Rising Star for the NYPD Sergeant, Lieutenant, and Captain Exam

APRIL 2014 !!!!!!!!!!

TheJobLovesYou said
Mar 27, 2014

Aparos list was not adjusted, his list # was 1040 or in that range I believe

kevin20872 said
Mar 28, 2014

just a question how long until the activated new list im very very scare no one wants to talk about it 1200 is looking to july or august. the 1300 oct November. in oct the 2013 test ill have a year i dont one to scare no body but im getting worried/

ManHands said
Mar 28, 2014

Before I post this I want to say that I never believed the 2011 list would be cut, and I still don't, but I am worried and I'll explain why.

When these trolls use to post that they had info on the list being cut it was laughable because it was too early to predict that. It made no sense, and it rarely happens. On top of that, we have seen in the past that exam list have been held for a year while a current list was exhausted. With that being said...

A while back there was a pretty accurate calculation someone did here that basically said that if there was a BMOC every month, at the current rate they are promoting, it would be 46 each month. Taking that number when that post was made would put the end of this list around March-April, about a year after the 2013 list would come out (because it's usually 6 months after the test.) This further confirmed my belief that the 2011 list was good! Because it was just a year...

BUT NOW...at this rate, this list seems to be extending into May, possibly even June of 2015. Now I am not saying its going to be cut, but has anyone seen a list continue a year after another list has been established?

Again, this is assuming this list comes out in April, which I think it will.

If I am mistaken in any of these facts, please let me know, I am just sharing my thoughts.

kevin20872 said
Mar 28, 2014

the problem with us cops is that we dont learn to accept facts. few of us are worried but not ones has the ball to say it. if htey dont put a big class this list have a bigg chance of getting cut. lets see option because i dont like the way is going. the 1300 maybe by octobre nov dec. the problem is that 2013 should be comming out hopefully it doesnt

ManHands said
Mar 28, 2014

I passed the 13 exam, but I am pulling for the 11 list as well because I have a lot of buddies at the tail end, and it's not right if they cut it.

HOWEVER, you are right Kevin...cops refused to accept anything that might warp their perfect reality, and at this rate this list is crawling. I am still believing all we be made, but I am also being realistic.

63ASAP said
Mar 28, 2014

The 2009 test was established but no one was promoted until the 2008 list was complete. The clock doesn't start until the first promotion. Will this be cut? No one knows. But it still has 2 years to go before it expires, and if that's the case everyone will get made. Speculation will only drive you guys nuts.

ManHands said
Mar 28, 2014

Clock doesn't start until the first promotion? What does that mean? Obviously we are counting from the time the first class got promoted off the 11 list.

Yes, you're right, it still has 2 years to go, and yes...in 2009 the list was established but no one promoted...I stated all this...but my "wondering" was, was any list held for over a year until the last list was exhausted? 2009 was held close to a year if I am not mistaken. I am just saying I can't see them holding the 13 list for OVER A YEAR and the 11 list seems to be going over that, at this rate. And just because it has 2 years to go does not mean that it HAS TO BE ON FOR TWO MORE YEARS.

I think it's important for those at the end of the 11 list to consider possibilities. I know some of my buddies are actually passing up transfers because they want to ride it out until they get made. Thinking about different possibilities helps people plan. Maybe your wanting to get promoted to get out of where you are and your not applying because you are waiting to get made....maybe you should be making moves...get what I am saying?

You are right about one thing....IT IS ALL SPECULATION.

I still feel the 11 list will get made.

63ASAP said
Mar 28, 2014

I agree, nothing wrong with planning and anticipating every possible outcome. I'm just saying that based on history, it's likely the list will run its course. Maybe I didn't express it well. I didn't mean that it will definitely go the entire 4 years. I basically meant to say if the list isn't cut, everyone will definitely be made well before expiration, and history backs up the notion that '13 exam promotions won't begin until '11 is done, even after establishment of the list. Of course, it can be cut and all this will be moot. I just wanted to give some reassurances that the scale is more in favor of list exhaustion than it is the alternative.

Mangas said
Mar 28, 2014

I agree but the only this that people are not touching on is that April is the end of the second year to this list. As per dcas a list is good for no less than one year no more than 4 years. That being said after the one year mark the department gets a list extention for a one year period. This April is the end of the list extention. Something to think about.

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spartan85 said
Mar 28, 2014

Getting close to the end of the fiscal year. The new budgets starts in July and I think you will see big classes from July until December.

Wanabmade said
Mar 28, 2014

Brat is probably shaking her head laughing at this. She said multiple times this list is fine and not getting cut! She's in the know and 100% on basically everything she posts. Relax guys, our time will come. Stay safe and keep up with your activity lol

queensfinest said
Mar 28, 2014

Stop crying ! Have some patients

letsssss gooooo said
Mar 28, 2014

Lol brat we love you...

63ASAP said
Mar 28, 2014

Wanabmade wrote:
Brat is probably shaking her head laughing at this. She said multiple times this list is fine and not getting cut! She's in the know and 100% on basically everything she posts. Relax guys, our time will come. Stay safe and keep up with your activity lol

Actually, if I recall correctly, she once said she didn't know, and that no one really does.

Good point made by Mangas, though. If it's not cut by next month it's most likely good for another year, which may be all that is needed to exhaust it.

Semp1 said
Mar 28, 2014

List is not getting cut. SMH. April is the actual 24th month active. Next month, this month, last month has nothing to do with list cuts. Matter of fact the whole conversation is irrelevant. This is why this forum is so dead. People don't want to waste their time any more coming here. How is this even a topic still?

-- Edited by Semp1 on Friday 28th of March 2014 06:32:18 PM

letsssss gooooo said
Mar 28, 2014

That's is true @semp. That's why the forum has died. It's not about being dead etc. I just would like to know in anyone's opinion how the next class will look like. Or the class after that. I know a new budget is coming out etc. just asking... Later guys

Semp1 said
Mar 28, 2014

letsssss gooooo wrote:
That's is true @semp. That's why the forum has died. It's not about being dead etc. I just would like to know in anyone's opinion how the next class will look like. Or the class after that. I know a new budget is coming out etc. just asking... Later guys

No one knows how the next class will look. Including Emd/Personnel. They are unaware until a week before.

letsssss gooooo said
Mar 28, 2014

@semp thank you much.

Mattinglyfan said
Mar 30, 2014

I'm sure we are all fine... lets just hope for some big classes and very minimal down months!!

Wanabmade said
Apr 1, 2014

From looking at the list for this bmoc and correct me if I'm wrong..
10 passovers
1004, 1010, 1014, 1024, 1025, 1030, 1031, 1036, 1041, 1042
Picked up 5 numbers
215-Kantharia
314- Torres
712- Donnella
927- Bagonyi
975- Ryan

List starts from 1003 and seems to end with 1046 but:
List numbers 1062- Walker, 1104- Aparo, and 1457- Barnes
Are on the list.

TheJobLovesYou said
Apr 1, 2014

Some of those higher list numbers are adjusted for physical fitness points or other things and were not reflected on the list shown on this forum.

Rail1980 said
Apr 1, 2014

That's not true cause my list was updated when they gave me my pt points from run. They adjusted my score by 50 names. Someone in the 1400's. That's some serious ex points

TheJobLovesYou said
Apr 1, 2014

Mine was adjusted by a couple of names and is reflected on the list here, Aparos list # was dropped from 1104 to in the 1040's, they did not calculate his physical fitness points.

Wanabmade said
Apr 2, 2014

Check the list with the finest for this class. It's all there.. I'm wondering if the list reached 1046 or 1062

Wanabmade said
Apr 2, 2014

Either way, I bet the next class brings us into the 1100's

TheJobLovesYou said
Apr 2, 2014

I hope so, they need to get this list moving. I'm in the 148x's

letsssss gooooo said
Apr 2, 2014

@thejob same boat here...

Shotsfired said
Apr 2, 2014

I wonder when someone in the 1400s will get made..

Semp1 said
Apr 2, 2014

My guess is Nov. 1400's will be made by Nov/Dec the absolute latest.

Iwearpumas said
Apr 2, 2014

I would hate to get promoted and be miserable as a Sgt.

sgt2be said
Apr 2, 2014

Iwearpumas wrote:
I would hate to get promoted and be miserable as a Sgt.

gotta tell you. I tell this to my cops all the time! i wouldnt give up the rank for any cop position out there. The rank aint always fun, but hell its still better then being a cop.

ManHands said
Apr 3, 2014

Semp1 wrote:
My guess is Nov. 1400's will be made by Nov/Dec the absolute latest.

That might have been a good estimate 6 months ago, but at this rate, not a chance in hell that would be the latest.

That would actually be the EARLIEST right now. You're not going to see this list hit 1400 anytime before Nov, and I would not be surprised if Jan 2015 we are still in the 1400's. I don't think people grasp how truly and dangerously slow this list is moving.

Wanabmade said
Apr 3, 2014

Dangerously slow in the sense that people growing more impatient. If promotions continue at this current rate further into the year then yea, scratch your head and say wtf..otherwise, I don't see any irregularities in promotion rate.

AirborneGuy said
Apr 3, 2014

sgt2be wrote:
Iwearpumas wrote:
I would hate to get promoted and be miserable as a Sgt.
gotta tell you. I tell this to my cops all the time! i wouldnt give up the rank for any cop position out there. The rank aint always fun, but hell its still better then being a cop.

I keep trying to tell my old partner this. He has a pretty sweet gig in the medical division with a bunch of OT, but Sgt still trumps that, even on patrol. I was the one saying what he is now for 10 years, I know how badly I messed up by waiting so long to do this. Two years in, I wouldmy trade it for anything.

ChickenDinner said
Apr 3, 2014

queensfinest wrote:
Stop crying ! Have some patients

patients? Lol...somebody got the grammar question wrong.

queensfinest said
Apr 3, 2014

lol no just tyPed fast on my phone.now stop your crying and have some PATIENCE

Semp1 said
Apr 3, 2014

ManHands wrote:
Semp1 wrote:
My guess is Nov. 1400's will be made by Nov/Dec the absolute latest.
That might have been a good estimate 6 months ago, but at this rate, not a chance in hell that would be the latest.
That would actually be the EARLIEST right now. You're not going to see this list hit 1400 anytime before Nov, and I would not be surprised if Jan 2015 we are still in the 1400's. I don't think people grasp how truly and dangerously slow this list is moving.

I see nothing dangerous about how it's moving. I actually don't think it's slow moving at all. How fast you want a list with 1600+ names to move? They've promoted over 1000 in 24 months. It will continue to move at the regular average pace it has since before I'm sure you or I were on this job. And I'm sticking with Nov/Dec. we shall see.

-- Edited by Semp1 on Thursday 3rd of April 2014 03:40:05 PM

-- Edited by Semp1 on Thursday 3rd of April 2014 04:07:03 PM

queensfinest said
Apr 3, 2014

Bump

Su Madre 24 said
Apr 4, 2014

1371 by end of the year.

That's my final answer.

spartan85 said
Apr 4, 2014

Why 1371?
Why not 1373??

Su Madre 24 said
Apr 4, 2014

Lmao
I'm guessing

Closest to the number wins

scheduleB_magnet said
Apr 4, 2014

Su Madre 24 wrote:
Lmao
I'm guessing

Closest to the number wins

I'm gonna guess 1369. When I'm right at the end of the year, I'LL BE LIKE...

Wanabmade said
Apr 5, 2014

ManHands wrote:
Semp1 wrote:
My guess is Nov. 1400's will be made by Nov/Dec the absolute latest.
That might have been a good estimate 6 months ago, but at this rate, not a chance in hell that would be the latest.
That would actually be the EARLIEST right now. You're not going to see this list hit 1400 anytime before Nov, and I would not be surprised if Jan 2015 we are still in the 1400's. I don't think people grasp how truly and dangerously slow this list is moving.

Perspective manhands..

end of April 2012.. 108 names promoted

end of April 2013.. 103 names promoted

by the end of this April 2014.. 120 names will be promoted. Seems to be the best year so far.

Semp1 said
Apr 5, 2014

Which is what I said in an earlier post. People get bent out of shape for nothing. The years are all the same. 500 is the average and will continue to be.