It's not slowing down unless you consider two months of no promotions as slowing down. That 0-64 could be -40, 24 in a day. That many people on terminal is a good sign. Either way by year end they'll be 100-120 more promotions.
Gomery2898 said
Jul 29, 2013
Any updates on the numbers?
technocrat1 said
Jul 29, 2013
No change
technocrat1 said
Jul 30, 2013
-1 and 64
SimpleQuestion said
Jul 30, 2013
FYI, keep in mind with the safe city safe street hires coming into retirement mode every six months over the next 2 years, this list might expire faster than what most are thinking. Keep in mind, February another 1500 will be set to retire.
To all on this list be patient, it'll happen.
big guy said
Jul 31, 2013
Seems like this large # on terminal have been on terminal forever! When are they due to come off?!!
technocrat1 said
Jul 31, 2013
July had 2 and August has 21 coming off terminal. Thats what makes me think we should be having a decent size class in August.
big guy said
Jul 31, 2013
Right okay cool..and then the other 40 or so will be coming off in sept/october i guess... its just that for so long ive been hearing how these massive waves of retirements are coming and im still waiting to see when this is going to happen
smartcookie said
Aug 1, 2013
Keep in mind also, that the 'massive wave of retirements' encompasses the August 1993 class of 2,500 people- most of whom are not Lt. So, though there may be many retirements across the board, only Lts and Capts retiring will affect our promotions.
Booking Fool said
Aug 1, 2013
August 29th is the retirement date for that '93 class. Out of the 2500 you have to count everyone LT and up. If 10 Inspectors retire, it trickles down. Even if 10% are Lts thats 250. I'm willing to bet LT and above is at least 800 out of that 2500.
nycop80 said
Aug 1, 2013
800 seems a bit high
smartcookie said
Aug 1, 2013
You're right Booking Fool, all ranks Lt and above would affect us. Your estimation of 800 Lts and above leaving from that class is quite a lofty one though. I hope you have a crystal ball and it is dead on.
Booking Fool said
Aug 1, 2013
I wish I had that crystal ball. I just figure over a 20 year career 35-40% have to hit sgt. Say 25% go higher , that's about 600. So maybe a little less than 800 even if its half that and only half of them retire, you're still looking at 150 to retire. Either way this list will just about done before 2014 ends.
Edubz said
Aug 1, 2013
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but 80% of Lt. and above stay past 20 years. And that will increase every year now that you have to commit a felony to lose your pension.
Booking Fool said
Aug 1, 2013
Look your 80% as well as my percentages are just speculation. Although I agree the higher the rank the longer you stay, based solely on the numbers there will definitely be a September class if not an August class. There are too many eligible for retirement. Not to sound like a complete d**k, but all I really care about is them getting to my number (50 names) as quickly as possible. Based on the numbers I'm sure they'll be two more classes before years end. Probably 3.
Horseman said
Aug 2, 2013
-11 and 57
Abeyance said
Aug 2, 2013
The promotions will remain steady, just have to stay steadfast! Most of the guys on patrol will probably leave when able to!
Killbox1alpha said
Aug 2, 2013
There will be no promotions this month. I was told that there will be a large group in September.
Atlanta said
Aug 2, 2013
Lts getting promoted possible the Same date as when the sgts are getting promoted???. That date has not been announced yet.....
-- Edited by Atlanta on Friday 2nd of August 2013 05:31:13 PM
-- Edited by Atlanta on Monday 5th of August 2013 08:05:04 PM
Twenty N Out said
Aug 2, 2013
When in September?
Atlanta said
Aug 3, 2013
A sgt bmoc class is going in this monday which means they won't get promoted for about 4-5 weeks depending on whenever the PC is free. Based on the vacancy numbers they'll most likely promote Lts the same time as the sgts. So yes, expect promotions the beginning of September.....
Gamblor said
Aug 3, 2013
If sergeants are going in on Monday, then promotions would be on August 30th for them. Now just wait and see if we get to join them.
Booking Fool said
Aug 3, 2013
The above is why it is so annoying when people who know nothing start throwing out BS. Do not post your bulls*it and declare it as fact.
Walter H White said
Aug 5, 2013
BRAT- Any LT. updates for Aug/Sept?
Killbox1alpha said
Aug 6, 2013
I was told that they are planning on promoting a "large" group September. What a large group means I haven't been told. My guy said about 40 maybe more.
technocrat1 said
Aug 6, 2013
Is it in the beginning of September or the end?
Jooky said
Aug 6, 2013
Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.
smartcookie said
Aug 6, 2013
Jooky wrote:
Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.
A friend of mine is waiting to get promoted to Capt and he was told in Sept. Once he starts his 2 weeks training prior to promotion, then we will have a good idea of when Capts will get promoted next month.
technocrat1 said
Aug 6, 2013
Understood. Thanks. Its still a bit early I suppose to get solid info. I figure in about 2 weeks we should know if its going to be August or September.
Jooky said
Aug 6, 2013
-11 and 58.
twntynout said
Aug 6, 2013
Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...
big guy said
Aug 6, 2013
twntynout wrote:
Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...
Exactly,me either...this list seems it will be no different than any of the past averaging about 200 a year just about---these guys arent leaving after all no jobs out there i guess....
smartcookie said
Aug 6, 2013
big guy wrote:
twntynout wrote:
Still not seeing this mass exodus people were talking about, really hope its still true...
Exactly,me either...this list seems it will be no different than any of the past averaging about 200 a year just about---these guys arent leaving after all no jobs out there i guess....
The mass exodus class hits 20 on 8/29/13. We'll see if the large numbers of retirements are there after that date.
Booking Fool said
Aug 6, 2013
58 on terminal is big if you ask me. And it went from 0-60 in like two days. Not to mention most waive their terminal. As the cookie said their retirement date is August 29th. See what the numbers are then.
Gomery2898 said
Aug 7, 2013
Jooky wrote:
Not sure about the timing, but we are currently at -11 and have 15 more going out on either 8/30 or 8/31 and 13 more retiring on 09/01/2013. Which would bring us to 39 not including any new retirements between now and then. Also, we don't know if/ how many Lt's are making Captain. Didn't answer your question, but hope that helps.
Since these numbers were originally put up, there has been at least another 10 more added(As per Finest messages). There will be at least 50 vacancies in the Lt rank come September 1st NOT including Captain's promotion. I'm expecting a class of 50+ at the end of the month.
LeatherNeck said
Aug 7, 2013
From your lips to the pc's ear........ Here is to hoping the pc goes on a promotion binge before leaving office!!!!!
technocrat1 said
Aug 7, 2013
Gomery, so you're saying at the end of August for the promotions?
Gomery2898 said
Aug 7, 2013
technocrat1 wrote:
Gomery, so you're saying at the end of August for the promotions?
I'm saying the numbers are there and I can't see them waiting another month with that many vacancies.
technocrat1 said
Aug 7, 2013
I agree.
Killbox1alpha said
Aug 8, 2013
31 Lt's getting promoted at the end of the month along with 12 Capt's.
twntynout said
Aug 8, 2013
Slow n steady but hey ill take it. 4 months left for the year after this, any chance of 2 more classes? 100 more Lt's?
Jooky said
Aug 8, 2013
Assuming no changes, by August 31, we will be at -26 and with the 12 Captain promotions, it will be -38. In addition, there are another 13 going out on September 1. Assuming only 31 get promoted at the end of the month, by September 1 we will already be at -20. Assuming my math is correct (I got most of those wrong so probably not), another big September class?
Jooky said
Aug 8, 2013
Another 6 retiring after the 1st of the month. Making a total of 19 going out in September.
technocrat1 said
Aug 8, 2013
Heard it was 35 lieuts going in.
Refund said
Aug 10, 2013
Anyone know the numbers of terminal/retired?
technocrat1 said
Aug 12, 2013
-11 and 60
Gomery2898 said
Aug 12, 2013
technocrat1 wrote:
-11 and 60
Looks like we will be having back to back promotions!
Why do you say that?
Any updates on the numbers?
To all on this list be patient, it'll happen.
Seems like this large # on terminal have been on terminal forever! When are they due to come off?!!
Right okay cool..and then the other 40 or so will be coming off in sept/october i guess... its just that for so long ive been hearing how these massive waves of retirements are coming and im still waiting to see when this is going to happen
Keep in mind also, that the 'massive wave of retirements' encompasses the August 1993 class of 2,500 people- most of whom are not Lt. So, though there may be many retirements across the board, only Lts and Capts retiring will affect our promotions.
You're right Booking Fool, all ranks Lt and above would affect us. Your estimation of 800 Lts and above leaving from that class is quite a lofty one though. I hope you have a crystal ball and it is dead on.
-11 and 57
Lts getting promoted possible the Same date as when the sgts are getting promoted???. That date has not been announced yet.....
-- Edited by Atlanta on Friday 2nd of August 2013 05:31:13 PM
-- Edited by Atlanta on Monday 5th of August 2013 08:05:04 PM
BRAT- Any LT. updates for Aug/Sept?
A friend of mine is waiting to get promoted to Capt and he was told in Sept. Once he starts his 2 weeks training prior to promotion, then we will have a good idea of when Capts will get promoted next month.
Exactly,me either...this list seems it will be no different than any of the past averaging about 200 a year just about---these guys arent leaving after all no jobs out there i guess....
The mass exodus class hits 20 on 8/29/13. We'll see if the large numbers of retirements are there after that date.
Since these numbers were originally put up, there has been at least another 10 more added(As per Finest messages). There will be at least 50 vacancies in the Lt rank come September 1st NOT including Captain's promotion. I'm expecting a class of 50+ at the end of the month.
I'm saying the numbers are there and I can't see them waiting another month with that many vacancies.
Anyone know the numbers of terminal/retired?
Looks like we will be having back to back promotions!