You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.
I mean I just studied mikes packets and got an 85 on the sgt test. Every pg and ag procedure tested was in there somewhere. only thing that caught be off guard were the penal law questions
What about LT exam? Sgt exam was easier and I did way less work got high 70s
I didnt take the Lt exam, Ill let you know in another 3-4 years
HopeBoss said
Mar 24, 2023
tweezy wrote:
HopeBoss wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
DRPapi1983 wrote:
You have to put in the time. Study hard and you will see the results.
Even if I did double the work I still would not have passed because packets alone did not cover some of the test. In basket would have been great since I do great on that.
I mean I just studied mikes packets and got an 85 on the sgt test. Every pg and ag procedure tested was in there somewhere. only thing that caught be off guard were the penal law questions
Yeah, you cant get away with that studying for lieutenant or captain or prob any test now a days
Again they worked for me, I took the 2022 sgt exam which was fairly challenging
TransitCop said
Mar 24, 2023
You are on the wrong forum then. Talk to me once you pass LT exam doing packets only.
ChuckTaylor said
Mar 24, 2023
I didnt study at all. Fairly confident I wouldnt have passed even if I did, so Im glad I didnt. Ill probably never pass without an in-basket, that was the only reason why I passed sergeants. Oh well.
HopeBoss said
Mar 24, 2023
TransitCop wrote:
You are on the wrong forum then. Talk to me once you pass LT exam doing packets only.
We will see
Taketheday said
Mar 24, 2023
This exam was very hard but that being said you needed to study everything as well as the packets to pass. I got a 74 and I studied for a year. What helped me was making my own notes and hitting all the SGT/LT duties almost every day. And even then it was a hard exam. Just shows no matter which class you take you still need to do extra because these exam writers know what we all know from the classes and they will never give you exactly whats in these classes. Respect to anyone that did really well lol my brain still hurts.
-- Edited by Taketheday on Friday 24th of March 2023 06:27:21 PM
HopeBoss said
Mar 24, 2023
Taketheday wrote:
This exam was very hard but that being said you needed to study everything as well as the packets to pass. I got a 74 and I studied for a year. What helped me was making my own notes and hitting all the LT duties almost every day. And even then it was a hard exam. Just shows no matter which class you t take you still need to do extra because these exam writers know what we all know from the classes and they will never give you exactly whats in these classes. Respect to anyone that did really well lol my brain still hurts.
74 is a really good score from what Im hearing
JediMaster said
Mar 24, 2023
Negative
there are PLENTY OF PEOPLE TAKING MAKE UP EXAMS AFTER THE NORMAL PROTEST SESSION!!
make up exams do their Own protest sessions!
dont talk about the EXAMS AT ALL.
you protest once your at the session.
theres no brain storming on a public forum.
you are allowed to talk and walk around and huddle up AT THE PROTEST SESSION!
dont say $Hit about the exams on here AT ALL !
you signed an agreement with DCAS.
dont get G015 for talking about the exam dummy
-- Edited by JediMaster on Friday 24th of March 2023 05:26:15 PM
100questions said
Mar 24, 2023
Shut up
No1isbetter said
Mar 24, 2023
If a LT I know made the Captain list scoring a 59, then theres no doubt on my mind 60 is good for the list. Wish every one on the cusp the most luck.
Copper said
Mar 24, 2023
Every Sgt wants to be a Lt but not every Lt. wants to be a Captain. There will be a curve and throw outs but I do not think they will curve it that much but we shall see..
3testwonder said
Mar 24, 2023
What score do you believe is safe ?
brooklynbacon said
Mar 24, 2023
3testwonder wrote:
What score do you believe is safe ?
65
Copper said
Mar 24, 2023
hearing day 2 exam was as hard as day 1
lovemike said
Mar 24, 2023
2017 sgts exam was significantly easier. Free 20 points for the in basket, ground ball questions etc. We all have to get used to new testing styles and stop making excuses. I am sure new testing styles will bring out the best supervisors! Fidelis ad mortem!
-- Edited by lovemike on Friday 24th of March 2023 07:15:57 PM
TenFour16 said
Mar 24, 2023
Heard its the same test.
SMFH.
SATCOM said
Mar 24, 2023
72 lucky Friday. Did not open the book after the Vucinaj debacle of 2015. This was not easy but nowhere near as screwed up as the 2015.
tweezy said
Mar 24, 2023
TenFour16 wrote:
Heard its the same test.
SMFH.
It wasnt
TransitCop said
Mar 24, 2023
lovemike wrote:
2017 sgts exam was significantly easier. Free 20 points for the in basket, ground ball questions etc. We all have to get used to new testing styles and stop making excuses. I am sure new testing styles will bring out the best supervisors! Fidelis ad mortem!
-- Edited by lovemike on Friday 24th of March 2023 07:15:57 PM
Im sure remembering how many could be off on IVD or some other uselessness makes you a better resource manager. Let be real here.
crossingmyfingers said
Mar 24, 2023
TransitCop wrote:
lovemike wrote:
2017 sgts exam was significantly easier. Free 20 points for the in basket, ground ball questions etc. We all have to get used to new testing styles and stop making excuses. I am sure new testing styles will bring out the best supervisors! Fidelis ad mortem!
-- Edited by lovemike on Friday 24th of March 2023 07:15:57 PM
Im sure remembering how many could be off on IVD or some other uselessness makes you a better resource manager. Let be real here.
Sounds like youre gonna be a shitty ops coordinator lol
ChuckTaylor said
Mar 24, 2023
Copper wrote:
hearing day 2 exam was as hard as day 1
It better have been
TransitCop said
Mar 24, 2023
crossingmyfingers wrote:
TransitCop wrote:
lovemike wrote:
2017 sgts exam was significantly easier. Free 20 points for the in basket, ground ball questions etc. We all have to get used to new testing styles and stop making excuses. I am sure new testing styles will bring out the best supervisors! Fidelis ad mortem!
-- Edited by lovemike on Friday 24th of March 2023 07:15:57 PM
Im sure remembering how many could be off on IVD or some other uselessness makes you a better resource manager. Let be real here.
Sounds like youre gonna be a shitty ops coordinator lol
Definitely deny your 28s.
TransitCop said
Mar 24, 2023
ChuckTaylor wrote:
Copper wrote:
hearing day 2 exam was as hard as day 1
It better have been
I spoke with my partner today who got high 80s and he basically had the same questions on the test as I did yesterday so thats that for it being a different exam.
Tunit said
Mar 24, 2023
I studied 5 days a week, about 3-4 hrs a day, since the end of August. Id listen to audio for 2 hrs a day on top of that, just driving to and from work. Consistently scored in the 80s w rising star questions and 90s-100 on the key questions. Day 2, 72. Hard test. Best of luck to all.
FrickandFrack said
Mar 24, 2023
There was no passing score back in the days. If they needed 50 sgts the bottom number on that 50 became the passing score. So yes you had lts that properly scored in the 40's and 50's.
brooklynbacon said
Mar 24, 2023
FrickandFrack wrote:
There was no passing score back in the days. If they needed 50 sgts the bottom number on that 50 became the passing score. So yes you had lts that properly scored in the 40's and 50's.
False. That happened with the Sgt lists. Never with the Lts list. The Lt list is the only list people have died on in the last 20 years.
TenFour16 said
Mar 24, 2023
Test was the same confirmed. Dont believe anyone saying they got a different variation. Day 2 test takers will try and defend their case to make it seem like they were legitimate.
Listen, if I was day 2, I would get answers also so im not upset. But it was the same exam. Next time, study enough to get a 90 and not have to worry about this nonsense. Be upset at DCAS and the job for allowing this nonsense.
Ucon4real said
Mar 24, 2023
Definitely an advantage. Even with an extra point or two, just knowing about those odd procedures to focus on. That could be the 2 points that leads to passing.
Send Division said
Mar 24, 2023
SATCOM wrote:
72 lucky Friday. Did not open the book after the Vucinaj debacle of 2015. This was not easy but nowhere near as screwed up as the 2015.
you didnt study and got a 72 on this exam? I find that extremely hard to believe.
90z said
Mar 24, 2023
Great post. THIS is how you know it was a challenging exam. You provided context of your studying efforts and results. Good job and be proud of your score since it was not easy to earn.
90z said
Mar 24, 2023
Tunit wrote:
I studied 5 days a week, about 3-4 hrs a day, since the end of August. Id listen to audio for 2 hrs a day on top of that, just driving to and from work. Consistently scored in the 80s w rising star questions and 90s-100 on the key questions. Day 2, 72. Hard test. Best of luck to all.
Great post. THIS is how you know it was a challenging exam. You provided context of your studying efforts and results. Good job and be proud of your score since it was not easy to earn.
BrooklynNorth75 said
Mar 25, 2023
You shouldnt have to study for a year to score an 84 on an Nypd promotion exam. Exam was horse shit. Ill never take another test again
GangGreenMets said
Mar 25, 2023
BrooklynNorth75 wrote:
You shouldnt have to study for a year to score an 84 on an Nypd promotion exam. Exam was horse shit. Ill never take another test again
Ill be honest, I did horribly. It wasnt horse shit but it was difficult, in a fair way. Everyone I know who passed really hit the books hard and gave 100%. Me however? not so much. This will also be my last test, I just dont have the dedication to study like I used to. Congratulations to all that passed!
gmen18 said
Mar 25, 2023
studied my ass off, got in the 50s, very discouraging, whats worse is people DM the classes saying how terrific and spot on they did, we all know scoring well on this test was rare, classes simply weren't spot on this time, it is what it is, no ones fault but our own, its just annoying seeing classes brag how they were spot on when majority of their students bombed it.
NauseousPBBN said
Mar 25, 2023
You shouldn't be studying for a year and be happy with just because you passed, i think that's the point the poster above was trying to make.
Someone with a family who squeezed in 3-4 hours day should at very minimum have a passing grade.
crossingmyfingers said
Mar 25, 2023
gmen18 wrote:
studied my ass off, got in the 50s, very discouraging, whats worse is people DM the classes saying how terrific and spot on they did, we all know scoring well on this test was rare, classes simply weren't spot on this time, it is what it is, no ones fault but our own, its just annoying seeing classes brag how they were spot on when majority of their students bombed it.
Can you give context when You say study my ass off?
BrooklynNorth75 said
Mar 25, 2023
You didnt give it 100 percent so you really cant say if it was horse shit or not
BrooklynNorth75 said
Mar 25, 2023
NauseousPBBN wrote:
You shouldn't be studying for a year and be happy with just because you passed, i think that's the point the poster above was trying to make.
Someone with a family who squeezed in 3-4 hours day should at very minimum have a passing grade.
Exactly. People sacrifice a lot for these exams. You shouldnt feel railroaded. The patrol guide has a lot of info but most of it is straight forward. It shouldnt feel like the test makers are writing the test with intention of you to fail. People who would be great supervisors never make it to the ranks cause of this kind of stuff. I scored high 80s on the Sgt exam and squeak by? i feel for the guys who put in the work and missed by a few points. Horrible job by dcas and the job.
VetteCop said
Mar 25, 2023
what in the f*** did I just sit through.. I feel like I was just part of a continuous event question... congrats to those who passed!
3testwonder said
Mar 25, 2023
Dr . Papi you thinking a mixture of curve and throwouts?
TicketoutofNarco said
Mar 25, 2023
Low 70s - What do you think of the possibility of dying on the list? Im anticipating a bunch of throw-outs from calculations. That test was insane man.
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Mar 25, 2023
3testwonder wrote:
Dr . Papi you thinking a mixture of curve and throwouts?
If you are asking for dr.papis advice or opinion, then I know for sure that you failed the exam.
3testwonder said
Mar 25, 2023
So far people are saying about 10-15 throwouts
TransitCop said
Mar 25, 2023
3testwonder wrote:
So far people are saying about 10-15 throwouts
Who are these people you speak of?
tweezy said
Mar 25, 2023
3testwonder wrote:
So far people are saying about 10-15 throwouts
Heard like 1 or 2 10-15 sounds a little crazy
3testwonder said
Mar 25, 2023
People I know who are saying they know of questions that were double answers and some were even incorrectly written. Also from past history from the Captain and previous Sgt. Exam. The 2017 sgt exam has people with raw score of 59 go to a 72
tweezy said
Mar 25, 2023
3testwonder wrote:
People I know who are saying they know of questions that were double answers and some were even incorrectly written. Also from past history from the Captain and previous Sgt. Exam. The 2017 sgt exam has people with raw score of 59 go to a 72
Oh so youre just guessing.. 10-4
NauseousPBBN said
Mar 25, 2023
Double answers/throwouts has nothing to do with curve. Don't confuse the two.
Yes ppl on 2017 exam went from 58 to passing but that was a combination of throwouts and curve.
TenFour16 said
Mar 25, 2023
250 passers rumor true ?
tweezy said
Mar 25, 2023
TenFour16 wrote:
250 passers rumor true ?
Def not. no way of knowing that, and if 700 people took the captain exam which was more fed up test than this exam and 220 passed raw theres no way 250 out of 2500 passed only.. fake news bro
I didnt take the Lt exam, Ill let you know in another 3-4 years
Again they worked for me, I took the 2022 sgt exam which was fairly challenging
We will see
This exam was very hard but that being said you needed to study everything as well as the packets to pass. I got a 74 and I studied for a year. What helped me was making my own notes and hitting all the SGT/LT duties almost every day. And even then it was a hard exam. Just shows no matter which class you take you still need to do extra because these exam writers know what we all know from the classes and they will never give you exactly whats in these classes. Respect to anyone that did really well lol my brain still hurts.
-- Edited by Taketheday on Friday 24th of March 2023 06:27:21 PM
74 is a really good score from what Im hearing
Negative
there are PLENTY OF PEOPLE TAKING MAKE UP EXAMS AFTER THE NORMAL PROTEST SESSION!!
make up exams do their Own protest sessions!
dont talk about the EXAMS AT ALL.
you protest once your at the session.
theres no brain storming on a public forum.
you are allowed to talk and walk around and huddle up AT THE PROTEST SESSION!
dont say $Hit about the exams on here AT ALL !
you signed an agreement with DCAS.
dont get G015 for talking about the exam dummy
-- Edited by JediMaster on Friday 24th of March 2023 05:26:15 PM
Every Sgt wants to be a Lt but not every Lt. wants to be a Captain. There will be a curve and throw outs but I do not think they will curve it that much but we shall see..
65
2017 sgts exam was significantly easier. Free 20 points for the in basket, ground ball questions etc. We all have to get used to new testing styles and stop making excuses. I am sure new testing styles will bring out the best supervisors! Fidelis ad mortem!
-- Edited by lovemike on Friday 24th of March 2023 07:15:57 PM
SMFH.
It wasnt
Im sure remembering how many could be off on IVD or some other uselessness makes you a better resource manager. Let be real here.
Sounds like youre gonna be a shitty ops coordinator lol
It better have been
Definitely deny your 28s.
I spoke with my partner today who got high 80s and he basically had the same questions on the test as I did yesterday so thats that for it being a different exam.
There was no passing score back in the days. If they needed 50 sgts the bottom number on that 50 became the passing score. So yes you had lts that properly scored in the 40's and 50's.
False. That happened with the Sgt lists. Never with the Lts list. The Lt list is the only list people have died on in the last 20 years.
Listen, if I was day 2, I would get answers also so im not upset. But it was the same exam. Next time, study enough to get a 90 and not have to worry about this nonsense. Be upset at DCAS and the job for allowing this nonsense.
you didnt study and got a 72 on this exam? I find that extremely hard to believe.
Great post. THIS is how you know it was a challenging exam. You provided context of your studying efforts and results. Good job and be proud of your score since it was not easy to earn.
Great post. THIS is how you know it was a challenging exam. You provided context of your studying efforts and results. Good job and be proud of your score since it was not easy to earn.
Ill be honest, I did horribly. It wasnt horse shit but it was difficult, in a fair way. Everyone I know who passed really hit the books hard and gave 100%. Me however? not so much. This will also be my last test, I just dont have the dedication to study like I used to. Congratulations to all that passed!
Someone with a family who squeezed in 3-4 hours day should at very minimum have a passing grade.
Can you give context when You say study my ass off?
You didnt give it 100 percent so you really cant say if it was horse shit or not
Exactly. People sacrifice a lot for these exams. You shouldnt feel railroaded. The patrol guide has a lot of info but most of it is straight forward. It shouldnt feel like the test makers are writing the test with intention of you to fail. People who would be great supervisors never make it to the ranks cause of this kind of stuff. I scored high 80s on the Sgt exam and squeak by? i feel for the guys who put in the work and missed by a few points. Horrible job by dcas and the job.
If you are asking for dr.papis advice or opinion, then I know for sure that you failed the exam.
Who are these people you speak of?
Heard like 1 or 2 10-15 sounds a little crazy
Oh so youre just guessing.. 10-4
Yes ppl on 2017 exam went from 58 to passing but that was a combination of throwouts and curve.
Def not. no way of knowing that, and if 700 people took the captain exam which was more fed up test than this exam and 220 passed raw theres no way 250 out of 2500 passed only.. fake news bro