BY A RESPONDING SUPERVISOR *OR* DETECTIVE before leaving the scene for treatment."
Step 16 states: Establish a Command Post (marked as a wrong answer as per DCAS.)
If the MOST CORRECT answer is what is being looked for, the MOST CORRECT answer should be Establish A Command Post. It is a better choice because the note under Step 12 states civilian witnesses who have sustained minor injuries should be immediately debriefed BY A RESPONDING SUPERVISOR *OR* DETECTIVE. The Supervisor DOES NOT HAVE TO debrief the civilian who has sustained injuries, the Detective can do it ALSO, however IT IS ONLY THE PATROL SUPERVISOR WHO CAN ESTABLISH A COMMAND POST. "ESTABLISH A COMMAND POST" is the better choice and is the OVERALL answer that is MOST CORRECT.
Send in your protests. Lets not give them this one.
-- Edited by TenFour16 on Sunday 9th of April 2017 09:39:38 PM
Definitely not on that question. I remember seeing it on the computer screen. Said Establish a Command Post.
I want to know if anyone that attended the protest section had the map question wrong ? or did they throw out that question
I got the map question wrong as well.
That's whole point of a protest if you lose at least you made your point instead of giving up. Even if u need that 1 point
If you want to go by the answer they gave at the protest session, they said your official score will not be given until 5 - 11 months after the test
Congrats!
Thank you
I got a 67. I changed 3 answers that I originally had correct after reviewing my answers 10 minutes before handing in the test and turns out I had them correct at first. I wont be able to get over this for a long time. Guess I learned the hard way to never change your first answer. I need a miracle at this point. Also on another note, I got the pick the "Most Answer" wrong. I guess they didn't throw it out. On the protest they have it asked as pick the "Most Correct answer." Don't let them fool you.
Also the DCAS workers told us to let ppl know to come in at 8am instead of 9am because it will take a long time to get everyone a computer in a timely matter. They don't want a massive line of ppl outside waiting.
-- Edited by BlastLivesMatter on Monday 10th of April 2017 08:07:48 PM
Two double answers on the inbasket .
I don't even care that I scored an 80 raw score at this point - I'm more concerned about prayingforapass - any update ?
What did it ask ?