All this happened retro activity anyway any no body even realized it. I was promoted on Sept 2011, so I hit top pay on Sept 2015. They Settled the contract and we were paid in June 2015. The PBA contract ran from July 2012' to July 2016'. During those years retroactive i lost money. From July 2012' to July 2016' a top pay cop was making more than a starting Sgt. However it was retroactive so no one real noticed it.
2012-2016 a top pay cop was making %1 more than a starting SGT. So contractually I/We were making less than a top pay for those years, but nobody noticed it because it was retroactive
also the SBA took 0% upfront from March 2011 to' March 2012' .. The PBA did not take a 0%. They took %1 upfront. so that was about a $1,000 bucks lost.
-- Edited by Sullyten on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 05:27:15 PM
-- Edited by Sullyten on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 05:29:21 PM
TooSucio4u said
Sep 6, 2017
I also had the misunderstanding that the SBA was a "better" union than the others but when they came into BMOC and played that 'Don't let the other Sgt's know that you are getting pay more' I learned that they are like the other unions. Full of weasels, sleezy cheap politicians.
-- Edited by TooSucio4u on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 06:46:27 PM
4th Time said
Sep 6, 2017
Sorry to see you guys feelings hurt... Welcome to the NYPD... ... Get over it.... Not trying to troll... But we all went through this at some point or the other.... SMH All unions sell out the newborn and or the young....
monkeybones said
Sep 6, 2017
So who is starting the lawsuit so I can jump on the bandwagon??
TooSucio4u said
Sep 6, 2017
No feelings hurt I went straight to top pay so it didn't affect me whatsoever but it did open my eyes as to the obvious.... all unions are the same. No one is better than the other
JobsAJoke said
Sep 7, 2017
Wasn't HeatMiser supposed to start a lawsuit on 8/24? I thought HeatMiser was for real...
Jibberjab said
Sep 7, 2017
That was heetmiser. Another troll
DRPapi1983 said
Sep 7, 2017
This place is full of trolls smfh
HeetMiser said
Sep 8, 2017
Jibberjab wrote:
That was heetmiser. Another troll
No that wasn't me , it was my brother Heatmiser. He said he was going to start a lawsuit but he realized it would be a waste of time so he decided not to.
CappedOut said
Sep 25, 2017
Are we sure the SBA isn't fighting for this?
I'm just trying to think... if there's a fight that can be won, why wouldn't they?
Or is the issue that they didn't do as well as the PBA at the table, they got better raises, and now we're just stuck with no recourse?
AWOL4Life said
Sep 25, 2017
Capped out- it's your last point. They just didn't do as well as the PBA. Little recourse left without good will from the city, which doesn't exist.
CappedOut said
Dec 1, 2017
Whatever happened with this?
Did anyone actually talk to the SBA and see what they had to say?
TooSucio4u said
Dec 1, 2017
Theres nothing to say other that it will be resolved on the next contract
CappedOut said
Dec 1, 2017
TooSucio4u wrote:
Theres nothing to say other that it will be resolved on the next contract
What do you mean? How so?
HeetMiser said
Dec 1, 2017
CappedOut wrote:
TooSucio4u wrote:
Theres nothing to say other that it will be resolved on the next contract
What do you mean? How so?
He means stop crying, life isn't meant to be a fair game all the time.9
Nyjoe84 said
Dec 2, 2017
I'm a little late to the party , but what the hell is going on here in this thread with newly promoted SGT's ????
CappedOut said
Dec 5, 2017
Nyjoe84 wrote:
I'm a little late to the party , but what the hell is going on here in this thread with newly promoted SGT's ????
Any sergeant promoted before the PBA contract was settled is making less money than the sergeants promoted after them.
monkeybones said
Dec 6, 2017
New sgts bottom of list = 3rd step starting & top pay in 1 year
top of list sgts prior to PBA contract = regular steps to top pay 4 years
we got screwed and they got lucky, but nothing new with the city.
OhGawd said
Dec 6, 2017
Isnt the SBA going to sue again? FLSA type lawsuit again?
AllDayRays said
Dec 6, 2017
monkeybones wrote:
New sgts bottom of list = 3rd step starting & top pay in 1 year top of list sgts prior to PBA contract = regular steps to top pay 4 years we got screwed and they got lucky, but nothing new with the city.
Is this confirmed they go to top pay after a year?
monkeybones said
Dec 6, 2017
They were told that they can't be held at 3rd step for 4 years, and would have to go to top pay after the year... and not to tell the other Sgt's. It has all been discussed in this thread and others and the SBA isn't doing anything their answer is it fixes itself in 2018
TooSucio4u said
Dec 6, 2017
monkeybones wrote:
They were told that they can't be held at 3rd step for 4 years, and would have to go to top pay after the year... and not to tell the other Sgt's. It has all been discussed in this thread and others and the SBA isn't doing anything their answer is it fixes itself in 2018
Actually...... they told us they dont know for sure but they dont believe theyll keep them at the same step for 3 years straight. And they did say not to mention it to other sergeants. The president of the SBA never confirmed they were going to top pay next year.
AllDayRays said
Dec 6, 2017
TooSucio4u wrote:
monkeybones wrote:
They were told that they can't be held at 3rd step for 4 years, and would have to go to top pay after the year... and not to tell the other Sgt's. It has all been discussed in this thread and others and the SBA isn't doing anything their answer is it fixes itself in 2018
Actually...... they told us they dont know for sure but they dont believe theyll keep them at the same step for 3 years straight. And they did say not to mention it to other sergeants. The president of the SBA never confirmed they were going to top pay next year.
Thats what I was told.
monkeybones said
Dec 7, 2017
If you do we will then have a concrete case and hopefully all get lots of back pay but whatever. Im just glad i did well enough on test not to even care anymore.
CappedOut said
Dec 9, 2017
Plus top pay cops are making more than those sergeants affected. If you don't believe me grab a random top pay stub from the box and compare it against yours. Their base is slightly below ours, but adding the NCO differential directly below it puts them ahead of us.
So we got promoted two years ago, and are still making less than a top pay cop.
If we have no recourse, then it is whatever it is. But that's pretty messed up.
-- Edited by CappedOut on Saturday 9th of December 2017 02:18:34 AM
Oooh-yeah said
Dec 9, 2017
Quit crying. This job isnt on the level and the sh**ty doesnt care about you! If you want something to change then gather ppl and sue the damn job and Sh**ty.
fodx said
Dec 9, 2017
Why is this topic on a Lts exam thread???? Who the hell cares about Sgts salaries right now ?!
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:12 PM
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:30 PM
redcons2 said
Dec 9, 2017
fodx wrote:
Why is this topic on a Lts exam thread???? Who the hell cares about Sgts salaries right now ?!
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:12 PM
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:30 PM
Are you a representative from CNN Late Edition? This post is from July.
Oooh-yeah said
Dec 10, 2017
I get ppl are upset and I get it. Things clearly arent fair but complaining here wont fix it so take action or move on. This is a Lts exam forum!
-- Edited by Oooh-yeah on Sunday 10th of December 2017 05:57:23 AM
Brian Earl Spilner said
Feb 27, 2018
Guys lets start this lawsuit !!!!!
tdcarlin1 said
Feb 27, 2018
when did the PBA contract take effect? first groups of sergeants that went to the 2nd to last pay step should be hitting their one year mark soon.
PD2FD said
Feb 27, 2018
tdcarlin1 wrote:
when did the PBA contract take effect? first groups of sergeants that went to the 2nd to last pay step should be hitting their one year mark soon.
That first group should be hitting their one year mark in April. We'll find out soon if they go to top pay.
jovin said
Feb 27, 2018
This is Rising Star Promotions.. Not the rant... nobody wants to hear a bunch of rookie Sgt"s cryin.
Risingstarrecid said
Feb 27, 2018
jovin wrote:
This is Rising Star Promotions.. Not the rant... nobody wants to hear a bunch of rookie Sgt"s cryin.
Weird that you think we want to hear from you. A guy who has been stuck at the Sgt. Rank because he couldnt pass previous Lt exams
fodx said
Feb 27, 2018
Seriously though why is this post on the Lieutenants section?
PD2FD said
Feb 27, 2018
fodx wrote:
Seriously though why is this post on the Lieutenants section?
Who knows !!! Sergeants should be out there enjoying their chart days
crappants said
Mar 3, 2018
When list coming?
Brian Earl Spilner said
Mar 3, 2018
Hearing September
crappants said
Mar 3, 2018
Yikes
Risingstarrecid said
Apr 26, 2018
Do we know if anybody got top yet after a year in rank?
Theforceisstrongwiththisone said
Apr 26, 2018
Risingstarrecid wrote:
Do we know if anybody got top yet after a year in rank?
Who cares...we want the list
TransitJoe said
Apr 26, 2018
They got promoted may 16. We wont know until first check in june.
All this happened retro activity anyway any no body even realized it. I was promoted on Sept 2011, so I hit top pay on Sept 2015. They Settled the contract and we were paid in June 2015. The PBA contract ran from July 2012' to July 2016'. During those years retroactive i lost money. From July 2012' to July 2016' a top pay cop was making more than a starting Sgt. However it was retroactive so no one real noticed it.
2012-2016 a top pay cop was making %1 more than a starting SGT. So contractually I/We were making less than a top pay for those years, but nobody noticed it because it was retroactive
also the SBA took 0% upfront from March 2011 to' March 2012' .. The PBA did not take a 0%. They took %1 upfront. so that was about a $1,000 bucks lost.
-- Edited by Sullyten on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 05:27:15 PM
-- Edited by Sullyten on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 05:29:21 PM
I also had the misunderstanding that the SBA was a "better" union than the others but when they came into BMOC and played that 'Don't let the other Sgt's know that you are getting pay more' I learned that they are like the other unions. Full of weasels, sleezy cheap politicians.
-- Edited by TooSucio4u on Wednesday 6th of September 2017 06:46:27 PM
Sorry to see you guys feelings hurt... Welcome to the NYPD... ... Get over it.... Not trying to troll... But we all went through this at some point or the other.... SMH All unions sell out the newborn and or the young....
Wasn't HeatMiser supposed to start a lawsuit on 8/24? I thought HeatMiser was for real...
No that wasn't me , it was my brother Heatmiser. He said he was going to start a lawsuit but he realized it would be a waste of time so he decided not to.
I'm just trying to think... if there's a fight that can be won, why wouldn't they?
Or is the issue that they didn't do as well as the PBA at the table, they got better raises, and now we're just stuck with no recourse?
Did anyone actually talk to the SBA and see what they had to say?
Any sergeant promoted before the PBA contract was settled is making less money than the sergeants promoted after them.
top of list sgts prior to PBA contract = regular steps to top pay 4 years
we got screwed and they got lucky, but nothing new with the city.
Is this confirmed they go to top pay after a year?
Actually...... they told us they dont know for sure but they dont believe theyll keep them at the same step for 3 years straight. And they did say not to mention it to other sergeants. The president of the SBA never confirmed they were going to top pay next year.
Thats what I was told.
Plus top pay cops are making more than those sergeants affected. If you don't believe me grab a random top pay stub from the box and compare it against yours. Their base is slightly below ours, but adding the NCO differential directly below it puts them ahead of us.
So we got promoted two years ago, and are still making less than a top pay cop.
If we have no recourse, then it is whatever it is. But that's pretty messed up.
-- Edited by CappedOut on Saturday 9th of December 2017 02:18:34 AM
Why is this topic on a Lts exam thread???? Who the hell cares about Sgts salaries right now ?!
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:12 PM
-- Edited by fodx on Saturday 9th of December 2017 04:06:30 PM
Are you a representative from CNN Late Edition? This post is from July.
I get ppl are upset and I get it. Things clearly arent fair but complaining here wont fix it so take action or move on. This is a Lts exam forum!
-- Edited by Oooh-yeah on Sunday 10th of December 2017 05:57:23 AM
That first group should be hitting their one year mark in April. We'll find out soon if they go to top pay.
This is Rising Star Promotions.. Not the rant... nobody wants to hear a bunch of rookie Sgt"s cryin.
Weird that you think we want to hear from you. A guy who has been stuck at the Sgt. Rank because he couldnt pass previous Lt exams
Who knows !!! Sergeants should be out there enjoying their chart days
Yikes
Who cares...we want the list