With the NCO program rolling out they will need less supervisors.
infinity said
Oct 17, 2015
Meaning when they cut all the units they just found 4-5 sgts in every Pct to put on patrol and if there's impact add another 5-6
Sarge said
Oct 19, 2015
who's gonna supervise the nco's?
BxPogiBoy said
Oct 19, 2015
Yes, I agree if all the boroughs convert to the new NCO program, then the department as a whole would not need that much sergeants.
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 19, 2015
Even with the NCO program you're just gonna see more bosses per squad. It doesn't mean there will be less. They're running 2-3 bosses and 18-24 cops per squad under the NCO program, at least in the 113 they are. You're just moving personnel around, not eliminating them.
BxPogiBoy said
Oct 19, 2015
Well the SNEU SGT, Schools Sgt, and the multiple Conditions Sgts that some precincts have will all get bounced to patrol. Which means the needs for sergeants in NCO oriented precincts will decline.
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 19, 2015
Yea but the cops in those details also go back to patrol meaning the need for extra supervision is still there to some extent.
IShredMajors said
Oct 19, 2015
The amount of sergeants needed by the department is not fixed like the other supervisory ranks. For LT and Capt, the job has specific levels of staffing to meet. I believe for sergeants its a ratio based on the number of cops. Reassigning cops to different squads shouldn't change the required amount of sergeants. That's at least how I understand it.
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 19, 2015
IShredMajors wrote:
The amount of sergeants needed by the department is not fixed like the other supervisory ranks. For LT and Capt, the job has specific levels of staffing to meet. I believe for sergeants its a ratio based on the number of cops. Reassigning cops to different squads shouldn't change the required amount of sergeants. That's at least how I understand it.
This is correct. In fact with an extra 1300 cops we should see about a 125 SGT increase in the overall SGT headcount.
Misscleo said
Oct 19, 2015
Soccer, how is being a Sgt in the 113? Any OT?
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 19, 2015
Not a SGT there (or anywhere yet) but I know one there and there's tons of OT there. He personally thinks the NCO program is great, he puts out anywhere from 11-12 cars a night, always has a minimum of 2 SGTS on patrol. Usually 4 bosses in during his tour so they're able to whack it up and days off haven't been a problem.
Jibberjab said
Oct 20, 2015
Would love to see what brat has been hearing
ManHands said
Oct 24, 2015
Nov class still hasn't been confirmed. Brat?
sgt2be said
Oct 24, 2015
I think you might want to call a special category missing for brat..but first notify duty captain :)...I'm hearing Nov class is a go w 40ish as a number. Does that complete list?
Wheresthelist said
Oct 24, 2015
Yes it completes the list and yes there is a nov class
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 24, 2015
SGT2BE is the back-up "brat" if you will. His information has been consistently reliable. Wheresthelist is also good. Thanks for the info guys.
sgt2be said
Oct 24, 2015
There is no replacement for the brat....but she is very busy. I was told Nov class is a go w 40s being the number. Makes sense since it finishes list
ondeeair2321 said
Oct 24, 2015
Sgt2be is a complete troll. Believe if u will guy knows nothing but pulling rabbits out of hats
sgt2be said
Oct 24, 2015
For my next trick....I'll predict the lts tvb has convluded...wait no....let me try again...it will conclude....no wait it will conclude in one week....ta dahhhh thank you everyone :)
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 24, 2015
Ondeeair is like a Saturday morning cartoon; amusing, but never to be taken seriously. That cartoon character was the one who predicted the 11 SGT list would die at 1250. The fail is strong with him.
Noll0317 said
Oct 24, 2015
35 for november 1st
WhatsTheJobComin2 said
Oct 24, 2015
Noll0317 wrote:
35 for november 1st
The 1st is a Sunday
PD2FD said
Oct 24, 2015
WhatsTheJobComin2 wrote:
Noll0317 wrote:
35 for november 1st
The 1st is a Sunday
Trolling hard bro, it's not even funny
soccerpsyco32 said
Oct 24, 2015
WhatsTheJobComin2 wrote:
Noll0317 wrote:
35 for november 1st
The 1st is a Sunday
Strong fail.
Wheresthelist said
Oct 24, 2015
Lets all relax its going in on nov 2
wisecop said
Oct 25, 2015
Noll0317 wrote:
35 for november 1st
LOL......Wow! I can't believe these guys are sergeants
Noll0317 said
Oct 25, 2015
not trollin. was told 35 for start of november just never looked to see what day that actually was. I been waiting as long as everyone else so i got no reason to put up bs posts.
Oooh-yeah said
Oct 25, 2015
I hope you're right and I want to believe you! But I think we've all reached that point where it's only true If it comes down the finest... That's why everyone is questioning it, don't take it personal. Thank you for the info though brother
-- Edited by Oooh-yeah on Sunday 25th of October 2015 06:15:40 AM
scheduleB_magnet said
Oct 25, 2015
sgt2be wrote:
For my next trick....I'll predict the lts tvb has convluded...wait no....let me try again...it will conclude....no wait it will conclude in one week....ta dahhhh thank you everyone :)
You forgot to say "fact." Because whatever you say before or after makes it automatically true.
PD2FD said
Oct 26, 2015
Noll0317 wrote:
not trollin. was told 35 for start of november just never looked to see what day that actually was. I been waiting as long as everyone else so i got no reason to put up bs posts.
Sorry man, I guess a lot of us are just upset because of the recent events and the slow promotions
Johnfatty said
Oct 27, 2015
November class confirmed... Friend of mine who works at the academy that teaches PETS was given a notification to teach the sergeant class Nov 18-20... Congratulations everyone
6WIRE said
Oct 27, 2015
So when would the finest come down?
Leftbehind802 said
Oct 27, 2015
Guess we will find out in the next few days...
Wheresthelist said
Oct 27, 2015
Typically tomorrow around 1800ish but with the funeral tomorrow i really couldnt guess when the finest is coming down
Wheresthelist said
Oct 27, 2015
Promotion orders for friday came down today so maybe BMOC orders will also
6WIRE said
Oct 27, 2015
I know the last couple of classes it came down on a thurs
wisecop said
Oct 27, 2015
Historically SGT BMOC orders seem to drop on Wednesdays, but it's fair to say that if there was one scheduled it made sense to put them out today.
wisecop said
Oct 27, 2015
But we all know how well how the dept is
Hitpuree said
Oct 29, 2015
Whats the word??? Anyone hear anything??? Finest would be today if its a go
Wheresthelist said
Oct 29, 2015
There is a nov class going in on nov 2
Hitpuree said
Oct 29, 2015
We will see the hours are counting down... If the FINEST doesnt squirt out by say 1800... Id say no then
Lu515 said
Oct 29, 2015
The end of the 20111 list it's going in on Monday the 2nd...
Zeus said
Oct 29, 2015
Where's the finest? Nothing is for sure til the finest comes down!!
Hitpuree said
Oct 29, 2015
So its a class of 23??? Most of the passovers are too far gone to be made
Wheresthelist said
Oct 29, 2015
No its aprox 23 PLUS the passovers that were made last month and the 6 more passovers that are being made tomorrow. So roughly the class will be about 35 people
Hitpuree said
Oct 29, 2015
I know someone that made up front last class but wont be back to work for months ( maternity leave) how does that work?
Wheresthelist said
Oct 29, 2015
She will goto the next BMOC upon her return to work
who's gonna supervise the nco's?
Yes, I agree if all the boroughs convert to the new NCO program, then the department as a whole would not need that much sergeants.
Well the SNEU SGT, Schools Sgt, and the multiple Conditions Sgts that some precincts have will all get bounced to patrol. Which means the needs for sergeants in NCO oriented precincts will decline.
The amount of sergeants needed by the department is not fixed like the other supervisory ranks. For LT and Capt, the job has specific levels of staffing to meet. I believe for sergeants its a ratio based on the number of cops. Reassigning cops to different squads shouldn't change the required amount of sergeants. That's at least how I understand it.
This is correct. In fact with an extra 1300 cops we should see about a 125 SGT increase in the overall SGT headcount.
Soccer, how is being a Sgt in the 113? Any OT?
The 1st is a Sunday
Trolling hard bro, it's not even funny
Strong fail.
LOL......Wow! I can't believe these guys are sergeants
I hope you're right and I want to believe you! But I think we've all reached that point where it's only true If it comes down the finest... That's why everyone is questioning it, don't take it personal. Thank you for the info though brother
-- Edited by Oooh-yeah on Sunday 25th of October 2015 06:15:40 AM
You forgot to say "fact." Because whatever you say before or after makes it automatically true.
Sorry man, I guess a lot of us are just upset because of the recent events and the slow promotions
November class confirmed... Friend of mine who works at the academy that teaches PETS was given a notification to teach the sergeant class Nov 18-20... Congratulations everyone
The end of the 20111 list it's going in on Monday the 2nd...
By the finest machine....