Got bad news.. No promos for sept and October is 50/50 shot
I think that rumor of no promotions until next year might be true. This job is truly dead.
RS2323 said
Sep 10, 2020
chief of depts' office does not want to take anyone off patrol so transfers are more or less done with for a while. If you are off patrol a little easier to move around. I can see them holding off on promotions for as long as possible. Do more with less.
rookiebit_h said
Sep 10, 2020
RS2323 wrote:
chief of depts' office does not want to take anyone off patrol so transfers are more or less done with for a while. If you are off patrol a little easier to move around. I can see them holding off on promotions for as long as possible. Do more with less.
Sadly youre prob Right.. I didnt want to believe no promos until Jan. Or even July 2021. But I can see it!
Jibberjab said
Sep 10, 2020
When does this list expire?
Shotsfired said
Sep 10, 2020
Jibberjab wrote:
When does this list expire?
June 2022
Taketheday said
Sep 10, 2020
Unfortunately it seems like this list is not going to get anywhere close to finished, And I doubt it will be extended. This entire year because of the cities money concerns i would expect a new test end of next year so jus be prepared for another test honestly cant see a way for this list to really move in the time left before its expiration.
ohnoes said
Sep 10, 2020
By the numbers there was never really a chance of getting through the entire list. There's 1325 people on the list. Over 48 months that would mean an average of over 27 people promoted each month. I did the math a while ago, if I remember correctly the average promotions for Lieutenant was like 14 a month. That would have to be nearly doubled for the whole list to get made.
I'm not sure of the headcount of Lieutenants, I've heard it's like 1800, no matter what 1325 has to be a substantial portion of the Lieutenant numbers, and it is unreasonable to expect a substantial portion (over 50%) of the total number of Lieutenants to be replaced in a 4 year period.
The numbers just aren't there.
brooklynbacon said
Sep 10, 2020
RS2323 wrote:
chief of depts' office does not want to take anyone off patrol so transfers are more or less done with for a while. If you are off patrol a little easier to move around. I can see them holding off on promotions for as long as possible. Do more with less.
You just need a crane.
brooklynbacon said
Sep 10, 2020
ohnoes wrote:
By the numbers there was never really a chance of getting through the entire list. There's 1325 people on the list. Over 48 months that would mean an average of over 27 people promoted each month. I did the math a while ago, if I remember correctly the average promotions for Lieutenant was like 14 a month. That would have to be nearly doubled for the whole list to get made.
I'm not sure of the headcount of Lieutenants, I've heard it's like 1800, no matter what 1325 has to be a substantial portion of the Lieutenant numbers, and it is unreasonable to expect a substantial portion (over 50%) of the total number of Lieutenants to be replaced in a 4 year period.
The numbers just aren't there.
I believe its 1500-1600. Minus 200 now and its anywhere from 1300-1400.
Shotsfired said
Sep 10, 2020
Taketheday wrote:
Unfortunately it seems like this list is not going to get anywhere close to finished, And I doubt it will be extended. This entire year because of the cities money concerns i would expect a new test end of next year so jus be prepared for another test honestly cant see a way for this list to really move in the time left before its expiration.
Unfortunately as long as they dont put an academy class in there wont be any promotions on any of these lists. The job would rather do more with less. The PO head count is already low so they arent gonna promote cops to sgts and deplete the head count even more. That obviously will affect all ranks.
Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul said
Sep 10, 2020
They are putting in an academy class of 200 Cadets in October. They submitted the Budget request for LT promotions for 9/25. This is coming from reliable source at the palace. Like anything else who knows hopefully its a go!
Jibberjab said
Sep 10, 2020
Shotsfired wrote:
Taketheday wrote:
Unfortunately it seems like this list is not going to get anywhere close to finished, And I doubt it will be extended. This entire year because of the cities money concerns i would expect a new test end of next year so jus be prepared for another test honestly cant see a way for this list to really move in the time left before its expiration.
Unfortunately as long as they dont put an academy class in there wont be any promotions on any of these lists. The job would rather do more with less. The PO head count is already low so they arent gonna promote cops to sgts and deplete the head count even more. That obviously will affect all ranks.
Sadly this department could easily cut so much fat from useless units that are do nothings. But we will stretch patrol thin and work them to beyond exhaustion.
Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul said
Sep 10, 2020
Bc patrol sucks
BronxFriedRice said
Sep 14, 2020
Just saw an e-mail to get ready for CARB. Don't have a CARB date but she said it would be soon.
-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Monday 14th of September 2020 03:51:48 AM
Shotsfired said
Sep 14, 2020
BronxFriedRice wrote:
Just saw an e-mail to get ready for CARB. Don't have a CARB date but she said it would be soon.
-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Monday 14th of September 2020 03:51:48 AM
Thats a good sign, but I wouldnt get too excited. The city Council still has to approve on all the Promotions. That is not a good thing.
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:29:23 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:30:04 AM
Semp1 said
Sep 14, 2020
Shotsfired wrote:
BronxFriedRice wrote:
Just saw an e-mail to get ready for CARB. Don't have a CARB date but she said it would be soon.
-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Monday 14th of September 2020 03:51:48 AM
Thats a good sign, but I wouldnt get too excited. The city Council still has to approve on all the Promotions. That is not a good thing.
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:29:23 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:30:04 AM
I assume you're joking. The city council has 0 to do with promotions.
Copper said
Sep 14, 2020
40 LTs will be getting promoted on 9/25 at 1000.
Caralho said
Sep 14, 2020
rookiebit_h wrote:
BROOKLYN77 wrote:
Well, it is the 10th of September, so to think there was promotions this month was foolish.
Not necessarily, Sept 25 was promo .. if it was anything like May. It would be walk across stage, salute and to your command on sept 28
wishful thinking!not happening
-- Edited by rookiebit_h on Thursday 10th of September 2020 01:30:22 PM
rookiebit_h said
Sep 14, 2020
Caralho wrote:
rookiebit_h wrote:
BROOKLYN77 wrote:
Well, it is the 10th of September, so to think there was promotions this month was foolish.
Not necessarily, Sept 25 was promo .. if it was anything like May. It would be walk across stage, salute and to your command on sept 28
wishful thinking!not happening
-- Edited by rookiebit_h on Thursday 10th of September 2020 01:30:22 PM
what are you replying to?
Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul said
Sep 14, 2020
How about a source to back that up? I was told they waiting on approval for budge. did your source they its approved?
-- Edited by Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul on Monday 14th of September 2020 12:58:06 PM
Nyjoe84 said
Sep 14, 2020
Guys guys stop arguing, these are all rumors and he says she says stories. Discuss facts.
crap said
Sep 14, 2020
So this is confirmed? 40 isn't 70 but at this point any movement is awesome.
Semp1 said
Sep 14, 2020
Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul wrote:
How about a source to back that up? I was told they waiting on approval for budge. did your source they its approved?
-- Edited by Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul on Monday 14th of September 2020 12:58:06 PM
Theres no approval from any one in regards to city council. I saw you had also said that back on another post. Thats completely false. The only people involved with promos are PC, Personnel and OMAP.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 14th of September 2020 10:18:05 PM
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 14th of September 2020 10:18:25 PM
samuroy said
Sep 15, 2020
Apparently from what I heard, Personnel knows nothing about promotions. People seemed to have started rumors because personnel files have been requested for transfers.
I honestly dont know what to believe anymore. One person tells me that theres going to be promos, another confirms, another debunks... arrrrgggghhhh!
samuroy said
Sep 15, 2020
Copper wrote:
40 LTs will be getting promoted on 9/25 at 1000.
Can you elaborate at all? You seem to have very specific information.
DT-Tres said
Sep 16, 2020
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
40 LTs will be getting promoted on 9/25 at 1000.
Can you elaborate at all? You seem to have very specific information.
It's difficult for anyone to elaborate in this forum any longer. The minute you post any information you come across people feel the need to attack.
-- Edited by DT-Tres on Wednesday 16th of September 2020 12:09:05 AM
samuroy said
Sep 16, 2020
DT-Tres wrote:
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
40 LTs will be getting promoted on 9/25 at 1000.
Can you elaborate at all? You seem to have very specific information.
It's difficult for anyone to elaborate in this forum any longer. The minute you post any information you come across people feel the need to attack.
-- Edited by DT-Tres on Wednesday 16th of September 2020 12:09:05 AM
How dare you!?! Just kidding. Okay. Lets all just attack me. I dont care. If someone says something and anyone feels the need to attack, let me be the pie hole and everyone attack me. In exchange, please provide information, and Copper please elaborate.
Copper said
Sep 16, 2020
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
samuroy said
Sep 16, 2020
Copper wrote:
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
Nyjoe84 said
Sep 16, 2020
Not that Im calling you a liar but where are you getting this info from? You only have 55 post on this site and never heard you ever on this site releasing any such inform before In the past.
brooklynbacon said
Sep 16, 2020
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
The late session is usually for sgts and down.
Sgts are out because theres no current bmoc.
So that leaves detectives and civilians which i dont see happening.
Conditionsuck said
Sep 16, 2020
Who cares if you have 2000 or 2 posts ...smh. I've been on this site for 14 years and barely post...
Nyjoe84 said
Sep 16, 2020
Exactly my point which means you have little to knowledge to report what your reporting. If you haven't ever before why would anyone listen to you now?
DT-Tres said
Sep 16, 2020
Squad guys got told that they are getting promoted 9/25/20 at 1400. Hopefully the lieutenants go in.
samuroy said
Sep 16, 2020
DT-Tres wrote:
Squad guys got told that they are getting promoted 9/25/20 at 1400. Hopefully the lieutenants go in.
This supports what Copper said in the post that he kindly responded to when I asked for elaboration.
samuroy said
Sep 16, 2020
brooklynbacon wrote:
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
The late session is usually for sgts and down.
Sgts are out because theres no current bmoc.
So that leaves detectives and civilians which i dont see happening.
See? Maybe there is hope!
DT-Tres said
Sep 16, 2020
samuroy wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
The late session is usually for sgts and down.
Sgts are out because theres no current bmoc.
So that leaves detectives and civilians which i dont see happening.
See? Maybe there is hope!
Yes but I want more than hope lol. I want at least 2 good classes before the end of the year. One now and perhaps another for the holidays like they usually do.
samuroy said
Sep 17, 2020
DT-Tres wrote:
samuroy wrote:
brooklynbacon wrote:
samuroy wrote:
Copper wrote:
Not sure how else can I elaborate? I thought I was pretty direct. Well so, On 25th, there will be two promotions: one at 1000 and the second at 1400. For 1000 promotion, 40 LTs are slated to be promoted. Like anything on this job, until a finest is not dropped, nothing is confirmed so dont drive yourself crazy on asking sources of this information.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
The late session is usually for sgts and down.
Sgts are out because theres no current bmoc.
So that leaves detectives and civilians which i dont see happening.
See? Maybe there is hope!
Yes but I want more than hope lol. I want at least 2 good classes before the end of the year. One now and perhaps another for the holidays like they usually do.
I don't know dude... or non dude... or whatever you identify as; I'm convinced that its going to happen at the end of the month be it the 24th, the 25th or what not. There's alot of chatter I'm hearing from several sources that all seem to jive more and more. Maybe Im reaching. But I have a good feeling.
samuroy said
Sep 17, 2020
But my having a good feeling holds the weight of about half a mouse pube. But still. I have a good feeling.
rookiebit_h said
Sep 17, 2020
MAJOR EXECUTIVE MOVEMENT
soccerpsyco32 said
Sep 18, 2020
rookiebit_h wrote:
MAJOR EXECUTIVE MOVEMENT
Yup.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Friday 18th of September 2020 06:48:06 AM
Superman said
Sep 18, 2020
soccerpsyco32 wrote:
rookiebit_h wrote:
MAJOR EXECUTIVE MOVEMENT
Yup.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Friday 18th of September 2020 06:48:06 AM
Like what?
rookiebit_h said
Sep 18, 2020
Kemper to DB
Kenny to BNDB
Hernandez 47 to DBBX
Sautner DB to DBQS
Abbassi 120 to Collaborative
Savino Central Rob to GSVD
Timoney MTS to PBBX as XO
Gilbert 105 to SSD
Gurley 43 to HB
Henry 107 to DBBN
Nunez 114 to 47
Shine 109 to TBBX/QNS
Soto 30 to PBMN
Mullaney TD20 to 107
Omalley 76 to MTS
Coleman 10 to TB
Kinsella PSA1 to 120
Perry 104 to CAB
Fiore DBBN to Central Rob
Wynne 17 to Hwy XO
Ramsey PSA8 to 43
Marchese 30 to TD11
Gault PBMS TSU to 10
Fabara PBQS SU to 100
Longobardi 62 to PBBS
Hall 100 to 104
Korabel Firearm Sup to 30
Ewards 7 to 17 CO
Chen 71 to 62 CO
Jenkins DB GSQS to 114
Pinkhasov TD11 to 105
Zelikov 70 to 76 CO
Oconnell 9 to 109
Rogers PSA2 to PSA1 CO
Clement MTN to 9 CO
Deleo PSA9 to PSA8 CO
Orlando TD34 to TD20
Cheung TBBK TF to TD34 CO
I think that rumor of no promotions until next year might be true. This job is truly dead.
chief of depts' office does not want to take anyone off patrol so transfers are more or less done with for a while. If you are off patrol a little easier to move around. I can see them holding off on promotions for as long as possible. Do more with less.
Sadly youre prob Right.. I didnt want to believe no promos until Jan. Or even July 2021. But I can see it!
June 2022
I'm not sure of the headcount of Lieutenants, I've heard it's like 1800, no matter what 1325 has to be a substantial portion of the Lieutenant numbers, and it is unreasonable to expect a substantial portion (over 50%) of the total number of Lieutenants to be replaced in a 4 year period.
The numbers just aren't there.
You just need a crane.
I believe its 1500-1600. Minus 200 now and its anywhere from 1300-1400.
Unfortunately as long as they dont put an academy class in there wont be any promotions on any of these lists. The job would rather do more with less. The PO head count is already low so they arent gonna promote cops to sgts and deplete the head count even more. That obviously will affect all ranks.
Sadly this department could easily cut so much fat from useless units that are do nothings. But we will stretch patrol thin and work them to beyond exhaustion.
Just saw an e-mail to get ready for CARB. Don't have a CARB date but she said it would be soon.
-- Edited by BronxFriedRice on Monday 14th of September 2020 03:51:48 AM
Thats a good sign, but I wouldnt get too excited. The city Council still has to approve on all the Promotions. That is not a good thing.
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:29:23 AM
-- Edited by Shotsfired on Monday 14th of September 2020 05:30:04 AM
I assume you're joking. The city council has 0 to do with promotions.
what are you replying to?
How about a source to back that up? I was told they waiting on approval for budge. did your source they its approved?
-- Edited by Highwaytherapytocleansethesoul on Monday 14th of September 2020 12:58:06 PM
So this is confirmed? 40 isn't 70 but at this point any movement is awesome.
Theres no approval from any one in regards to city council. I saw you had also said that back on another post. Thats completely false. The only people involved with promos are PC, Personnel and OMAP.
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 14th of September 2020 10:18:05 PM
-- Edited by Semp1 on Monday 14th of September 2020 10:18:25 PM
I honestly dont know what to believe anymore. One person tells me that theres going to be promos, another confirms, another debunks... arrrrgggghhhh!
Can you elaborate at all? You seem to have very specific information.
It's difficult for anyone to elaborate in this forum any longer. The minute you post any information you come across people feel the need to attack.
-- Edited by DT-Tres on Wednesday 16th of September 2020 12:09:05 AM
How dare you!?! Just kidding. Okay. Lets all just attack me. I dont care. If someone says something and anyone feels the need to attack, let me be the pie hole and everyone attack me. In exchange, please provide information, and Copper please elaborate.
Ill take it! Thank you. Whos in The second session?
Not that Im calling you a liar but where are you getting this info from? You only have 55 post on this site and never heard you ever on this site releasing any such inform before In the past.
The late session is usually for sgts and down.
Sgts are out because theres no current bmoc.
So that leaves detectives and civilians which i dont see happening.
Exactly my point which means you have little to knowledge to report what your reporting. If you haven't ever before why would anyone listen to you now?
This supports what Copper said in the post that he kindly responded to when I asked for elaboration.
See? Maybe there is hope!
Yes but I want more than hope lol. I want at least 2 good classes before the end of the year. One now and perhaps another for the holidays like they usually do.
I don't know dude... or non dude... or whatever you identify as; I'm convinced that its going to happen at the end of the month be it the 24th, the 25th or what not. There's alot of chatter I'm hearing from several sources that all seem to jive more and more. Maybe Im reaching. But I have a good feeling.
Yup.
-- Edited by soccerpsyco32 on Friday 18th of September 2020 06:48:06 AM
Like what?
Kenny to BNDB
Hernandez 47 to DBBX
Sautner DB to DBQS
Abbassi 120 to Collaborative
Savino Central Rob to GSVD
Timoney MTS to PBBX as XO
Gilbert 105 to SSD
Gurley 43 to HB
Henry 107 to DBBN
Nunez 114 to 47
Shine 109 to TBBX/QNS
Soto 30 to PBMN
Mullaney TD20 to 107
Omalley 76 to MTS
Coleman 10 to TB
Kinsella PSA1 to 120
Perry 104 to CAB
Fiore DBBN to Central Rob
Wynne 17 to Hwy XO
Ramsey PSA8 to 43
Marchese 30 to TD11
Gault PBMS TSU to 10
Fabara PBQS SU to 100
Longobardi 62 to PBBS
Hall 100 to 104
Korabel Firearm Sup to 30
Ewards 7 to 17 CO
Chen 71 to 62 CO
Jenkins DB GSQS to 114
Pinkhasov TD11 to 105
Zelikov 70 to 76 CO
Oconnell 9 to 109
Rogers PSA2 to PSA1 CO
Clement MTN to 9 CO
Deleo PSA9 to PSA8 CO
Orlando TD34 to TD20
Cheung TBBK TF to TD34 CO