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4thtimeisthecharm said
Oct 21, 2013
I just PM you my score sheet Gamblor, not sure if it went through.
Plug my numbers in though
Best: 100
Worst: 78
Most likely: 83
I think I can finally relaxe a little! Thanks for setting this up Gamblor!
Latin said
Oct 21, 2013
How can I get a answer sheet from u. Im doing this through my phone.
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
Its an excellent spreadsheet. It just sucks these variables are not really accurate whatso ever due to not knowing which 30 are throw outs.
If this was a standard 100 q exam it would be absolutely fantastic.
C3llab3lla134 said
Oct 21, 2013
Can I send it to you through email?
kevin20872 said
Oct 21, 2013
have 31 different for now feel ok what do u guys think
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
Kevin,
These types of things end up being pretty damn accurate. The extra questions throws a monkey wrench in and makes it less so.
lpc said
Oct 21, 2013
Hey guys, sorry in advance if this has already been asked. But in regards to the spreadsheet, how do you interpret "possible doubles" I have "total", 4, "have one" 2.
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
Plus I'm sitting here like a crack head hoping for another update tonight....
Wingnut said
Oct 21, 2013
lpc wrote:
Hey guys, sorry in advance if this has already been asked. But in regards to the spreadsheet, how do you interpret "possible doubles" I have "total", 4, "have one" 2.
Currently there are 4 out of the 130 where 2 of the answers are getting almost all the votes (for lack of a better term).
You have one of those two possibles on two of the questions.
example....
30 answer keys entered, questions 1,2,3, and 4 all have 15 votes for A and 15 votes for B and you have either A or B for #1 and 2, but don't have either of them in 3 and 4.
kevin20872 said
Oct 21, 2013
what dcas does with doble answer?
ManHands said
Oct 21, 2013
Wingnut, I feel you man, I am logging on every 5 minutes to see if there is an update. I really do hope this is pretty close.
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
Its as close as it gets. Without knowing which 30 answers are tossed.. its not really accurate. But it is as accurate as it can be and will be for time being.
This exam is very difficult to predict our scores.
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Update up. New link on first post (Version 6). It now contains 39 keys.
1METSFAN said
Oct 21, 2013
HEY GAMBLOR I HAVE A VERY ACCURATE ANSWER KEY IM ALREADY ON THE LIST AND GOT AN ANSWER KEY FROM SOMEBODY WHO WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE FIRST CLASS. HE SCORED 13 ON THE ANSWER KEY U PROVIDED
1METSFAN said
Oct 21, 2013
HOW DO I FOWARD IT TO U
Dresch58 said
Oct 21, 2013
31 is an ok sign
kevin20872 said
Oct 21, 2013
same here
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
32forLife wrote:
I know everyone asking same questions but can i get some honest feedback.....spreadsheet says 73 worst and 100 best....you think I can relax now or still be nervous?
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
To answer the common questions:
1) If your worst is above 70, I would take that as a guarantee that you passed. Your Most Likely is probably going to be pretty close to what you get (before throwouts).
2) If you haven't sent me your key and want to, send it via PM to me here, or via email at support@ottrack.com. If you need your results, due to not having Excel, it not working for you, etc., make sure to let me know and I will respond with it.
I probably won't get to any more tonight, but I'll pick it up again tomorrow.
cop said
Oct 21, 2013
HAVING ISSUE WITH OPENING THE KEY TRY FIREFOX
Failboat said
Oct 21, 2013
thanks for doing this 28 different
Nay said
Oct 21, 2013
thank you for doing this Gamblor. THANK YOU!
TV1234 said
Oct 21, 2013
27 different.
33fornow said
Oct 21, 2013
Okay I have Best Possible 100, Most Likely 75, Worst Possible 68. Should I be worried or happy??? lol
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
anything under 70 would stay nervous
33fornow said
Oct 21, 2013
Damn....total different is 28 though hmmmmmm
Noll0317 said
Oct 21, 2013
Sent key. Now what
33fornow said
Oct 21, 2013
Noll0317 you just have to wait and I am sure it will be added to the file with a few others maybe tomorrow morning or afternoon!
yougonow said
Oct 21, 2013
32forLife wrote:
anything under 70 would stay nervous
My best is 82, likely 63, worst 50.
I am a little nervous but I will be ok once we know which 30 are tossed. Until then, itspeculation deal of up in the air speculation.
crap said
Oct 21, 2013
Best Possible 100
Most Likely 78
Worst Possible 70
Gambor, I PM'd you my answers.
Honestly, I don't know what to make of this test. I studied my ass off for 2 months @ 3-5 hours a day, then last 2 months @ 5-8 hours a day, and the week of the test, I had vacation so I studied 10-12 hours a day. Let me tell you, I rushed through this test like crazy. I barely had time to eliminate any answers and I was constantly checking on my watch right up until the end.
Many cops in my room didn't even finish and 1 poor girl studied real hard and answered only 100 not realizing that there were more questions after. I had no time for review and I did the in-basket last so I rushed it and got 6 wrong on it alone. I cannot believe that DCAS didn't allow us more time since they added an additional 30 questions.
Honestly, I think this test was setup to get as few cops on the list as possible. They still have a lot on the 2011 list and they can't have another 1000+ list to siphon through.
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
yougonow wrote:
32forLife wrote:
anything under 70 would stay nervous
My best is 82, likely 63, worst 50.
I am a little nervous but I will be ok once we know which 30 are tossed. Until then, itspeculation deal of up in the air speculation.
anything under 70 for worst...means no guarantees...your best should be around 95-100
Noll0317 said
Oct 21, 2013
According to his sheet 24 different out of 130. Some that were moderate confidence but still not bad. Hopefully some of those wrong ones are the research one
Camaro23 said
Oct 21, 2013
Now I have a most likely 80, and a worst possible 73. It started originally off of verison one with a most likely 78 and a worst possible 65. First rounds on me after the protest if this thing is accurate.
Mission said
Oct 21, 2013
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I enter in my sheet and it won't tally up the 3 outcomes for me. I get a bunch of error messages when I open it up so it's probably something on my end.
Anyway I got 23 wrong 10 of which are moderate/low, with another 12 answers right that are at moderate and low
So I don't know how to do the math but I'm guessing the program would do a best of 100 and a low of 65?
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:14:32 PM
unborn said
Oct 21, 2013
AhouseRocker wrote:
To put some of you at ease, I took the 2011 test. Answer keys had me in 70's at first. Ended up when all said and done with a much higher score and was in in second promotional class. They tend to get more accurate as time goes on. Also on one question I was one of a few who had a different answer than most others so according to the key everyone was using most got it right and I got it wrong. Ended up I was right and most was wrong. Just saying simply bc majority got it right doesn't always make it so.
I used the spreadsheet for the last Lt exam (it's great by the way). My score with the preliminary key was off by 2, but with the final key I wound up getting 9 points higher. With a good number of answer keys, it's should be close to accurate, give or take 10 points.
-- Edited by unborn on Monday 21st of October 2013 03:08:42 PM
carol said
Oct 21, 2013
how should I be feeling :(?
-- Edited by carol on Tuesday 29th of October 2013 02:02:53 PM
CryTwoSeven said
Oct 21, 2013
Very useful stuff. When it's done right like this it's always 90-100 % correct.
i remember we did this back in 2011 and we got 99/100 questions correct. this is a great tool to compare your questions and get a nice idea on how u did.
-- Edited by CryTwoSeven on Monday 21st of October 2013 05:44:47 PM
TV1234 said
Oct 21, 2013
Don't forget the extra points if you are eligible
Arrow said
Oct 21, 2013
I only got to do 112 questions
my best possible 94
Most likely 72
Worst 63
83 high
8 moderate
3 low
whats in it for me gamblor?
-- Edited by Arrow on Monday 21st of October 2013 07:17:31 PM
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
Wow, I woke up this morning to a massive amount of keys and requests. I did as many as I could but apparently I can't take an eday to sit at my computer all day and type in abacadaba. :)
I sent responses to those that I got to and will do more this afternoon. If you asked me for your results, be patient and I will definitely get back to you today. I will also post an updated key this afternoon with a ton more source keys in it.
carman728 said
Oct 21, 2013
You the man
1METSFAN said
Oct 21, 2013
Gamblor I sent u an answer keys hope it helps
Gamblor said
Oct 21, 2013
New key posted again. I added three more source keys and changed the way it handled double answers to make it more accurate. I also took out the version identifier in the name that way, when people send the link to friends, I don't break it by changing the file name. The new version identifier is in the file itself. This is version 8.
-- Edited by Gamblor on Monday 21st of October 2013 08:31:56 PM
MJV231 said
Oct 21, 2013
ok someone explain this to me please cause im going crazy and as much as i tell myself this cant be too accurate (not saying im not grateful gamblor) but the popular answer doesnt mean its the right answer... there are a couple of question there its marking incorrect because the majority picked something else. I know for a fact that 2 questions are being marked incorrect and they were correct... specifically question 4 which was the force figure question... i am extremely confident it was choice A. which was 41.. and there is another question which my colleague feels strongly about and explained it to me and i agreed i was wrong, and again that question is being marked incorrect because the popular answer is not the one that "is" correct.
so statistically what conclusion can we draw from the logarithm?
im sorry i have nothing better to do, i would have normally been studying... lol still trying to get use to the fact that i actually have nothing to do, while im home...
I wanted to add this.... the majority of the people are not getting 90 - 100... they are getting 70 - 80
-- Edited by MJV231 on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:01:24 PM
kaki1723 said
Oct 21, 2013
Your efforts are very much appreciated.
These are my results:
Best possible: 100
Most likely: 77
Worst possible: 70
How should I feel about this???
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
32forLife wrote:
you notify co when its 7 days...if you have more than 7 days notice you notify ico and they adjust your rdos...so no c is not correct...
btw im just trolling...I forgot to write my name on scantron...didn't see any spot for it
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:21:06 PM
MJV231 said
Oct 21, 2013
32forLife wrote:
32forLife wrote:
you notify co when its 7 days...if you have more than 7 days notice you notify ico and they adjust your rdos...so no c is not correct...
btw im just trolling...I forgot to write my name on scantron...didn't see any spot for it
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:21:06 PM
you know something after ur mentioning it, im realizing there wasnt a place for your name on the scantron.. lol
-- Edited by MJV231 on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:31:04 PM
32forLife said
Oct 21, 2013
MJV231 wrote:
32forLife wrote:
32forLife wrote:
you notify co when its 7 days...if you have more than 7 days notice you notify ico and they adjust your rdos...so no c is not correct...
btw im just trolling...I forgot to write my name on scantron...didn't see any spot for it
sad im more nervous about not putting my name on it then actual exam 72 for worst and 100 for best I think im ok
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:21:06 PM
you know something after ur mentioning it, im realizing there wasnt a place for your name on the scantron.. lol
-- Edited by MJV231 on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:24:37 PM
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:26:22 PM
AhouseRocker said
Oct 21, 2013
To put some of you at ease, I took the 2011 test. Answer keys had me in 70's at first. Ended up when all said and done with a much higher score and was in in second promotional class. They tend to get more accurate as time goes on. Also on one question I was one of a few who had a different answer than most others so according to the key everyone was using most got it right and I got it wrong. Ended up I was right and most was wrong. Just saying simply bc majority got it right doesn't always make it so.
I just PM you my score sheet Gamblor, not sure if it went through.
Plug my numbers in though
Best: 100
Worst: 78
Most likely: 83
I think I can finally relaxe a little! Thanks for setting this up Gamblor!
How can I get a answer sheet from u. Im doing this through my phone.
If this was a standard 100 q exam it would be absolutely fantastic.
Kevin,
These types of things end up being pretty damn accurate. The extra questions throws a monkey wrench in and makes it less so.
Currently there are 4 out of the 130 where 2 of the answers are getting almost all the votes (for lack of a better term).
You have one of those two possibles on two of the questions.
example....
30 answer keys entered, questions 1,2,3, and 4 all have 15 votes for A and 15 votes for B and you have either A or B for #1 and 2, but don't have either of them in 3 and 4.
what dcas does with doble answer?
This exam is very difficult to predict our scores.
31 is an ok sign
same here
1) If your worst is above 70, I would take that as a guarantee that you passed. Your Most Likely is probably going to be pretty close to what you get (before throwouts).
2) If you haven't sent me your key and want to, send it via PM to me here, or via email at support@ottrack.com. If you need your results, due to not having Excel, it not working for you, etc., make sure to let me know and I will respond with it.
I probably won't get to any more tonight, but I'll pick it up again tomorrow.
HAVING ISSUE WITH OPENING THE KEY TRY FIREFOX
thanks for doing this 28 different
anything under 70 would stay nervous
My best is 82, likely 63, worst 50.
I am a little nervous but I will be ok once we know which 30 are tossed. Until then, itspeculation deal of up in the air speculation.
Most Likely 78
Worst Possible 70
Gambor, I PM'd you my answers.
Honestly, I don't know what to make of this test. I studied my ass off for 2 months @ 3-5 hours a day, then last 2 months @ 5-8 hours a day, and the week of the test, I had vacation so I studied 10-12 hours a day. Let me tell you, I rushed through this test like crazy. I barely had time to eliminate any answers and I was constantly checking on my watch right up until the end.
Many cops in my room didn't even finish and 1 poor girl studied real hard and answered only 100 not realizing that there were more questions after. I had no time for review and I did the in-basket last so I rushed it and got 6 wrong on it alone. I cannot believe that DCAS didn't allow us more time since they added an additional 30 questions.
Honestly, I think this test was setup to get as few cops on the list as possible. They still have a lot on the 2011 list and they can't have another 1000+ list to siphon through.
anything under 70 for worst...means no guarantees...your best should be around 95-100
I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I enter in my sheet and it won't tally up the 3 outcomes for me. I get a bunch of error messages when I open it up so it's probably something on my end.
Anyway I got 23 wrong 10 of which are moderate/low, with another 12 answers right that are at moderate and low
So I don't know how to do the math but I'm guessing the program would do a best of 100 and a low of 65?
http://www.ottrack.com/downloads/AnswerKeyV6.xlsx
posting links are possible
-- Edited by JDMEVO9 on Monday 21st of October 2013 02:14:32 PM
I used the spreadsheet for the last Lt exam (it's great by the way). My score with the preliminary key was off by 2, but with the final key I wound up getting 9 points higher. With a good number of answer keys, it's should be close to accurate, give or take 10 points.
-- Edited by unborn on Monday 21st of October 2013 03:08:42 PM
how should I be feeling :(?
-- Edited by carol on Tuesday 29th of October 2013 02:02:53 PM
Very useful stuff. When it's done right like this it's always 90-100 % correct.
i remember we did this back in 2011 and we got 99/100 questions correct. this is a great tool to compare your questions and get a nice idea on how u did.
-- Edited by CryTwoSeven on Monday 21st of October 2013 05:44:47 PM
I only got to do 112 questions
my best possible 94
Most likely 72
Worst 63
83 high
8 moderate
3 low
whats in it for me gamblor?
-- Edited by Arrow on Monday 21st of October 2013 07:17:31 PM
I sent responses to those that I got to and will do more this afternoon. If you asked me for your results, be patient and I will definitely get back to you today. I will also post an updated key this afternoon with a ton more source keys in it.
You the man
New key posted again. I added three more source keys and changed the way it handled double answers to make it more accurate. I also took out the version identifier in the name that way, when people send the link to friends, I don't break it by changing the file name. The new version identifier is in the file itself. This is version 8.
-- Edited by Gamblor on Monday 21st of October 2013 08:31:56 PM
ok someone explain this to me please cause im going crazy and as much as i tell myself this cant be too accurate (not saying im not grateful gamblor) but the popular answer doesnt mean its the right answer... there are a couple of question there its marking incorrect because the majority picked something else. I know for a fact that 2 questions are being marked incorrect and they were correct... specifically question 4 which was the force figure question... i am extremely confident it was choice A. which was 41.. and there is another question which my colleague feels strongly about and explained it to me and i agreed i was wrong, and again that question is being marked incorrect because the popular answer is not the one that "is" correct.
so statistically what conclusion can we draw from the logarithm?
im sorry i have nothing better to do, i would have normally been studying... lol still trying to get use to the fact that i actually have nothing to do, while im home...
I wanted to add this.... the majority of the people are not getting 90 - 100... they are getting 70 - 80
-- Edited by MJV231 on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:01:24 PM
Your efforts are very much appreciated.
These are my results:
Best possible: 100
Most likely: 77
Worst possible: 70
How should I feel about this???
btw im just trolling...I forgot to write my name on scantron...didn't see any spot for it
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:21:06 PM
you know something after ur mentioning it, im realizing there wasnt a place for your name on the scantron.. lol
-- Edited by MJV231 on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:31:04 PM
-- Edited by 32forLife on Monday 21st of October 2013 09:26:22 PM